Goddamit Jury service. Get outs?

Goddamit Jury service. Get outs?

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XCP

16,914 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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Fun Bus said:
That certainly doesn't reflect the jurors I served with for 3 months,
Sounds quite like The House of Lords!

Fun Bus

17,911 posts

218 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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Far from. Two of the twelve were retired. None unemployed.

Monkeylegend

26,389 posts

231 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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Fall asleep on the first day, start snoring so the Judge notices.



jonamv8

3,151 posts

166 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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I couldn't risk a long trial even though I wanted to do it.

Work can't proceed without my involvemen.

Wrote s letter and got off it.

My dad gave me a load of ideas for how to get off if they refused but I'll keep them to myself I think

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,006 posts

102 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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It's only two weeks - go and do your bit basically.

Before you are assigned a case you sit in a waiting room. It can take a couple of days before you get a case; so you can work on a laptop then.

If your case ends with only a couple of days left out of your two weeks you might be dismissed early too.

steveo3002

10,525 posts

174 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
It's only two weeks - go and do your bit basically.

will you pay his bills and replace his lost customers then?

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,006 posts

102 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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steveo3002 said:
will you pay his bills and replace his lost customers then?
No, in the grounds no one did for me. You can claim your costs (basically your daily earnings) for attending up to a certain point anyway.

DuncB7

353 posts

98 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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I've wriggled out of jury duty 3 times now. Write a sob story letter explaining the situation and you shouldn't have too much difficulty.

HairyMaclary

3,667 posts

195 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Tomo1971 said:
Tell him to turn up in a KKK outfit with a sign round his neck saying 'bring back hanging'

You will see him back in his office by noon. :-)
A friends dad who is self employed did this. 1st day said "I dont think I should do this.... You see I'm a massive racist. I just cant stand that sort".

Did the job. I think he might now be on a list for massive racists.

Has your business partner had any mental health issues in the past? 100% gauranteed to be able to get out of it if he discloses he has.

Johnnybee

2,287 posts

221 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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I've done jury service and quite enjoyed it.

Similar to the racist thing above what would happen if you turned up on the first day and announced "I hate the police and will not be finding anyone guilty"?

TwigtheWonderkid

43,363 posts

150 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Johnnybee said:
Similar to the racist thing above what would happen if you turned up on the first day and announced "I hate the police and will not be finding anyone guilty"?
They'd give you a case where a policeman was on trial. hehe

superlightr

12,856 posts

263 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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breast feed in court.
Get the jug-lies out, flap about a bit, be a bit of an attention we, large it up, - bear with me applies to men as well..... if a man, as above but attach fake baby.....your transgender and also have the urge to breastfeed as a woMAN - who is to deny you that right......

Fek can you imagine to complications of unravelling that in court.

Disastrous

10,083 posts

217 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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I was called last week and having my own business, was desperate to avoid it.

I took some advice and was told that getting excused results in you being put on a recall list which means you WILL be called back within 6 months and that the best thing to do was turn up on the day and most likely not get picked.

The first day was cancelled, the second day we were sent home mid-morning and the third-day they kept us a little longer before sending up home. They called us back on Thursday but I just explained the position to the clerk of the court and without a second thought she said "No problem, that's you excused."

I think my point is that if you go along for at least one day, you are seen to have 'done your duty' in the eyes of the court, thus aren't put on the recall list. They seemed very happy to excuse in person so assuming you must be able to spare at least one morning off, I'd turn up, make my excuses and get out if it that way.

Johnnybee

2,287 posts

221 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Johnnybee said:
Similar to the racist thing above what would happen if you turned up on the first day and announced "I hate the police and will not be finding anyone guilty"?
They'd give you a case where a policeman was on trial. hehe
laugh

Paul Dishman

4,703 posts

237 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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When I did jury service a few years back they rang up and asked if I'd like to postpone to later in the year, I turned that down as I'd already arranged locum cover. In the event, I reported on the Monday and was selected for a four day trial, then told not to come in on the Friday, but return the following Monday. I was again selected for a trial which lasted until Tuesday lunchtime and then they discharged me.

onomatopoeia

3,469 posts

217 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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colin_p said:
Legend and folklore has it that if you start talking about "Nullification" that is quite effective in getting you off.

Nullification or Jury Nullification is your right as a Jury to return whatever verdict they/you want regardless of the evidence or whatever the Judge directs you towards. Apparently they really really do not like it.
I'd quite like to to jury service, but would never give a guilty verdict for an offence under s63 Criminal justice and immigration act 2008 or s53 of the Regulation of investigatory powers act 2000, as I believe them both iniquitous.

Do the barristers ask jurors questions before a trial (or indeed can jurors ask questions of the judge), or do you just file in, sit down, shut up and start listening?

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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anonymous said:
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When I did it, two of the people on other cases were wearing pajama bottoms one of the days.......

jith

2,752 posts

215 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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rossw46 said:
In week 2, I got put onto a case where a house-full of people had beat up a couple of bailiffs,
And they put them on trial for that!!?

sjtscott

4,215 posts

231 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Disastrous said:
I was called last week and having my own business, was desperate to avoid it.

I took some advice and was told that getting excused results in you being put on a recall list which means you WILL be called back within 6 months and that the best thing to do was turn up on the day and most likely not get picked.

The first day was cancelled, the second day we were sent home mid-morning and the third-day they kept us a little longer before sending up home. They called us back on Thursday but I just explained the position to the clerk of the court and without a second thought she said "No problem, that's you excused."

I think my point is that if you go along for at least one day, you are seen to have 'done your duty' in the eyes of the court, thus aren't put on the recall list. They seemed very happy to excuse in person so assuming you must be able to spare at least one morning off, I'd turn up, make my excuses and get out if it that way.
This!
When I served luckily my employer was fine to pay me full salary but with some conditions. On the first day with a huge group of new jurors the clerks basically work out who is suitable for what trial based on what they've got coming up and how long its expected to last and they specifically ask the potential jurors for stuff likely to affect them serving. I was told my employer would accept a standard two week length of service but couldn't cope with much longer so mentioned as much. Bingo I was assigned a financial fraud trial that ultimately lasted 2 weeks and a day due to the defense barrister 'wasting' time.. it took the judge a whole day to work this out before he was forced to 'get on with it'.
Within the group of people on the first day one guy said he had dental surgery (major) in 3 days time - he was excused immediately and sent home without being assigned on any trial.

Being paid for my time to serve ultimately I did really ultimately enjoy my time.
For all those positing about irritating the judge once in the court.. any p**sing around, falling asleep or generally not paying attention and you are ultimately held in contempt of court.. thats not a good thing! smile


Tiggsy

10,261 posts

252 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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was always under the impression part of the justice system problem was juries where made up of people to daft to get out of being there!

not something I've ever wanted to do - and when called up, found the "cant make it" process very simple.