12 Points on the Horizon...
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funkyrobot said:
Unfortunately, it's people like you who ruin it for everyone else.
People like you play into the hands of the system. You fuel the fires started by groups like Brake. Another person in court through totting up means more for the 'safety' partnerships to get their teeth into. They see people like you, think what they are doing isn't enough and press on with further changes.
The fact that you simply do not understand how daft it is to get anywhere near a totting up ban is a worry. You can say all you like about people preaching on here. However, as long as there are people like you around, the system will keep winning and motoring will become more and more restrictive.
Edited to add - it's as if you are proud of this situation. I hope the law enforcers don't see just how much you apparently don't care.
Mate, your cardigan needs darning, give your nurse a shout, see if she has a needle and thread eh ?People like you play into the hands of the system. You fuel the fires started by groups like Brake. Another person in court through totting up means more for the 'safety' partnerships to get their teeth into. They see people like you, think what they are doing isn't enough and press on with further changes.
The fact that you simply do not understand how daft it is to get anywhere near a totting up ban is a worry. You can say all you like about people preaching on here. However, as long as there are people like you around, the system will keep winning and motoring will become more and more restrictive.
Edited to add - it's as if you are proud of this situation. I hope the law enforcers don't see just how much you apparently don't care.
Edited by funkyrobot on Monday 25th April 22:30
funkyrobot said:
Unfortunately, it's people like you who ruin it for everyone else.
People like you play into the hands of the system. You fuel the fires started by groups like Brake. Another person in court through totting up means more for the 'safety' partnerships to get their teeth into. They see people like you, think what they are doing isn't enough and press on with further changes.
The fact that you simply do not understand how daft it is to get anywhere near a totting up ban is a worry. You can say all you like about people preaching on here. However, as long as there are people like you around, the system will keep winning and motoring will become more and more restrictive.
Edited to add - it's as if you are proud of this situation. I hope the law enforcers don't see just how much you apparently don't care.
People like you play into the hands of the system. You fuel the fires started by groups like Brake. Another person in court through totting up means more for the 'safety' partnerships to get their teeth into. They see people like you, think what they are doing isn't enough and press on with further changes.
The fact that you simply do not understand how daft it is to get anywhere near a totting up ban is a worry. You can say all you like about people preaching on here. However, as long as there are people like you around, the system will keep winning and motoring will become more and more restrictive.
Edited to add - it's as if you are proud of this situation. I hope the law enforcers don't see just how much you apparently don't care.
Potatoes said:
Boom! Headshot.
funkyrobot said:
Unfortunately, it's people like you who ruin it for everyone else.
People like you play into the hands of the system. You fuel the fires started by groups like Brake. Another person in court through totting up means more for the 'safety' partnerships to get their teeth into. They see people like you, think what they are doing isn't enough and press on with further changes.
The fact that you simply do not understand how daft it is to get anywhere near a totting up ban is a worry. You can say all you like about people preaching on here. However, as long as there are people like you around, the system will keep winning and motoring will become more and more restrictive.
Edited to add - it's as if you are proud of this situation. I hope the law enforcers don't see just how much you apparently don't care.
You're having a laugh!People like you play into the hands of the system. You fuel the fires started by groups like Brake. Another person in court through totting up means more for the 'safety' partnerships to get their teeth into. They see people like you, think what they are doing isn't enough and press on with further changes.
The fact that you simply do not understand how daft it is to get anywhere near a totting up ban is a worry. You can say all you like about people preaching on here. However, as long as there are people like you around, the system will keep winning and motoring will become more and more restrictive.
Edited to add - it's as if you are proud of this situation. I hope the law enforcers don't see just how much you apparently don't care.
Edited by funkyrobot on Monday 25th April 22:30
FYI, the speed camera industry pre-dates the likes of Brake.
And it's those like you, who give tacit approval to that sort of thing, who spoil it for everyone else.
A ban might not be a bad thing, your points tally go back to zero after a 6 month totting ban don't they? If they let you keep your licence it will most likely come with a significant fine & your points stay for the duration. If you got caught again and lets be honest 12 points in under 18 months suggests you will, then you will be in the same position again.
Pete317 said:
You're twisting things.
Nobody mentioned anything about 'staring at the speedo, or anything like it.
Getting caught for straying over the limit has little or nothing in common with not paying proper attention to road/traffic conditions and real/potential hazards.
Besides, only getting caught a handful of times despite doing 70K a year is arguably doing quite well in this day and age.
Oh, and in case you ask, my licence is clean.
Then don't post the invisible gorilla video. The whole purpose of that is to show how focussing 100% on one thing can result in you missing other things. Nobody mentioned anything about 'staring at the speedo, or anything like it.
Getting caught for straying over the limit has little or nothing in common with not paying proper attention to road/traffic conditions and real/potential hazards.
Besides, only getting caught a handful of times despite doing 70K a year is arguably doing quite well in this day and age.
Oh, and in case you ask, my licence is clean.
Edited by Pete317 on Monday 25th April 20:43
We all speed. Getting caught once, shame on them, twice shame on you, three times double shame on you, four times and you have to start questioning yourself a lot.
Pete317 said:
Besides, only getting caught a handful of times despite doing 70K a year is arguably doing quite well in this day and age.
I'd certainly agree it is arguable!! snorky782 said:
We all speed. Getting caught once, shame on them, twice shame on you, three times double shame on you, four times and you have to start questioning yourself a lot.
Especially in a short space of time.Anyhow roofer wasn't asking us to judge him, so we should start another thread for his trial by the moral majority.
Pete317 said:
You're having a laugh!
FYI, the speed camera industry pre-dates the likes of Brake.
And it's those like you, who give tacit approval to that sort of thing, who spoil it for everyone else.
I hope, for your sake, that nobody is playing basketball in the road when you are driving by.FYI, the speed camera industry pre-dates the likes of Brake.
And it's those like you, who give tacit approval to that sort of thing, who spoil it for everyone else.
Pete317 said:
funkyrobot said:
Unfortunately, it's people like you who ruin it for everyone else.
People like you play into the hands of the system. You fuel the fires started by groups like Brake. Another person in court through totting up means more for the 'safety' partnerships to get their teeth into. They see people like you, think what they are doing isn't enough and press on with further changes.
The fact that you simply do not understand how daft it is to get anywhere near a totting up ban is a worry. You can say all you like about people preaching on here. However, as long as there are people like you around, the system will keep winning and motoring will become more and more restrictive.
Edited to add - it's as if you are proud of this situation. I hope the law enforcers don't see just how much you apparently don't care.
You're having a laugh!People like you play into the hands of the system. You fuel the fires started by groups like Brake. Another person in court through totting up means more for the 'safety' partnerships to get their teeth into. They see people like you, think what they are doing isn't enough and press on with further changes.
The fact that you simply do not understand how daft it is to get anywhere near a totting up ban is a worry. You can say all you like about people preaching on here. However, as long as there are people like you around, the system will keep winning and motoring will become more and more restrictive.
Edited to add - it's as if you are proud of this situation. I hope the law enforcers don't see just how much you apparently don't care.
Edited by funkyrobot on Monday 25th April 22:30
FYI, the speed camera industry pre-dates the likes of Brake.
And it's those like you, who give tacit approval to that sort of thing, who spoil it for everyone else.
I wonder, if there was a campaign of national obedience, if every motorist across the country got on-board with a campaign to stop speeding completely from a given date, for say six months. Who would suffer most?
I think it could bring the govt down. For a start, fuel consumption figures would go thru the roof, tax revenue from fuel would drop like a stone, and the petrochemical industry and the govt would be in meltdown. And suddenly zero revenue for cameras. That would cause a major headache. Less people in court, loads of civil servants sitting around doing nothing.
Insurance claims would certainly drop and accidents that still happened would reduce in cost, more ncb earned, lower premiums, less IPT for the govt.
If such a campaign could get up and running (which it never will because idiots like you would think they were being beaten and not realise they were actually winning), 6 months of sticking rigidly to the limits would mean a small amount of misery for the motorist, but a catastrophe for the govt.
So maybe think again about who is playing into whose hands when people constantly get caught by cameras.
Pete317 said:
funkyrobot said:
Unfortunately, it's people like you who ruin it for everyone else.
People like you play into the hands of the system. You fuel the fires started by groups like Brake. Another person in court through totting up means more for the 'safety' partnerships to get their teeth into. They see people like you, think what they are doing isn't enough and press on with further changes.
The fact that you simply do not understand how daft it is to get anywhere near a totting up ban is a worry. You can say all you like about people preaching on here. However, as long as there are people like you around, the system will keep winning and motoring will become more and more restrictive.
Edited to add - it's as if you are proud of this situation. I hope the law enforcers don't see just how much you apparently don't care.
You're having a laugh!People like you play into the hands of the system. You fuel the fires started by groups like Brake. Another person in court through totting up means more for the 'safety' partnerships to get their teeth into. They see people like you, think what they are doing isn't enough and press on with further changes.
The fact that you simply do not understand how daft it is to get anywhere near a totting up ban is a worry. You can say all you like about people preaching on here. However, as long as there are people like you around, the system will keep winning and motoring will become more and more restrictive.
Edited to add - it's as if you are proud of this situation. I hope the law enforcers don't see just how much you apparently don't care.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 25th April 22:30
FYI, the speed camera industry pre-dates the likes of Brake.
And it's those like you, who give tacit approval to that sort of thing, who spoil it for everyone else.
ks. People like the OP are why the speed camera industry exists. End of story. Frankly you have to be pretty dumb, or in a permanent fog to get caught under totting up, and a ban is exactly what he deserves.
Nothing to do with the morals of driving above the limit or not, simply a matter of removing from the roads those who clearly have no idea what's happening around them.
REALIST123 said:
bks. People like the OP are why the speed camera industry exists. End of story.
Frankly you have to be pretty dumb, or in a permanent fog to get caught under totting up, and a ban is exactly what he deserves.
Nothing to do with the morals of driving above the limit or not, simply a matter of removing from the roads those who clearly have no idea what's happening around them.
Harsh, but fair.ks. People like the OP are why the speed camera industry exists. End of story. Frankly you have to be pretty dumb, or in a permanent fog to get caught under totting up, and a ban is exactly what he deserves.
Nothing to do with the morals of driving above the limit or not, simply a matter of removing from the roads those who clearly have no idea what's happening around them.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I wonder, if there was a campaign of national obedience, if every motorist across the country got on-board with a campaign to stop speeding completely from a given date, for say six months. Who would suffer most?
I think it could bring the govt down. For a start, fuel consumption figures would go thru the roof, tax revenue from fuel would drop like a stone, and the petrochemical industry and the govt would be in meltdown. And suddenly zero revenue for cameras. That would cause a major headache. Less people in court, loads of civil servants sitting around doing nothing.
Insurance claims would certainly drop and accidents that still happened would reduce in cost, more ncb earned, lower premiums, less IPT for the govt.
If such a campaign could get up and running (which it never will because idiots like you would think they were being beaten and not realise they were actually winning), 6 months of sticking rigidly to the limits would mean a small amount of misery for the motorist, but a catastrophe for the govt.
I think it could bring the govt down. For a start, fuel consumption figures would go thru the roof, tax revenue from fuel would drop like a stone, and the petrochemical industry and the govt would be in meltdown. And suddenly zero revenue for cameras. That would cause a major headache. Less people in court, loads of civil servants sitting around doing nothing.
Insurance claims would certainly drop and accidents that still happened would reduce in cost, more ncb earned, lower premiums, less IPT for the govt.
If such a campaign could get up and running (which it never will because idiots like you would think they were being beaten and not realise they were actually winning), 6 months of sticking rigidly to the limits would mean a small amount of misery for the motorist, but a catastrophe for the govt.
no have another one that has got to be one of the funniest things I've read in ages...even beating some of Welshbeef's best contributionsPete317 said:
But are you sure that while you're paying so much attention to the speed limits that you're not missing unexpected hazards? (or vice-versa)
See: http://www.livescience.com/6727-invisible-gorilla-...
Don't be silly.See: http://www.livescience.com/6727-invisible-gorilla-...
Edited by Pete317 on Sunday 24th April 22:04
GT03ROB said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I wonder, if there was a campaign of national obedience, if every motorist across the country got on-board with a campaign to stop speeding completely from a given date, for say six months. Who would suffer most?
I think it could bring the govt down. For a start, fuel consumption figures would go thru the roof, tax revenue from fuel would drop like a stone, and the petrochemical industry and the govt would be in meltdown. And suddenly zero revenue for cameras. That would cause a major headache. Less people in court, loads of civil servants sitting around doing nothing.
Insurance claims would certainly drop and accidents that still happened would reduce in cost, more ncb earned, lower premiums, less IPT for the govt.
If such a campaign could get up and running (which it never will because idiots like you would think they were being beaten and not realise they were actually winning), 6 months of sticking rigidly to the limits would mean a small amount of misery for the motorist, but a catastrophe for the govt.
I think it could bring the govt down. For a start, fuel consumption figures would go thru the roof, tax revenue from fuel would drop like a stone, and the petrochemical industry and the govt would be in meltdown. And suddenly zero revenue for cameras. That would cause a major headache. Less people in court, loads of civil servants sitting around doing nothing.
Insurance claims would certainly drop and accidents that still happened would reduce in cost, more ncb earned, lower premiums, less IPT for the govt.
If such a campaign could get up and running (which it never will because idiots like you would think they were being beaten and not realise they were actually winning), 6 months of sticking rigidly to the limits would mean a small amount of misery for the motorist, but a catastrophe for the govt.
no have another one that has got to be one of the funniest things I've read in ages...even beating some of Welshbeef's best contributionsIronically, the only way to actually beat the speed camera partnerships is to remain at or below the speed limits.
funkyrobot said:
GT03ROB said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I wonder, if there was a campaign of national obedience, if every motorist across the country got on-board with a campaign to stop speeding completely from a given date, for say six months. Who would suffer most?
I think it could bring the govt down. For a start, fuel consumption figures would go thru the roof, tax revenue from fuel would drop like a stone, and the petrochemical industry and the govt would be in meltdown. And suddenly zero revenue for cameras. That would cause a major headache. Less people in court, loads of civil servants sitting around doing nothing.
Insurance claims would certainly drop and accidents that still happened would reduce in cost, more ncb earned, lower premiums, less IPT for the govt.
If such a campaign could get up and running (which it never will because idiots like you would think they were being beaten and not realise they were actually winning), 6 months of sticking rigidly to the limits would mean a small amount of misery for the motorist, but a catastrophe for the govt.
I think it could bring the govt down. For a start, fuel consumption figures would go thru the roof, tax revenue from fuel would drop like a stone, and the petrochemical industry and the govt would be in meltdown. And suddenly zero revenue for cameras. That would cause a major headache. Less people in court, loads of civil servants sitting around doing nothing.
Insurance claims would certainly drop and accidents that still happened would reduce in cost, more ncb earned, lower premiums, less IPT for the govt.
If such a campaign could get up and running (which it never will because idiots like you would think they were being beaten and not realise they were actually winning), 6 months of sticking rigidly to the limits would mean a small amount of misery for the motorist, but a catastrophe for the govt.
no have another one that has got to be one of the funniest things I've read in ages...even beating some of Welshbeef's best contributionsIronically, the only way to actually beat the speed camera partnerships is to remain at or below the speed limits.
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