Avg speed cameras and road works

Avg speed cameras and road works

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petrolsniffer

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2,461 posts

175 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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Hi all quick question to you all.

I live near and commute on the a614 Nottinghamshire.

Recently they've doing road works or planning to close it soon on the 5th iirc at night anyway for the past week or two they've had the 30 limit signs out yet no road works appear to be being done cones,work trucks etc.

The road is normally a 50 enforced by avg speed now i've been doing the posted 30 just to be safe but can they actually turn the limit down on these cameras or has it been known on roads that already had cameras vs them being install just for the road works?

Some seem to be ignoring it while others like myself are obeying it.

If it has been lowered alot of people are going to get some surprises in the post judging the amount that have been overtaking me. hehe

tapereel

1,860 posts

117 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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Of course they can

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

180 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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tapereel said:
Of course they can
Provided they have temporary traffic regulation order in place then yes.

Being highways England they normally are.

grumpyscot

1,279 posts

193 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Of course, many will have removed their number plate from the front of the car and will be displaying it on the dashboard, where the cameras won't pick it up!

tapereel

1,860 posts

117 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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grumpyscot said:
Of course, many will have removed their number plate from the front of the car and will be displaying it on the dashboard, where the cameras won't pick it up!
Rear facing is the recommended way to implement these now. Some still on front facing but hey-ho.

rich888

2,610 posts

200 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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petrolsniffer said:
Hi all quick question to you all.

I live near and commute on the a614 Nottinghamshire.

Recently they've doing road works or planning to close it soon on the 5th iirc at night anyway for the past week or two they've had the 30 limit signs out yet no road works appear to be being done cones,work trucks etc.

The road is normally a 50 enforced by avg speed now i've been doing the posted 30 just to be safe but can they actually turn the limit down on these cameras or has it been known on roads that already had cameras vs them being install just for the road works?

Some seem to be ignoring it while others like myself are obeying it.

If it has been lowered a lot of people are going to get some surprises in the post judging the amount that have been overtaking me. hehe
To anyone not familiar with this stretch of road, the A614 is an old Roman road and the temporary 30mph reduction in speed limit is from the A617 roundabout to Rufford Abbey which is a distance of approx 4.37 miles.

I had the misfortune of driving along it yesterday to visit the Thoresby classic car and bike show and it was excruciatingly painful to drive along at 30mph with absolutely no road works going on whatsoever, just the temporary 30mph signs along the roadside and the old 50mph signs temporarily sprayed over.

Some folks say that the cameras cannot be adjusted easily but my guess is that the cameras themselves just read the number plates of passing vehicles which are fed to a control room somewhere which does the number crunching, i.e., the distance and time taken to travel between any two cameras on the network. Just because everyone else is ignoring the 30mph limit doesn't change the fact that the number crunching and calculations are going on in the background, so has anyone else received a penalty notice and perhaps a summons for speeding along this stretch of road whilst the temporary limits are in place?

As for me, I set the cruse control at 30mph, sat back, made a coffee and read a book...







P.S. only kidding about the last bits!

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

180 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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grumpyscot said:
Of course, many will have removed their number plate from the front of the car and will be displaying it on the dashboard, where the cameras won't pick it up!
I wondered if that was true but you could find they still use cctv evidence etc to track you down.

Is that why bikes never get caught

rich888

2,610 posts

200 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Also noticed that the temporary 30mph signs on this stretch of the A614 are also accompanied with NO OVERTAKING signs.

Screen-grab of dash cam shown below:


xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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How can we as normal people respect limits which are completely stupid.
Last time I drove up the M1 as well, there was some road works but the 50mph zone didn't have signs telling you when it was over (no national limit signs).
So you had to guess...

Cliftonite

8,413 posts

139 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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xjay1337 said:
How can we as normal people respect limits which are completely stupid.
Last time I drove up the M1 as well, there was some road works but the 50mph zone didn't have signs telling you when it was over (no national limit signs).
So you had to guess...
Was there an 'End of Road Works' sign? That would suffice.


xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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No I don't recall :-(

petrolsniffer

Original Poster:

2,461 posts

175 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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rich888 said:
To anyone not familiar with this stretch of road, the A614 is an old Roman road and the temporary 30mph reduction in speed limit is from the A617 roundabout to Rufford Abbey which is a distance of approx 4.37 miles.

I had the misfortune of driving along it yesterday to visit the Thoresby classic car and bike show and it was excruciatingly painful to drive along at 30mph with absolutely no road works going on whatsoever, just the temporary 30mph signs along the roadside and the old 50mph signs temporarily sprayed over.

Some folks say that the cameras cannot be adjusted easily but my guess is that the cameras themselves just read the number plates of passing vehicles which are fed to a control room somewhere which does the number crunching, i.e., the distance and time taken to travel between any two cameras on the network. Just because everyone else is ignoring the 30mph limit doesn't change the fact that the number crunching and calculations are going on in the background, so has anyone else received a penalty notice and perhaps a summons for speeding along this stretch of road whilst the temporary limits are in place?

As for me, I set the cruse control at 30mph, sat back, made a coffee and read a book...







P.S. only kidding about the last bits!
Ta it seems they've now stripped the suface and have that horrid bitumen stuff down and Max speed 20mph skid risk signs are now up i'll keep to the limit then smile

rich888

2,610 posts

200 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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I drove along this stretch of A614 today and what a mix of speed limit and advisory signs there were indeed, 30, then 30 no overtake, then the obligatory warning 20 risk of skid signs (on a straight road!) along with 50mph signs on the columns of the average speed cameras, then back to 30 no overtake, then 30....etc.

The contractors have in the meantime dumped a load of loose stone chips onto the A614 road surface, so assume they are relying on the poor motorist to press the chips into the road surface instead of doing their job properly!

What astonishes me is that of all the roads I've driven along in Nottinghamshire, the A614 has always been one of the better ones compared to some of the shockingly poor examples on other stretches of road, so am a little bemused as to why the surface has been dressed instead of repairing many of the poorer examples around the county?