Anti-Social Neighbours Again - Threat to go public idea
Discussion
Mr GrimNasty said:
If you try to shame the neighbours you'll just end up on the wrong end of a harassment accusation, which the police WILL happily deal with.
Even if you try to embarrass the authorities you need to be careful, specially if you name individuals, for the same reason.
Don't underestimate how illogical and unjust the law (or rather its implementation) is these days.
It's easier to sanction/threaten an upstanding citizen to terminate complaints, than a feral bit of scum with nothing to lose.
Involve the neighbourhood PC/PCSO from the outset if there is one.
Funny you mentioned this, we have a letter from past ongoings which actually suggests they actively would do this to protect their scum tenants.Even if you try to embarrass the authorities you need to be careful, specially if you name individuals, for the same reason.
Don't underestimate how illogical and unjust the law (or rather its implementation) is these days.
It's easier to sanction/threaten an upstanding citizen to terminate complaints, than a feral bit of scum with nothing to lose.
Involve the neighbourhood PC/PCSO from the outset if there is one.
This time however we would like to involve legal, our house insurance have suggested they would cover legal costs to a point. Are there any good barristers in the house familiar with housing law & vexatious litigants??
cptsideways said:
Actually group action appears the way forward, spent much of yesterday door knocking in the street, we are not the only ones effected. There are 5 direct neighbours effected & aware, however age in not on the side of a couple. Several others were unaware but had noticed some things.
Some rather interesting results to say the least, when you bump into the parents of some of the guilty!
We have been down the councillor/MP/PCC route before, it was not what you call a notable reaction. The threat of making it all public did however create some action at the time.
We are aware that the police are useless in such matters, we understand why, still that does not mean they couldn't put a stop to it as soon as it starts.
Very simply the HA just sweep the matter under the carpet & wait for the shorthold tenancy agreements to come up, rinse & repeat. There are a lot of legal powers available to the council/police/HA that simply do not get used in our area. This is the matter we want to chase up publicly & legally if possible.
Councillor route works best in the run up to an election, as does press involvement, but with press involvement comes publicity. Perhaps we were lucky, as we had the very active involvement of local & county councillors and MP , and we felt the best way was to set up a Residents Association.Senior police were asked some embarrassing questions, and with their backing, street level policing became more active. Some rather interesting results to say the least, when you bump into the parents of some of the guilty!
We have been down the councillor/MP/PCC route before, it was not what you call a notable reaction. The threat of making it all public did however create some action at the time.
We are aware that the police are useless in such matters, we understand why, still that does not mean they couldn't put a stop to it as soon as it starts.
Very simply the HA just sweep the matter under the carpet & wait for the shorthold tenancy agreements to come up, rinse & repeat. There are a lot of legal powers available to the council/police/HA that simply do not get used in our area. This is the matter we want to chase up publicly & legally if possible.
Bit of an update:
The current issues only kicked off in the last 3-4 weeks, however it was/is the same type of activities as we had before so we were very familiar with the almost predictable ongoings, though this time there is one thing alarmingly different.
A threat to go public was made early on if the problem didn't get dealt with properly & promptly, we have passed word about that we are doing just that in the hope it filtered down the chain. In fact an investigative journalist is on the case
Word is multiple agencies are currently involved or shall we say on the street as there are 3 other properties in the neighbourhood being dealt with for similar or related issues.
It's fairly apparent the HA have been rather lax in enforcing & policing their tenancy arrangements as we knew all along. Up till now at least.
As anyone who has experienced "neighbours from hell" will know, this sort of stuff can really get you down if its not dealt with. When the current system is so favoured towards those causing the issues. My suggestion would be fight it as publicly as possible.
The current issues only kicked off in the last 3-4 weeks, however it was/is the same type of activities as we had before so we were very familiar with the almost predictable ongoings, though this time there is one thing alarmingly different.
A threat to go public was made early on if the problem didn't get dealt with properly & promptly, we have passed word about that we are doing just that in the hope it filtered down the chain. In fact an investigative journalist is on the case
Word is multiple agencies are currently involved or shall we say on the street as there are 3 other properties in the neighbourhood being dealt with for similar or related issues.
It's fairly apparent the HA have been rather lax in enforcing & policing their tenancy arrangements as we knew all along. Up till now at least.
As anyone who has experienced "neighbours from hell" will know, this sort of stuff can really get you down if its not dealt with. When the current system is so favoured towards those causing the issues. My suggestion would be fight it as publicly as possible.
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