6 Points in First 2 Years

[BertBert]

AH33 said:

This happened to me years ago. 130+ on the motorway for 7 miles, 9 points - first 2 years of driving.

Nice one!

[AH33]

Mr2 Turbo.

The fine wasn't nice though.

[Mk3Spitfire]

Cat said:

Ki3r said:

I'm 99% sure you can't give a vdrs for a tyre offence (or anything that carries points?). It's more for slight defects (lights and stuff like that).

VDRN's can be issued for offences which carry points, including defective tyres.

The main criteria for using the VDR scheme is that fault should be something covered by the MOT as it is an MOT station that must endorse the paperwork confirming the defect has been repaired. This means, for example, that the VDRS shouldn't be used for illegal tints as this is not covered in the MOT.

The scheme only applies to cars, motorcycles, goods vehicles not exceeding 3500kg GVW and trailers towed by any of them.

Cat

A lot of forces no longer use VDRS at all. It's either straight to FPN (if you're RPU) or words of advice if not dangerous (and not on RPU, thus having a heart)

[over_the_hill]

Trexthedinosaur said:

over_the_hill said:

The insurance quote is likely to be interesting.

Why, 6 points only, no ban.

Happened to my friend, once on the phone, once speeding, was back on the road within 8-10 weeks.

Because as a relatively new driver he is probably already paying an arm and a leg.

Add in 6-points (even if no ban or licence revocation) and it's only going one way.
It will likely hurt more than any fine.

[Cat]

Mk3Spitfire said:

A lot of forces no longer use VDRS at all. It's either straight to FPN (if you're RPU) or words of advice if not dangerous (and not on RPU, thus having a heart)

The VDRS is still in operation here although there is talk that it may be done away with.

I obviously have no heart. A defective tyre wouldn't be advice, usually a VDRN if below the limit but still with some tread, if it's completely devoid of tread or there is cord/ply showing it's a ticket every time.

Cat

[surveyor_101]

Ki3r said:

I'm 99% sure you can't give a vdrs for a tyre offence (or anything that carries points?). It's more for slight defects (lights and stuff like that).

Courts don't get involved. If he hasn't handed his licence to the police at the roadside, once he takes it to the station they will send it off to the dvla who will then revoke it. He is ok to drive until he hears from the dvla that it has been revoked.

Friend got one back in the day like 1999, after the Avon and Somerset god of roads policing said he was a vehicle inspector and if the car wasn't 100% it was going on a low loader. He then found one tyre o/ or below legal limit and issued VDRS. He had to get a new tyre and take it to police station and have it checked or mot garage who charged.

[surveyor_101]

Mk3Spitfire said:

A lot of forces no longer use VDRS at all. It's either straight to FPN (if you're RPU) or words of advice if not dangerous (and not on RPU, thus having a heart)

Its all about generating fines these days, why respect for the police is at all time low. If they engage and advice be proactive things would be better.

Why is there a what can I do you for mentality, that one act of leniency can change a young person attitude to the police for life.

Our receptionist gets caught a little over 30 limit 7am on a road that used to be a 40. Police say fine or speed awareness ok fair enough. Then her given address doesn't match her DL before they have even gone into time at new address straight onto £1000 fine for that another offence and starts chalking up another offence. Avon and Somerset RPU wining hearts and minds yet again.

[Mk3Spitfire]

surveyor_101 said:

Mk3Spitfire said:

A lot of forces no longer use VDRS at all. It's either straight to FPN (if you're RPU) or words of advice if not dangerous (and not on RPU, thus having a heart)

Its all about generating fines these days, why respect for the police is at all time low. If they engage and advice be proactive things would be better.

Why is there a what can I do you for mentality, that one act of leniency can change a young person attitude to the police for life.

Our receptionist gets caught a little over 30 limit 7am on a road that used to be a 40. Police say fine or speed awareness ok fair enough. Then her given address doesn't match her DL before they have even gone into time at new address straight onto £1000 fine for that another offence and starts chalking up another offence. Avon and Somerset RPU wining hearts and minds yet again.

Different people have different ways of looking at things. On one hand, if you've committed an offence, you should be dealt with for it. On the other hand, I think a bit of discretion goes a long way. In the right circumstances of course. No one loses out, and perception of the police improves.
Trouble is, RPU are there to deal with traffic offences, and regardless of what bosses say, they are measured on their returns.
Personally, I think education and engagement is of more benefit than stinging people whenever possible.
I find that more and more, new recruits are a little over zealous when dealing with offences. Seen some interactions recently that literally make me cringe.
I was always told to treat people as I would like my family to be treated.

[shep1001]

Martin43 said:

I fear it may take longer than that for my stepson.

He has to reapply to the DVLA for his licence again, book and sit his theory test then book and pass the practical part.

I reckon best part of 6 weeks minimum.

Considering if you loose your licence to points after 2 years it can mean 6 months off the road 6 weeks is a bit of a result. Not long enough to do any real harm but enough time to reflect on his stupidity. Rib him mercilessly and when you see him walking down the street you need to shout Bus wan*er after him!