Towing a drink driver

[Josho]

Forgetting the moral high ground for a second, last night my brother in law and his mate we're out driving in said mates wife's car.

They had fit brake pads to it then gone to the pub then came back and misjudged a bend in a lane and put it on it's roof.

I'm not 100% sure if he was over or not but after rushing out there, pushing it back over and giving it a jump start it started but wouldn't drive, it's busted a CV joint. How I'm not sure as it all seemed to be pretty straight bar the bodywork.

So I swiftly towed it up the road and got it to his house.

They were scared the AA would call the police and weren't sure if he was over or not.

My question is would I have got nicked for towing him should we have been pulled over?

[hornetrider]

Looking forward to this one.

[s p a c e m a n]

If they'd drunk enough to put it on its roof then I wouldn't be towing them just for the probability of them stuffing it into the back of my car, regardless of the chance of a nicking

[TooMany2cvs]

Josho said:

Forgetting the moral high ground for a second

Might be hard, but...

Josho said:

My question is would I have got nicked for towing him should we have been pulled over?

Yes.

BTW, even ignoring the beers, is he somebody that often rolls cars that he's just changed the brake pads on?

[kambites]

As I understand the law, you would not be committing on offence; he would. If the car you were towing isn't road-legal you could get into trouble, but I don't think the driver is your responsibility.

I might be wrong, though.

[Josho]

Very quiet road and said driver didn't seem too bad to me, not even sure if he was over or not but just wondered on the legalities rather than the morals.

Curious that's all!

Fortunately it seems a lesson learned, can't help but think brother in law was pressuring his mate but said mate should have stuck to Coke.

You'd think people would be grown up enough by 28.

[TooMany2cvs]

kambites said:

As I understand the law, you would not be committing on offence; he would.

Causing or permitting him to be driving or attempting to drive while over the limit. DR14. Same penalty range as his DR10.

[kambites]

TooMany2cvs said:

kambites said:

As I understand the law, you would not be committing on offence; he would.

Causing or permitting him to be driving or attempting to drive while over the limit. DR14. Same penalty range as his DR10.

Ah OK. I never realised that was an offence.

I suppose it's one that doesn't come up very often.

[Josho]

TooMany2cvs said:

kambites said:

As I understand the law, you would not be committing on offence; he would.

Causing or permitting him to be driving or attempting to drive while over the limit. DR14. Same penalty range as his DR10.

Ah, definitely something to consider for the future.

/curiosity

[RS Grant]

Josho said:

...but said mate should have stuck to Coke.

Cheers,
Grant

[V8LM]

Josho said:

Forgetting the moral high ground for a second, last night my brother in law and his mate we're out driving in said mates wife's car.

They had fit brake pads to it then gone to the pub then came back and misjudged a bend in a lane and put it on it's roof.

I'm not 100% sure if he was over or not but after rushing out there, pushing it back over and giving it a jump start it started but wouldn't drive, it's busted a CV joint. How I'm not sure as it all seemed to be pretty straight bar the bodywork.

So I swiftly towed it up the road and got it to his house.

They were scared the AA would call the police and weren't sure if he was over or not.

My question is would I have got nicked for towing him should we have been pulled over?

Towed with a rope? Busted CV joint means the car is not roadworthy therefore shouldn't be tow with a rope. The person in the towed car is in charge of it so they would be prosecuted if over the limit.

I think.

[TooMany2cvs]

kambites said:

TooMany2cvs said:

kambites said:

As I understand the law, you would not be committing on offence; he would.

Causing or permitting him to be driving or attempting to drive while over the limit. DR14. Same penalty range as his DR10.

Ah OK. I never realised that was an offence.

I suppose it's one that doesn't come up very often.

Every licence offence code's got a +2 (Aiding, abetting, counselling, procuring), a +4 (causing, permitting) and a +6 (inciting) equivalent.
https://www.gov.uk/penalty-points-endorsements/end...

[kambites]

I knew of some individual ones but I'd never made the connection with regards to the overall numbering scheme.

[kmpowell]

hornetrider said:

Looking forward to this one.

[The Mad Monk]

Josho said:

Forgetting the moral high ground for a second, last night my brother in law and his mate we're out driving in said mates wife's car.

They had fit brake pads to it then gone to the pub then came back and misjudged a bend in a lane and put it on it's roof.

I'm not 100% sure if he was over or not but after rushing out there, pushing it back over and giving it a jump start it started but wouldn't drive, it's busted a CV joint. How I'm not sure as it all seemed to be pretty straight bar the bodywork.

So I swiftly towed it up the road and got it to his house.

They were scared the AA would call the police and weren't sure if he was over or not.

My question is would I have got nicked for towing him should we have been pulled over?

Don't worry about it.

You would be far better off taking yourself down to the local Adult Education Centre and getting some English lessons, because you seem to be struggling at the moment.

I hope this helps.

[berlintaxi]

No issue, he's an above average driver...............but obviously hangs around with below average dicks.

[Axionknight]

Rolled a car and left the scene eh? What are the rules on leaving the scene of such a severe accident even if another vehicle isn't involved?

Sounds like your associates are both idiots to me.

[INWB]

Josho said:

You'd think people would be grown up enough by 28.

Morons don't grow up. They don't have the intellectual capacity to. Let's hope he doesn't breed.

[oakdale]

I'll bet his mates wife was pleased with the job.

[kambites]

Axionknight said:

Rolled a car and left the scene eh? What are the rules on leaving the scene of such a severe accident even if another vehicle isn't involved?

Is there any requirement to report an accident if no third-party damage was caused and the car is immediately removed from the scene?