Strange court decision, sexist?

Strange court decision, sexist?

Author
Discussion

joeg

Original Poster:

122 posts

174 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
quotequote all
A couple having sex in a doorway, both charged. Male convicted in court female not called to court....https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/man-caught-sex-aberdeen-city-centre-doorway-fined-250-2/

PH XKR

1,761 posts

101 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
quotequote all
Just another example of the man being fked, twice.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
quotequote all
Man admitted it, woman denied it, prosecutors decided not to proceed against her but as he's already said he did it be gets fined.

Black_S3

2,667 posts

187 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
quotequote all
aberdeen lol

BlueHave

4,636 posts

107 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
quotequote all
Might have something to do with him having his love wand hanging out and her love tunnel in

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

231 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
BlueHave said:
Might have something to do with him having his love wand hanging out and her love tunnel in
Love wand? Love tunnel? Are you 6?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

156 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
The female is always deemed the victim.

Didn't you know that?

DuncB7

353 posts

97 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
Does this make me proud of my city or not, probably the latter.

Terrible choice of 'venue' to carry out such a spectacle. There's a darkened lane just further down the street where one could shelter behind a number of bins. Although not as romantic, my suggested location would have been distinctly less expensive in the long run.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

236 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
IanMorewood said:
Man admitted it, woman denied it, prosecutors decided not to proceed against her but as he's already said he did it be gets fined.
Nice to see justice being done...

With an early 'guilty' plea from the Man, the spineless / sexist prosecutors should have given the woman a bigger fine for lying.

jshell

11,006 posts

204 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
joeg said:
A couple having sex in a doorway, both charged. Male convicted in court female not called to court.... https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/man...
Aberdeen, it doesn't change. Love it!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
The Surveyor said:
With an early 'guilty' plea from the Man, the spineless / sexist prosecutors should have given the woman a bigger fine for lying.
That's not how it works, though.
If somebody, anybody, denies a criminal offence, then a fine is imposed if and when a court finds them guilty in a trial. A trial is an expensive, time-consuming thing. Would it be in the public interest to hold one over something so minor?

KevinCorvetteC6

11,553 posts

279 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
Seems odd, if he has admitted it how can she be not guilty, or in this case, not even charged?

PH XKR

1,761 posts

101 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
Watch Eastender at the minute, poor jay is feeling the imbalance of power.

boyse7en

6,671 posts

164 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
KevinCorvetteC6 said:
Seems odd, if he has admitted it how can she be not guilty, or in this case, not even charged?
Because she may contest that it never happened and he is lying (or at least taking the line of least resistance)

or maybe he thought he was shagging her, but she never realised...

xjay1337

15,966 posts

117 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
Absolute b*llocks.

McGraw

197 posts

142 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
She isn't named in the article either.

It's funny though that he thought it was unfair, they obviously didn't end up carrying anything on much longer.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

236 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
TooMany2cvs said:
The Surveyor said:
With an early 'guilty' plea from the Man, the spineless / sexist prosecutors should have given the woman a bigger fine for lying.
That's not how it works, though.
If somebody, anybody, denies a criminal offence, then a fine is imposed if and when a court finds them guilty in a trial. A trial is an expensive, time-consuming thing. Would it be in the public interest to hold one over something so minor?
I don't disagree with your comments on the process. As far as this being in the public interest, if the offence was so minor the Man should have been let off with a warning at the most if they had decided not to pursue the Woman. There are plenty of trials where the sentence is reduced for an early guilty plea, this totally contradicts that by suggesting you'll get off lighter if you lie. Something that certainly isn't in the public interest.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
The Surveyor said:
As far as this being in the public interest, if the offence was so minor the Man should have been let off with a warning at the most
He stuck his hand up and said "Yep, I did it." (I think it was his hand. I hope it was his hand...) He got a fine, there and then. No more needed than that.

She decided to gamble that there were more important cases for the prosecution and the court to spend their time and energy on. She won. This time. But surely the most important thing is that they've probably both learned a lesson...?

aka_kerrly

12,415 posts

209 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
The Surveyor said:
There are plenty of trials where the sentence is reduced for an early guilty plea, this totally contradicts that by suggesting you'll get off lighter if you lie. Something that certainly isn't in the public interest.
Pretty much sums it up, a truly strange decision for the court to make.

It would be interesting to know what kind of legal advice the man had as logic would suggest than an early guilty plea is generally recommended but in this case turned out to be not the best advice.

What if both parties had denied the offence?

jshell

11,006 posts

204 months

Friday 29th April 2016
quotequote all
She could drop here skirt and provide no evidence, he would be less able to hide the 'offending article'... Maybe her boyfriend is the winner as he is oblivious!