Sex in the Police Force?

[Mill Wheel]

I am surprised that Northumbria Police have time to fight crime, or get any paperwork done, if they all behave like their senior officers!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/thirteen-cops...

Daily Mirror said:

Thirteen cops at scandal-hit force probed over claims of sexual misconduct in four years

It doesn't say that any of the thirteen were guilty, but the revelations so far of the behaviour of the Chief Constable and his senior staff do not show the force in a good light.

How much is all this costing the force in terms of money and loss of public respect?

I chose the Mirror quote as it omitted some of the more lurid detail reported in the Sun and the Daily Mail!
Is the PCC likely to act after the fashion of the PCC over the Hillsborough inquiry?

[anonymous-user]

Sadly, none of that surprises me in the slightest.

You know what they say: "Join the force, get a divorce".

Almost without exception everyone I know who has joined the police as an officer or a civilian staff member had ended up banging someone at work and then leaving their partner. Then banging someone else at work...

I've heard many stories of cops on night shifts at it with each other while parked in their patrol car on a quiet lane.

It amazes me that they get any work done in between having affairs with each other.

I wonder what on earth causes this 'culture'?

[grumpy52]

There was a culture in my area for members of the local force to have shadow personas on certain social media sites to organise their social lives .
Many stag type weekends at outbound type locations were far from unisex .

[Type R Tom]

Not defending them but I wonder, statistically speaking, when you stick 6000 odd people together working 24/7 how often people hook up.

[Durzel]

Who could've possibly conceived of the idea that putting males and females of the same species in close proximity for extended periods could lead to this!?

[Mr Trophy]

NinjaPower said:

I've heard many stories of cops on night shifts at it with each other while parked in their patrol car on a quiet lane.

I think its time to get my application in mate

[mike74]

I used to live next door to a single wpc, nice enough girl to be fair, but she was a right goer!
I'd see several different blokes a week turning up at the house, purely for sex, it really was just a quick wham bam thank you mam and they'd be gone again (thin walls and she was a yelper!)
I'm convinced just about all of them were fellow police officers, she appeared to have few female friends and virtually no social life, the only time she left the house was to go to work so I doubt she had much opportunity to meet blokes outside of work.
In fact one of her fk buddies even turned up in an unmarked traffic car once!

[Mill Wheel]

Moral issues aside, the amount of work time involved, and public money covering up the scandal would seem to be the important difference here... along with the issues of TRUST, which in this instance involves some officers neglecting the vows made when they got married, while enjoying a magical degree of trust in court when giving evidence.

If for instance two bank employees were found to be cavorting on work time, I'm sure they would be hard pressed to keep their jobs (except at boardroom level perhaps), but they are not required to give their word in court when giving evidence.

I did say that I left out the more lurid tales in some of the press - but for a senior police officer to be indulging in anal sex in the car park outside? Outraging public decency? Or does it not count if the public are excluded from the car park?

[HantsRat]

Male & females meet at work at have sex shocker!

[Mill Wheel]

HantsRat said:

Male & females meet at work at have sex shocker!

Males and females whose word is accepted in court above the defendant turn out to be human after all, and prepared to lie and cheat - just like the defendant!

[RobinOakapple]

Nothing wrong with a quickie at work, positively therapeutic at times. Bit of a drag if you're the only one not getting any, but that's never happened to me so I'm only guessing about that.

[944fan]

NinjaPower said:

Sadly, none of that surprises me in the slightest.

You know what they say: "Join the force, get a divorce".

Almost without exception everyone I know who has joined the police as an officer or a civilian staff member had ended up banging someone at work and then leaving their partner. Then banging someone else at work...

I've heard many stories of cops on night shifts at it with each other while parked in their patrol car on a quiet lane.

It amazes me that they get any work done in between having affairs with each other.

I wonder what on earth causes this 'culture'?

Yep. I was a strawberry at the police for a few years. They were all shagging each other. One chap I worked with was on his 4th marriage and was having an affair with someone else.

The coppers seemed to be the worse although the civvies had their fair share.

We had a female CC and there was a story about a cleaner walking in on her getting some on her desk. Not sure if that was true or not!

[CarAbuser]

If the careers staff in school had told me what goes on in mixed sex work places I'd never have ended up in engineering.

Everyone else gets a hedonistic romp-fest for a christmas party. We just have a load of old blokes sat in a country pub.

[Shaw Tarse]

People work together,
Pub.
Airline
bonk each other what's new?

[Type R Tom]

Mill Wheel said:

Moral issues aside, the amount of work time involved, and public money covering up the scandal would seem to be the important difference here... along with the issues of TRUST, which in this instance involves some officers neglecting the vows made when they got married, while enjoying a magical degree of trust in court when giving evidence.

If for instance two bank employees were found to be cavorting on work time, I'm sure they would be hard pressed to keep their jobs (except at boardroom level perhaps), but they are not required to give their word in court when giving evidence.

I did say that I left out the more lurid tales in some of the press - but for a senior police officer to be indulging in anal sex in the car park outside? Outraging public decency? Or does it not count if the public are excluded from the car park?

Couldn’t you aim a similar argument at the financial and legal industry? I would imagine as equal dodgy (but legal) stuff goes on alongside an amount of illegal activity too, drug use for example.

[944fan]

Type R Tom said:

Couldn’t you aim a similar argument at the financial and legal industry? I would imagine as equal dodgy (but legal) stuff goes on alongside an amount of illegal activity too, drug use for example.

Yep, also worked for a city law firm. They had two Christmas parties, one where husbands and wives were invited, and one where they weren't (so everyone could misbehave).

Coppers and Lawyers, two of the most badly behaved group of people I have worked with :-)

[Derek Smith]

HantsRat said:

Male & females meet at work at have sex shocker!

Woman who has been sacked claims sexism shocker.

One of the most significant problems in the service is the disruption to home/social life. I used to work all but three days a month and often had 14-hour shifts (with overtime). With an hour's ride to work meant that I had 8 hrs at home for the majority of days. This for three years. Some days I couldn't get home as I'd arrest someone on late turn and have to go to court the next day.

I had, and still have, a strong marriage, but even then it was tough for my wife and me.

Whilst this woman is talking of those in the upper echelons of the service, something of a closed book - or do I mean closed bonk? - to me, those at my level suffered a higher level of marriage break-up than average (then, about normal now) although how much was due to long hours or mere opportunity is unknown.

When I worked in an office, I was surprised how rife it was. All of a sudden a woman who normally dressed dowdily, in formless trousers and tops up to her throat, would appear in nylons and a top so low one had nowhere to look.

My office manager, when asked, would always tell me who the latest was having it off with - she doubled up with laughter when I suggested an affair - and it was normally civvy staff so nothing for me to concern myself with.

I'm told sex goes on everywhere so if that is true, it is not surprising that it happens in the service. There's nothing in the discipline code to suggest nature is wrong.

The only time I was surprised, and that's not a big enough word to describe my response, was at a going away do (to another force) for a detective sergeant, this in the 70s. His big entrance was with the wife of a bloke who'd just been rearrested after a major campaign in the east end that he was innocent.

As those who knew me at the time, I was not the most physically attractive man in the world. In the country. In the nick. Or even in my house after my son was born. However, I've had woman talk about handcuffs, press various bits of their body against me, and rub my truncheon (not a euphemism). When the did the last, there was an accepted rejoinder: I bet you think that's my truncheon.

For those who expected that there would be no sex amongst the hallowed towers of HQ, the question I would ask is: Why? Next you'll be telling me there's no sex in monasteries.

If it is done in a way which affects a senior officer's ability to discharge his/her duties impartially and without prejudice, then it is of concern. If not, then it is nothing to do with me. Or you come to that.

Or this woman, seemingly with a grudge.

Edited by Derek Smith on Monday 9th May 15:40

[anonymous-user]

Mr Trophy said:

NinjaPower said:

I've heard many stories of cops on night shifts at it with each other while parked in their patrol car on a quiet lane.

I think its time to get my application in mate

Be careful what you wish for Simon, your colleague might be a huge chap called Leroy...

[anonymous-user]

I don't buy the whole 'home partner / work partner' thing on any meaningful scale and separate nights out. It's never anything I've known.

As Derek essentially states, shifts and weekend working can make people see their colleagues more than their partners which doesn't help.

[Trevatanus]

mike74 said:

I used to live next door to a single wpc, nice enough girl to be fair, but she was a right goer!
I'd see several different blokes a week turning up at the house, purely for sex, it really was just a quick wham bam thank you mam and they'd be gone again (thin walls and she was a yelper!)
I'm convinced just about all of them were fellow police officers, she appeared to have few female friends and virtually no social life, the only time she left the house was to go to work so I doubt she had much opportunity to meet blokes outside of work.
In fact one of her fk buddies even turned up in an unmarked traffic car once!

You sure she wasn't "supplementing her salary?"