Police too busy!
Discussion
Red 4 said:
bmw535i said:
No it wasn't. I just posted a news article. I have gone on to explain why I think the police are rubbish.
You posted the link and then said "utterly useless and couldn't care less".Not the sharpest tool in the box, are you ...
It's always at this stage of a thread (when people feel offended) that they start misquoting others and making stuff up. If you're a police officer, I'd imagine you're well practiced at that sort of thing.
surveyor_101 said:
He did proceed to breathlyzer as well, I thought it showed that he was a fair chap.
I have known police changing a wheel for similar loan females not related to them.
Yes he did, but I think he would have been better placed doing actual police work while the AA rescued the mothers keys. It would have been pretty awkward if he'd had to arrest her for DD.I have known police changing a wheel for similar loan females not related to them.
surveyor_101 said:
He got the approval of his supervising Sargent, I am sure if there was any urgent calls he would,be been told to prioritise those for attendance. He want on any active operation other than daily roads policing i would think.
I don't see a massive issue with it. Assiting vulnerable members of the public rather than parked looking for speeders seems a good use of his time.
I think you and I define "vulnerable" somewhat differently.I don't see a massive issue with it. Assiting vulnerable members of the public rather than parked looking for speeders seems a good use of his time.
A seemingly healthy middle aged woman accompanied by a male friend she had called to help, she also had her date there, in a busy well lit street well covered by CCTV.
I wouldn't personally class that as vulnerable. If a random member of the public who WAS vulnerable had rung 999 or 101 for police assistance to retrieve lost keys, do you really think they would attend? (I'm not suggesting they should)
Mk3Spitfire said:
I completely understand where the OP is coming from. I have met two BMW 535i drivers who were complete cretins. I now therefore assume, and refuse to accept otherwise, that every other BMW 535i driver is also a cretin. I also met a soldier once, he was an ignorant, pathetic and rude excuse for a human being. As a result, I now believe, and feel the need to tell everyone that all soldiers are similarly ignorant, rude and pathetic.
Oh, wait....
Oh, wait....
bmw535i said:
I'm sure there are good officers out there who are diligent and willing to go the extra mile.
1. I don't know anyone who drives a BMW 535 so I can't really comment on that.2. I'd agree that a lot of soldiers are as you have described. Nevertheless, I wouldn't get offended by them expressing a personal opinion which differed from my own.
Police apology after burglars raid Brierley Hill firm twice in one night
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36337942
Hmmm seems it is catching on
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36337942
Hmmm seems it is catching on
bmw535i said:
Police apology after burglars raid Brierley Hill firm twice in one night
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36337942
Hmmm seems it is catching on
There are 13 million incidents per year (that go through the call centres) plus all the other ones which aren't captured by them. Within that sample you'll inevitably find examples like the above. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36337942
Hmmm seems it is catching on
Now you know the basic data you have little excuse for statistical ignorance. Although when you write off 126,000 people for no rational reason, I expect there's little hope of perspective.
Rovinghawk said:
This isn't government so much as delegated branches of the Home Office, ie the various police forces. In the same way as the rest of the public sector, their budgets would go much further if properly managed but they prefer instead to blame lack of resources.
What's your experience of managing public sector budgets and expertise to conclude they're not managed correctly? hora said:
Is there a BBC agenda at play?
I don't think so:Edited by hora on Friday 20th May 07:25
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-too-bu...
http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/19/man-furious-after-po...
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/police-too-b...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/somerse...
http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/Investigation-l...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-129268...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...
http://www.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/viewer.as...
http://www.briefreport.co.uk/news/man-furious-afte...
http://www.essexchronicle.co.uk/Essex-Police-busy-...
The indirect demand is one most are not aware of.
It's in the news today, once more, that the NHS are struggling with their mental health services. Both in terms of over-spending and sending increasing numbers of patients to other areas.
The amount of 'sectioning' the police have had to do it ever-increasing. It's around 18,000 136s at the moment, which has increased year on year. The College of Policing estimate the ones who go to the police cells (a great place for someone mentally ill) is around 60,000 hours per year (that's based on 1 x 10 hours as opposed to calculating individual officer time as well as custody Sergeant etc).
It's in the news today, once more, that the NHS are struggling with their mental health services. Both in terms of over-spending and sending increasing numbers of patients to other areas.
The amount of 'sectioning' the police have had to do it ever-increasing. It's around 18,000 136s at the moment, which has increased year on year. The College of Policing estimate the ones who go to the police cells (a great place for someone mentally ill) is around 60,000 hours per year (that's based on 1 x 10 hours as opposed to calculating individual officer time as well as custody Sergeant etc).
XCP said:
I wish I could have got all my 136's done and dusted in under 4 hours!!
Or am I misreading the stats. Average time under 4 hours per customer??!!
I don't think I made it clear. Or am I misreading the stats. Average time under 4 hours per customer??!!
There were around 18,000 136s overall. 12,000 went to places other than custody, 6000 went to custody. The average custody time was 10 hours which is where the 60,000 hours comes from.
That's how I work it from the College of Policing data.
mph1977 said:
La Liga said:
The indirect demand is one most are not aware of.
It's in the news today, once more, that the NHS are struggling with their mental health services. Both in terms of over-spending and sending increasing numbers of patients to other areas.
The amount of 'sectioning' the police have had to do it ever-increasing. It's around 18,000 136s at the moment, which has increased year on year. The College of Policing estimate the ones who go to the police cells (a great place for someone mentally ill) is around 60,000 hours per year (that's based on 1 x 10 hours as opposed to calculating individual officer time as well as custody Sergeant etc).
of course the absence of a s136 equivalent power for Paramedics and Nurses means that if someone will not voluntarily go for assessment and the police are present it becomes either everyone sits around for a Doctor and an AMHP ( who may be a Nurse) to come and start S2 or the police 136 the individual and workign withthe ambulance service transport them to the 136 facility or a general A+E ... It's in the news today, once more, that the NHS are struggling with their mental health services. Both in terms of over-spending and sending increasing numbers of patients to other areas.
The amount of 'sectioning' the police have had to do it ever-increasing. It's around 18,000 136s at the moment, which has increased year on year. The College of Policing estimate the ones who go to the police cells (a great place for someone mentally ill) is around 60,000 hours per year (that's based on 1 x 10 hours as opposed to calculating individual officer time as well as custody Sergeant etc).
Rovinghawk said:
La Liga- my experience of this form of financial control is that it's exactly the same as student Athletic Unions. It's a bad system for the reasons I mentioned earlier. If you think it's a good system then please tell me why.
You weren't talking about the system, you were talking about it being 'managed properly' as opposed to 'blaming a lack of resources': Rovinghawk said:
This isn't government so much as delegated branches of the Home Office, ie the various police forces. In the same way as the rest of the public sector, their budgets would go much further if properly managed but they prefer instead to blame lack of resources.
It can only be internally managed within the confines of the external structures and limitations, which were created, imposed and sustained by previous governments / the current one. That's a separate matter to resourcing. 
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