Anti-Social Neighbours Again - Threat to go public idea

Anti-Social Neighbours Again - Threat to go public idea

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cptsideways

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13,535 posts

251 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Once again we are blighted with neighbours from hell. Not the first time, previously the process took months years to deal with a previous threat of going public with the issue & the matter got dealt with. So this time a new tactic is required.

I'm asking those familiar with running Facebook groups the best way to make a group with a diary of events. Other neighbours can add to it or those within the group.

What we'd like to be able to do is make it publishable to individuals on an invited basis.

PoleDriver

28,616 posts

193 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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You'll get far more help if you give us the whole story! smile

snorky782

1,115 posts

98 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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There seems to be a connection here that the one who always has the nightmare neighbours is you. Just saying scratchchin

PoleDriver

28,616 posts

193 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Alucidnation

16,810 posts

169 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Rinse and repeat.

Monkeylegend

26,226 posts

230 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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What have you done to upset these neighbours then?

cptsideways

Original Poster:

13,535 posts

251 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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More a social landlord problem ie not being dealt with.

snorky782

1,115 posts

98 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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cptsideways said:
More a social landlord problem ie not being dealt with.
To summarise, you had bad neighbours, you've now got new neighbours and don't like them and you've also got a problem with the landlord, who won't live at the address.

Taking a long hard look in the mirror might be a good place to help you identify the common person in these neighbour disputes.

cptsideways said:
Once again we are blighted with neighbours from hell. Not the first time, previously the process took months years to deal with a previous threat of going public with the issue & the matter got dealt with. So this time a new tactic is required.

I'm asking those familiar with running Facebook groups the best way to make a group with a diary of events. Other neighbours can add to it or those within the group.

What we'd like to be able to do is make it publishable to individuals on an invited basis.

cptsideways

Original Poster:

13,535 posts

251 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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snorky782 said:
cptsideways said:
More a social landlord problem ie not being dealt with.
To summarise, you had bad neighbours, you've now got new neighbours and don't like them and you've also got a problem with the landlord, who won't live at the address.

Taking a long hard look in the mirror might be a good place to help you identify the common person in these neighbour disputes.

cptsideways said:
Once again we are blighted with neighbours from hell. Not the first time, previously the process took months years to deal with a previous threat of going public with the issue & the matter got dealt with. So this time a new tactic is required.

I'm asking those familiar with running Facebook groups the best way to make a group with a diary of events. Other neighbours can add to it or those within the group.

What we'd like to be able to do is make it publishable to individuals on an invited basis.
So I'm the drug dealer, using children as the drug runners wink it makes life easier for the scrotes as they can't get caught red handed so easily. Also the official neighbours are not the ones doing the dealing, its their associates. Google cuckoo'ing for some enlightenment.

I guess you have little experience of living next door to social housing. PS We bought our house 16 years ago 10 years before next door got bought by the local Housing Association, we would like to move away for the obvious reasons but ours & our other neighbours houses are blighted which means financially we currently can't move.


S10GTA

12,645 posts

166 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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cptsideways said:
snorky782 said:
cptsideways said:
More a social landlord problem ie not being dealt with.
To summarise, you had bad neighbours, you've now got new neighbours and don't like them and you've also got a problem with the landlord, who won't live at the address.

Taking a long hard look in the mirror might be a good place to help you identify the common person in these neighbour disputes.

cptsideways said:
Once again we are blighted with neighbours from hell. Not the first time, previously the process took months years to deal with a previous threat of going public with the issue & the matter got dealt with. So this time a new tactic is required.

I'm asking those familiar with running Facebook groups the best way to make a group with a diary of events. Other neighbours can add to it or those within the group.

What we'd like to be able to do is make it publishable to individuals on an invited basis.
So I'm the drug dealer, using children as the drug runners wink it makes life easier for the scrotes as they can't get caught red handed so easily. Also the official neighbours are not the ones doing the dealing, its their associates. Google cuckoo'ing for some enlightenment.

I guess you have little experience of living next door to social housing. PS We bought our house 16 years ago 10 years before next door got bought by the local Housing Association, we would like to move away for the obvious reasons but ours & our other neighbours houses are blighted which means financially we currently can't move.
Having a similar issue with social housing tenants and their feral children. Doing my head in. I feel your pain.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

211 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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cptsideways/S10GTA- how many other neighbours have the same problem. Why not join forces, possibly a residents association ( IN EACH AREA) and start waking up local councillor ( to wake up local council housing officials) and county councillor ( to wake up Police) .It might be worth a group of you contacting MP.
With drugs if it's only you and a couple of others ,Police hands are tied, as there's little evidence for a warrant.

cptsideways

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13,535 posts

251 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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[quote=Who me ?]cptsideways/S10GTA- how many other neighbours have the same problem. Why not join forces, possibly a residents association ( IN EACH AREA) and start waking up local councillor ( to wake up local council housing officials) and county councillor ( to wake up Police) .It might be worth a group of you contacting MP.
With drugs if it's only you and a couple of others ,Police hands are tied, as there's little evidence for a warrant.
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Actually group action appears the way forward, spent much of yesterday door knocking in the street, we are not the only ones effected. There are 5 direct neighbours effected & aware, however age in not on the side of a couple. Several others were unaware but had noticed some things.

Some rather interesting results to say the least, when you bump into the parents of some of the guilty!

We have been down the councillor/MP/PCC route before, it was not what you call a notable reaction. The threat of making it all public did however create some action at the time.

We are aware that the police are useless in such matters, we understand why, still that does not mean they couldn't put a stop to it as soon as it starts.

Very simply the HA just sweep the matter under the carpet & wait for the shorthold tenancy agreements to come up, rinse & repeat. There are a lot of legal powers available to the council/police/HA that simply do not get used in our area. This is the matter we want to chase up publicly & legally if possible.

stinkspanner

701 posts

180 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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What do you mean by going public? Are you attempting to shame the hell neighbours? Will they care? Or do you mean the HA and will they care?

cptsideways

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13,535 posts

251 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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stinkspanner said:
What do you mean by going public? Are you attempting to shame the hell neighbours? Will they care? Or do you mean the HA and will they care?
Bit of both, every one of the HA houses in the street currently has "additional residents" not tenants & these extra residents are the ones usually causing the problems. The HA will not enforce its tenancy agreements they just allow this to go on regardless. If they enforced their tenancy agreements we would have a lot less problems!! Its not rocket science.

Currently the HA don't appear to care

ashleyman

6,963 posts

98 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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If its the HA not doing what their job, I'd personally look at moving if I could.

Very tough chances of making an organisation like that do their jobs properly.

RobinOakapple

2,802 posts

111 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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cptsideways said:
I guess you have little experience of living next door to social housing. PS We bought our house 16 years ago 10 years before next door got bought by the local Housing Association, we would like to move away for the obvious reasons but ours & our other neighbours houses are blighted which means financially we currently can't move.
Sounds to me like he's got little experience of anything. He's getting into the 'SP&L attack the OP' thing quickly enough though.

cptsideways

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13,535 posts

251 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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ashleyman said:
If its the HA not doing what their job, I'd personally look at moving if I could.

Very tough chances of making an organisation like that do their jobs properly.
The council have powers to take control in such circumstances, however our lot appear to be completely unaware of the powers available to them. Other borough's & counties use these powers successfully.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

169 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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If you try to shame the neighbours you'll just end up ion the wrong end of a harassment accusation, which the police WILL happily deal with.

Even if you try to embarrass the authorities you need to be careful, specially if you name individuals, for the same reason.

Don't underestimate how illogical and unjust the law (or rather its implementation) is these days.

It's easier to sanction/threaten an upstanding citizen to terminate complaints, than a feral bit of scum with nothing to lose.

Involve the neighbourhood PC/PCSO from the outset if there is one.

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

112 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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cptsideways said:
I guess you have little experience of living next door to social housing.
Exact;y! Its not easy to tell when you move into an area initially. Not everyone can afford nice houses on a middle class estate, and thanks to the governments "social inclusion" policies, all such "nice" estates built in recent years have to have a proportion of social/scum class housing.

Simple fact is where there is social housing, you get a significant minority of tenants who are simply scum.

Not necessarily anything he's done wrong.

cptsideways

Original Poster:

13,535 posts

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Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Psycho Warren said:
cptsideways said:
I guess you have little experience of living next door to social housing.
Exact;y! Its not easy to tell when you move into an area initially. Not everyone can afford nice houses on a middle class estate, and thanks to the governments "social inclusion" policies, all such "nice" estates built in recent years have to have a proportion of social/scum class housing.

Simple fact is where there is social housing, you get a significant minority of tenants who are simply scum.

Not necessarily anything he's done wrong.
Yes I would say to anyone moving into anything vaguely new build do so at your peril. Our lovely estate was built in the early 80's, gradually properties are being bought up for social housing, so even if you bought in when there wasn't any there might well be soon.

If & when we do move out we won't be anywhere near a housing estate that's for sure.

However the council decide which properties get used for what application. Eg general rental, youngsters, ex druggies, ex convicts etc.

Sticking youngsters (17 year olds I kid you not) in a house with a decent size garden that requires maintenance, bordering 3 other neighbours 2 of who'm are retired single ladies seems to us to be a way to generate problems not solve them.