CSA and home schooling
Discussion
Hi all I wonder if there is someone more knowledgeable than myself, if someone has a child that they "home school" and the child turns 16 do you still need to go through the CSA?
The parent claims the child is being home schooled but is not studying towards any A-levels (he didn't take any GCSEs), when questioned the child confirms he just plays his xbox all day. Reading the rules it states they must be in higher education studying for A-levels.
Can she just say "yeah I'm home schooling him"
Please note this is not an attempt at not paying it's just trying to stop being beat up by the mother every five minutes over it.
The parent claims the child is being home schooled but is not studying towards any A-levels (he didn't take any GCSEs), when questioned the child confirms he just plays his xbox all day. Reading the rules it states they must be in higher education studying for A-levels.
Can she just say "yeah I'm home schooling him"
Please note this is not an attempt at not paying it's just trying to stop being beat up by the mother every five minutes over it.
Your location says Coventry so I assume child in England too:
https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school
England
You can leave school on the last Friday in June if you’ll be 16 by the end of the summer holidays.
You must then do one of the following until you’re 18:
stay in full-time education, eg at a college
start an apprenticeship or traineeship
work or volunteer (for 20 hours or more a week) while in part-time education or training
https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school
England
You can leave school on the last Friday in June if you’ll be 16 by the end of the summer holidays.
You must then do one of the following until you’re 18:
stay in full-time education, eg at a college
start an apprenticeship or traineeship
work or volunteer (for 20 hours or more a week) while in part-time education or training
worsy said:
Your location says Coventry so I assume child in England too:
https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school
England
You can leave school on the last Friday in June if you’ll be 16 by the end of the summer holidays.
You must then do one of the following until you’re 18:
stay in full-time education, eg at a college
start an apprenticeship or traineeship
work or volunteer (for 20 hours or more a week) while in part-time education or training
Surely these stipulations only apply if the person wishes to make any sort of benefits based financial claim from the State?https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school
England
You can leave school on the last Friday in June if you’ll be 16 by the end of the summer holidays.
You must then do one of the following until you’re 18:
stay in full-time education, eg at a college
start an apprenticeship or traineeship
work or volunteer (for 20 hours or more a week) while in part-time education or training
Impasse said:
worsy said:
Your location says Coventry so I assume child in England too:
https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school
England
You can leave school on the last Friday in June if you’ll be 16 by the end of the summer holidays.
You must then do one of the following until you’re 18:
stay in full-time education, eg at a college
start an apprenticeship or traineeship
work or volunteer (for 20 hours or more a week) while in part-time education or training
Surely these stipulations only apply if the person wishes to make any sort of benefits based financial claim from the State?https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school
England
You can leave school on the last Friday in June if you’ll be 16 by the end of the summer holidays.
You must then do one of the following until you’re 18:
stay in full-time education, eg at a college
start an apprenticeship or traineeship
work or volunteer (for 20 hours or more a week) while in part-time education or training
I'm assuming the OP is suggesting that if his offspring is no longer in education he can stop paying maintenance. As linked, you have to be in education till 18 so the issue is not the maintenance but the fact the other parent is potentially breaking the law.
CoolHands said:
Your maintainence will continue until your child is 20 if they stay in education. Better dig your hands in your pocket!
Paying it to him is not a problem, I'd just like to tell his mum and the csa to do one, I'd have thought that being home schooled which in reality he isn't being schooled at all by his own admission and not studying for any exams removes the legal requirement for me to pay her.Surely there has to be some proof because as it stands I'm handing a couple of hundred over merely on her say so.
From the link above it states education such as college or A-levels, not sat at home on my xbox while my mum tells the LA and the CSA she's teaching him, quite what I have no idea as his mum makes katie price look like a genius!
This isn't about me not paying for him as I stated in my op.
Sheets Tabuer said:
CoolHands said:
Your maintainence will continue until your child is 20 if they stay in education. Better dig your hands in your pocket!
Paying it to him is not a problem, I'd just like to tell his mum and the csa to do one, I'd have thought that being home schooled which in reality he isn't being schooled at all by his own admission and not studying for any exams removes the legal requirement for me to pay her.Surely there has to be some proof because as it stands I'm handing a couple of hundred over merely on her say so.
From the link above it states education such as college or A-levels, not sat at home on my xbox while my mum tells the LA and the CSA she's teaching him, quite what I have no idea as his mum makes katie price look like a genius!
This isn't about me not paying for him as I stated in my op.
INWB said:
The law and what actually happens are two totally different things.
Indeed. The NEET cohort remains a significant number - http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBri...Drawweight said:
I can understand the OP being annoyed about the money situation but in his position I'd also be concerned about the boys future.
With no qualifications in sight what kind of job is he going to bet?
You'd like to think that would be a father's first concern, wouldn't you?With no qualifications in sight what kind of job is he going to bet?
worsy said:
Can't find anything to suggest home schooling can not be applied at 16-18 so in effect it would be up to the local council to satisfy themselves that education is happening.
So tell the council that you want proof and they need proof,A study timetable
List of books being used for each subject.
List of exams he is going to sit
Evidence of the past 6-12 months of home schooling
Put pressure on them to prove its all above board.
TooMany2cvs said:
Drawweight said:
I can understand the OP being annoyed about the money situation but in his position I'd also be concerned about the boys future.
With no qualifications in sight what kind of job is he going to bet?
You'd like to think that would be a father's first concern, wouldn't you?With no qualifications in sight what kind of job is he going to bet?
How long has he been home schooled for and why was this implemented in the first place? Ignore the very worrying fact he has no official qualifications, what about the social aspect of school? It might not seem obvious, but by sitting at home all day playing on the Xbox, he isn't spending a lot of time interacting with kids his own age, which could seriously stunt his social development.
I'd shop the mum in, but more for the boys sake and trying to salvage something from this mess....
I didn't want to clarify as it's quite personal, for various reasons he will never work, I always have and always will support him, as stated in my op this is not about avoiding payment.
I would like to do that directly into his own bank account as he is quite capable of spending his own money, his mother says this is unacceptable as it should go to her. She often calls me at work for next months money because of things like "her mothers birthday" or she wants "to go shopping in Brum". If I refuse she threatens me by saying she will say I've stopped paying despite having a record of payment I can't be arsed with the phone calls and having to provide proof.
I'd just like to give the money to my son and tell his mother and the CSA to do one.
I would like to do that directly into his own bank account as he is quite capable of spending his own money, his mother says this is unacceptable as it should go to her. She often calls me at work for next months money because of things like "her mothers birthday" or she wants "to go shopping in Brum". If I refuse she threatens me by saying she will say I've stopped paying despite having a record of payment I can't be arsed with the phone calls and having to provide proof.
I'd just like to give the money to my son and tell his mother and the CSA to do one.
If he cannot work then he will have to be in education until 18, be that at home or college so you are going to have to pay the mother until then.
The CSA is closing down though, by the end of 2017 I think, so when your case is closed the mother will need to agree CM with you direct or use Child Maintenance Service (you don't want this as they charge you).
The CSA is closing down though, by the end of 2017 I think, so when your case is closed the mother will need to agree CM with you direct or use Child Maintenance Service (you don't want this as they charge you).
Sheets Tabuer said:
I didn't want to clarify as it's quite personal, for various reasons he will never work, I always have and always will support him, as stated in my op this is not about avoiding payment.
I would like to do that directly into his own bank account as he is quite capable of spending his own money, his mother says this is unacceptable as it should go to her. She often calls me at work for next months money because of things like "her mothers birthday" or she wants "to go shopping in Brum". If I refuse she threatens me by saying she will say I've stopped paying despite having a record of payment I can't be arsed with the phone calls and having to provide proof.
I'd just like to give the money to my son and tell his mother and the CSA to do one.
If you can prove you're paying the right amount, on time, month after month, she hasn't got a leg to stand on. Call her bluff. Sounds like CSA would be easier to deal with than her. I would like to do that directly into his own bank account as he is quite capable of spending his own money, his mother says this is unacceptable as it should go to her. She often calls me at work for next months money because of things like "her mothers birthday" or she wants "to go shopping in Brum". If I refuse she threatens me by saying she will say I've stopped paying despite having a record of payment I can't be arsed with the phone calls and having to provide proof.
I'd just like to give the money to my son and tell his mother and the CSA to do one.
TooMany2cvs said:
Zero qualifications.
So just enough qualifications to be an MP then.On the radio yesterday someone was saying if the child has ever been in education then the LA has the right to come and inspect the 'school' to ensure it is doing its job. Not applicable if the child has never been to school.
Perhaps you should ask mother for some lesson plans to alleviate your fears.
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