Parking Eye- Appeal on hold

[Gallen]

As I said up there, if your vehicle is broken down then that's it.

I've been unlucky enough to have it happen to me twice. On both accounts it was cancelled there and then.

- first time with invoice for faulty key and repair
- second time with invoice from recovery

G.

[surveyor_101]

Gallen said:

As I said up there, if your vehicle is broken down then that's it.

I've been unlucky enough to have it happen to me twice. On both accounts it was cancelled there and then.

- first time with invoice for faulty key and repair
- second time with invoice from recovery

G.

van didn't breakdown, no invoices to prove that, however van didn't park. I doubt parking eye would cancel it even if there was evidence of a breakdown. They like going legal as with the beavis case.

Parking Eye are notorious for not accepting appeals, they have stated why they denied ours or responded to my letter.

I had a ticket a couple of months ago from horizon and my first letter (similar to the one sent on this one) got it canceled in 10 days.

[bad company]

surveyor_101 said:

Because there are many holes in their case and its costs them £27plus vat and any admin time they need to mount their case. Also if they do sue it would be asked why we didn't use the code they provided.

Also if you do some research Parking Eye often do sue and other than beavis they lose.

If everyone appealed their tickets and didn't pay their business model would fail in months.

I agree with what you say but it would cost them more than £27 to take you to the County Court. Having said that as a business you would not be able to have the case transferred to your local Court.

[surveyor_101]

bad company said:

I agree with what you say but it would cost them more than £27 to take you to the County Court. Having said that as a business you would not be able to have the case transferred to your local Court.

Don't think I can convince my the directors to go to county court over £100 parking fine.

[g3org3y]

Best of luck with your POPLA appeal. Keep us updated.

[Chrisgr31]

surveyor_101 said:

If everyone appealed their tickets and didn't pay their business model would fail in months.

and if people didnt abuse privately owned car parks then their business model would fail

[blueg33]

The answer is barriers on car parks. Not ANPR. Something that only lets you in if there is a space, no ambiguity, you have entered and you pay to leave. Small investment for the land owner

[smithyithy]

blueg33 said:

The answer is barriers on car parks. Not ANPR. Something that only lets you in if there is a space, no ambiguity, you have entered and you pay to leave. Small investment for the land owner

I would agree. My mum has worked in a large store on a town centre retail park for years. It's always busy, at Christmas time every pitch is full.

They used to have a barrier system with 2 lanes in / 2 lanes out off a roundabout. It worked fine. It was around £1.20/hour to park, ticket machines all the way around the U-shaped footpath around the car park / front of the shops.

For reasons unknown to us, they (presumably a new car park managing company) ripped the barriers out and installed ANPR, with useless payment machines in the far corners of the car park, between the cars, rather than on the footpath area.

So now, entry is technically free, you then have to track down a machine and enter your car reg, to receive a ticket. Then when you return, insert the ticket and pay the specified amount.

It's just too ambiguous, they've made it much easier for people to mess up and not pay correctly. There's also free periods of parking, like weekends after 7pm or something like that, but it's not clearly signed. Back when the barriers were in place, they went up at 6pm and stayed up, so it was free for people like myself collecting shop employees.

They've made an absolute killing off the new system though, my mum says every day she has people coming up to her in the store and asking about parking charges or tickets, saying the system makes no sense and they've been overcharged etc (there are a lot of foreigners who actually understood the old barrier system but don't get the new 'enter your reg and pay later' one. She has to constantly explain that there's nothing the shops can do, and that it's all handled by the parking company on behalf of the retail park.

I tend to park in NCPs, again they use the simple barrier system, which there's no way to mess up really. ANPR = Cash Cow.

[surveyor_101]

Chrisgr31 said:

and if people didnt abuse privately owned car parks then their business model would fail

I will answer that.

Not true as a lot of tickets are issued from anpr when abuse may not have occurred all together.

people who drop people back to cars getting tickets and they don't back down. They just lost a case in cornwall for someone who circled a ram carpark and left.

So yes some abuse but these guys just shoot everyone a ticket off the anpr.

[Red Devil]

surveyor_101 said:

They just lost a case in cornwall for someone who circled a ram carpark and left.

Just? The Fistral Beach case was over 2 years ago. The landowner go so fed up with PE that when the contract expired in 2015 they were told to poke it where the sun doesn't shine - http://www.cornishguardian.co.uk/Controversial-par...

[auto1]

I had a similar experience , with PE at Southampton Liner terminal.
A site called Leagle Beagle told me how to handle it free of charge, it was quashed.

[S11Steve]

auto1 said:

I had a similar experience , with PE at Southampton Liner terminal.
A site called Leagle Beagle told me how to handle it free of charge, it was quashed.

Ports, like airports and railway stations are "not relevant land" in the scheme of POFA. Easy challenge on that one.

[surveyor_101]

UPDATE

won at POPLA appeal parking eye are notorious at this site but their are 6/7 holes in their bpa compliance so they lost on lack of land owner authority. Parking eye aren't in contract with the land owner and they have a contract with an agent elite parking scumbags Ltd.j

They have two different contracts and present different ones at different appeals for the same site! Fraud maybe ?Also the signage evidence to popla you can drive a bus through. They show a site plan with signs that aren't all on the photos and one photo says sign removed on it!

They are clearly chancers

[bad company]

surveyor_101 said:

UPDATE

won at POPLA appeal parking eye are notorious at this site but their are 6/7 holes in their bpa compliance so they lost on lack of land owner authority. Parking eye aren't in contract with the land owner and they have a contract with an agent elite parking scumbags Ltd.j

They have two different contracts and present different ones at different appeals for the same site! Fraud maybe ?Also the signage evidence to popla you can drive a bus through. They show a site plan with signs that aren't all on the photos and one photo says sign removed on it!

They are clearly chancers

Well Done that man.

[S11Steve]

Nice work!

3 POPLA wins for me this morning too, 2x No Keeper Liability, and 1x No Landowner Authority.
Landowner authority seems to be an easy win on so many PPC cases at the moment.

The ironic thing is that I had passed on the operator details, but all three companies refused to accept it. I know one of the three would pay the charge without question, so not only have they lost out on their £100 bounty, it has also cost them £27 at POPLA.

That cheers me up no end.

[blueg33]

Surveyor, was you appeal handled by Wright Hassall? I have a stayed appeal that is being handled by them, my grounds are signage and land owner authority

[johnfm]

blueg33 said:

Surveyor, was you appeal handled by Wright Hassall? I have a stayed appeal that is being handled by them, my grounds are signage and land owner authority

You use lawyers to draft a POPLA appeal?

[blueg33]

johnfm said:

blueg33 said:

Surveyor, was you appeal handled by Wright Hassall? I have a stayed appeal that is being handled by them, my grounds are signage and land owner authority

You use lawyers to draft a POPLA appeal?

No not me! A whole bunch of stayed Appeals have been handed by POPLA to Wright Hassall for the decision

[S11Steve]

Wright Hassall? The same law firm who also do debt recovery for the private parking industry?
That sounds totally independent and unbiased to me...

I think you'll be needing this link for reference at some point in the near future.
http://ispa.co.uk/userfiles/files/ISPA%20Statement...

[blueg33]

S11Steve said:

Wright Hassall? The same law firm who also do debt recovery for the private parking industry?
That sounds totally independent and unbiased to me...

I think you'll be needing this link for reference at some point in the near future.
http://ispa.co.uk/userfiles/files/ISPA%20Statement...

Yep those muppets