Parking ticket at service station
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I've received a letter from a private parking company for parking at a service station.
A quick google gave mixed results some saying to ignore and they'll eventually go away and others talking about getting taken to court, CCJ's etc. so I'm a bit unsure of the best course of action.
Should I ignore it or should I just pay it and avoid getting shafted by additional charges mounting up, court etc?
A quick google gave mixed results some saying to ignore and they'll eventually go away and others talking about getting taken to court, CCJ's etc. so I'm a bit unsure of the best course of action.
Should I ignore it or should I just pay it and avoid getting shafted by additional charges mounting up, court etc?
I got one once and when I went back it was clear as day that there were pay and display machines with signs listing everything - I just don't go to service stations much and it didn't occur to me that they would be pay and display so I wasn't even looking for signs.
I paid it for an easy life.
I paid it for an easy life.
P17 Table 1 if it is in England
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Has been general policy for 50 years the only major change is ANPR is now used more widely than the old "man in a van" and clamping.
Link to older policies http://motorwayservicesonline.co.uk/MSA_Policy
Read it and sleep
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Has been general policy for 50 years the only major change is ANPR is now used more widely than the old "man in a van" and clamping.
Link to older policies http://motorwayservicesonline.co.uk/MSA_Policy
Read it and sleep
speedyguy said:
P17 Table 1 if it is in England
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Has been general policy for 50 years the only major change is ANPR is now used more widely than the old "man in a van" and clamping.
Link to older policies http://motorwayservicesonline.co.uk/MSA_Policy
Read it and sleep
Thanks for the link, I'm in Scotland though so not sure if that makes a difference?https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Has been general policy for 50 years the only major change is ANPR is now used more widely than the old "man in a van" and clamping.
Link to older policies http://motorwayservicesonline.co.uk/MSA_Policy
Read it and sleep
blueg33 said:
Is the ticket valid? How long did you actually park for? Driving round isn't parking. Can they prove you parked?
Do not ignore. That is old advice.
I'm not sure, the letter just shows a picture of me driving in and one driving out I don't know if they have other cameras or pictures. I was in the services for just over 2 hrs. Do not ignore. That is old advice.
BrownBottle said:
I'm not sure, the letter just shows a picture of me driving in and one driving out I don't know if they have other cameras or pictures. I was in the services for just over 2 hrs.
2+ hours : I think it's fair to assume you parked. They don't need to have a picture of you actually parked up.Scottish citizens advice here: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/scotland/consume...
Typically at motorway sercies parking for up to 2 hours is free. Over two hours you must pay for, and it's not cheap.
Worth fighting if you can prove that the signage was incorrect or missing. But otherwise you'll likely have to pay up
So 2hrs is free, I was over by 10 mins just my luck! I never park in service stations and was totally unaware that they had any kind of enforcement tbh so wasn't looking out for any signs.
Steff1965 said:
Advice for Scotland is ignore everything they send you. It can't be enforced up here if the driver isn't known.
Who advises that it's ok to ignore in Scotland? Or is that just the word on the street... BrownBottle said:
speedyguy said:
P17 Table 1 if it is in England
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Has been general policy for 50 years the only major change is ANPR is now used more widely than the old "man in a van" and clamping.
Link to older policies http://motorwayservicesonline.co.uk/MSA_Policy
Read it and sleep
Thanks for the link, I'm in Scotland though so not sure if that makes a difference?https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Has been general policy for 50 years the only major change is ANPR is now used more widely than the old "man in a van" and clamping.
Link to older policies http://motorwayservicesonline.co.uk/MSA_Policy
Read it and sleep
I don't think they define "short term parking" and i am unsure of their legislation on Parking so i'll keep out of it.
You could try http://www.transport.gov.scot/contact-page/contact...
Anything sent to the Transport minister here in England regarding parking if it relates to Scotland or Wales will be fired off to the relevant regional devolved administrations.
BrownBottle said:
So 2hrs is free, I was over by 10 mins just my luck! I never park in service stations and was totally unaware that they had any kind of enforcement tbh so wasn't looking out for any signs.
Scotland is still the way it used to be in England and Wales. The contract is with the driver and nothing to do with the keeper.Steff1965 said:
Advice for Scotland is ignore everything they send you. It can't be enforced up here if the driver isn't known.
Who advises that it's ok to ignore in Scotland? Or is that just the word on the street... Who said ignore?
BBC watchdog said ignore (video on you tube)
Lawyers through the courier newspaper said ignore
Some council or MP guy in Dundee said ignore
Pretty much any website you look at for private parking in Scotland says ignore
The word on the street is also ignore.
VCS lost in Dundee last year because there was no evidence of who the driver was. They then went on the loose the "lead" case as well
BrownBottle said:
So 2hrs is free, I was over by 10 mins just my luck! I never park in service stations and was totally unaware that they had any kind of enforcement tbh so wasn't looking out for any signs.
So you spent 10 minutes looking for a suitable space. Plus BPA guidelines say they have to give 10 mins leewaySteff1965 said:
Advice for Scotland is ignore everything they send you. It can't be enforced up here if the driver isn't known.
Who advises that it's ok to ignore in Scotland? Or is that just the word on the street... Give the service station a call.
Always better to deal with them than the parking company.
Say it was very busy and you took 10 mins to find a space.
Also give some sob story about your kid/mother etc.. being travel sick so you had to stay a long time.
Incidently what the hell were you doing for 2 hours?!? :-)
Always better to deal with them than the parking company.
Say it was very busy and you took 10 mins to find a space.
Also give some sob story about your kid/mother etc.. being travel sick so you had to stay a long time.
Incidently what the hell were you doing for 2 hours?!? :-)
- did it have a motel there? 
Is it a private parking firm - assuming it is. if so then who, and under what 'association' do they operate - itll either be BPA or IPC
If its BPA then appeal as you can go through POPLA using internet advice over on MSE parking fine forums. Ive defeated 20 through that (even though the new POPLA). They (the private parking company) will naturally decline your initial appeal but provide a POPLA code (so long as you asked for it) and then you can appeal through POPLA and easily get it overturned.
If its IPC then youll have to appeal through IAS but they will decline your appeal no matter what as they are a kangaroo court, be aware IAS/IPC is run by the operaters themselves. IMO its worth just appealing anyway and then ignoring any s
t from thereout.
Head over to MSE parking fine forums. Its a simple process to go through trust me.
If its BPA then appeal as you can go through POPLA using internet advice over on MSE parking fine forums. Ive defeated 20 through that (even though the new POPLA). They (the private parking company) will naturally decline your initial appeal but provide a POPLA code (so long as you asked for it) and then you can appeal through POPLA and easily get it overturned.
If its IPC then youll have to appeal through IAS but they will decline your appeal no matter what as they are a kangaroo court, be aware IAS/IPC is run by the operaters themselves. IMO its worth just appealing anyway and then ignoring any s
t from thereout. Head over to MSE parking fine forums. Its a simple process to go through trust me.
Oh and FYI operators like Parking Eye do actually pursue this and take people to court all the time, they can if they want take you to court. So put some time into your appeal and defeat them through POPLA. Unless they are IPC/IAS then appeal and ignore once they have declined your appeal. Debt collector letters are all fake, all you need to look for is a letter before court.
MikeGoodwin said:
Oh and FYI operators like Parking Eye do actually pursue this and take people to court all the time, they can if they want take you to court. So put some time into your appeal and defeat them through POPLA. Unless they are IPC/IAS then appeal and ignore once they have declined your appeal. Debt collector letters are all fake, all you need to look for is a letter before court.
In Scotland? Show me a successful court case.
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