Car parking partnership CPN today

[anonymous-user]

200Plus Club said:

We pay 25 quid a month and you aren't guaranteed a spot. If you are later than 9am generally you won't find one and staff are not allowed to go in the pay and display car parks using their permit, you'd have to pay the additional £4 or 5 quid day charge.
The trust make over 1million a year profit on the single site from parking but details of how it works with regards CPP are strictly withheld. No one knows what the profit share is to the contractor.

Any profit to the Trust is reinvested though into care into the general budget.
Hopeful of an appeal to the parking manager rather than the company based on having a valid permit and not causing them any financial loss

A friend has the same issue at their hospital, amusingly it appears that it's cheaper to join the local gym using her 'NHS discount' and then park there free....

[PurpleMoonlight]

Red Devil said:

[It's not the ticketing per se which is the issue here. It's whether the PPC should be profiting from a mistake by an employee of the Trust. If the parking manager refuses to put pressure on the PPC to cancel the PCN what does that tell you about the attitude of management to its staff? Hardly an encouragement to morale. According to most of those people I know who work in the NHS it's not exactly at the top of the scale right now.

And what does it say about the OP's attitude towards his employer, or employment for that matter.

Let's hope he pays more attention to that than his parking permit, especially if he is involved in clinical care.

[PurpleMoonlight]

Red Devil said:

Ho hum indeed. From Mr Perfect who has never made an omission/mistake in his life. I'm not sure what medication you're on which gives rise to such hyperbole, but a lot of people? Shouldn't be more than two at the most. The parking manager or the person they delegate it to.

Nope not perfect, but I have never had a parking ticket in 35 years of driving.

[funkyrobot]

PurpleMoonlight said:

And what does it say about the OP's attitude towards his employer, or employment for that matter.

Let's hope he pays more attention to that than his parking permit, especially if he is involved in clinical care.

You really are a weapons grade moron.

[funkyrobot]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Nope not perfect, but I have never had a parking ticket in 35 years of driving.

That is probably because with an attitude like yours, you have no friends or any reason to leave the house.

[slow_poke]

funkyrobot said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

And what does it say about the OP's attitude towards his employer, or employment for that matter.

Let's hope he pays more attention to that than his parking permit, especially if he is involved in clinical care.

You really are a weapons grade moron.

“All morons hate it when you call them a moron.”
― J.D. Salinger, The Catcher in the Rye

[surveyor]

My days as a management surveyor..... Bogs, bins and parking...

One particular tenant had a problem as they were in and out, They either could not get into their space because of others bad parking, or else someone had hijacked it. The boundaries were such that barriers/posts would not really be effective. The answer was clamping (a few years ago).

Made sure we negotiated a reduced rate for tenants. We or the LL got no cut.

The complaints died down. One tenant learn't a harsh lesson, and was let off as generally she was a nice person - just a bit crap when parking.

Until the fateful day. I'd left the family firm, but as it was family had agreed to cove the phones while they had their christmas do.

The phone rings. My Angry solicitor shouts a lot. Eventually he calms down enough to tell me that one of his employee's has been clamped. He's going to sue me, the clampers, the landlord, and god. His guy needs his car back to get to court.... Oh dear I say... He did show his pass in the window? I get another barrage, which seems to say of course the chap is not an idiot.

I phone the clampers...who tell me how would they know it had no pass in the window. Not what they say.... But the clampers no fool. They have a photo....

Phone back Mr Angry.... placate him, point out that it's at his request they are there. And that the chap was showing no pass.. I think the discount is a fair compromise. Mr Angry disagree's and goes off to speak to his idiot employee.

A few minutes he pops back. Tell's me that the chap had just popped upstairs to pick up the pass. It's not fair he's going to sue etc. Speak to Mr Clamper (who is a cheerful rogue)... He's got two pictures, time stamped.. ten minutes apart...

At this point I've had enough of being lied to. Tell Mr Angry to do what he wants - but the quickest way of getting mobile is to pay the clampers before they tow the car.

OP - in short. They will have heard all the stories. You cocked up. Pay the discounted rate and get your pass sorted and properly stuck on.

[creampuff]

PurpleMoonlight said:

And what does it say about the OP's attitude towards his employer, or employment for that matter.

Let's hope he pays more attention to that than his parking permit, especially if he is involved in clinical care.

CONGRATULATIONS! You are the first person in the history of the world never to have made a mistake. Oh boy, my company has been looking for someone like you! I had to fire all my other staff, only last week our secretary, after 10 years of loyal service, well just had to let her go when she put a second class stamp on a cheque for one of our invoice payments, making it a day late to arrive and making us contractually bound to a £11.46 administrative charge. Looks like we are really lucky, we have found someone who never makes a mistake! Can you PM me your details. The job is yours. Just name your salary. LEGEND!!!!!

[PurpleMoonlight]

creampuff said:

CONGRATULATIONS! You are the first person in the history of the world never to have made a mistake. Oh boy, my company has been looking for someone like you! I had to fire all my other staff, only last week our secretary, after 10 years of loyal service, well just had to let her go when she put a second class stamp on a cheque for one of our invoice payments, making it a day late to arrive and making us contractually bound to a £11.46 administrative charge. Looks like we are really lucky, we have found someone who never makes a mistake! Can you PM me your details. The job is yours. Just name your salary. LEGEND!!!!!

Pay online it avoids the possibility of a late payment charge.

HMRC will fine you £100 if you are one minute late with your tax return so you got off lightly.

You couldn't afford me I'm afraid.

[silverfoxcc]

Very True, the halfpenny was withdrawn years ago

OP ignore the trolls and get onto pepipoo PDQ, those guys are there to help. and play straight with them they will p[lay straight with you, that the only rule you need to know.
The parking companies only exist because patsies pay up, Pepipoo try and reduce their income as much as possible

Take advice from hcandersen,schoolrunmun. Gan ,( he write great letters!) Lynnzer just look for posts well into four figures they are the regulars. PLUS it is great reading

AND it costs nothin but your time and could save you money

Edited by silverfoxcc on Sunday 22 May 16:09

Edited by silverfoxcc on Sunday 22 May 16:15

[Red Devil]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Red Devil said:

Ho hum indeed. From Mr Perfect who has never made an omission/mistake in his life. I'm not sure what medication you're on which gives rise to such hyperbole, but a lot of people? Shouldn't be more than two at the most. The parking manager or the person they delegate it to.

Nope not perfect, but I have never had a parking ticket in 35 years of driving.

OK you win. I've had two in 50 years.

Both were issued by LAs. I won't bore the readership with the background stories but each of them was immediately cancelled when I appealed. I have never received a PCN from a PPC. The difference between us is that I recognise that people are human and make mistakes. I wouldn't seek to dish out a wholly disproportionate punishment. Especially one from a third party whose only motive is its bottom line.

creampuff said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

And what does it say about the OP's attitude towards his employer, or employment for that matter.

Let's hope he pays more attention to that than his parking permit, especially if he is involved in clinical care.

CONGRATULATIONS! You are the first person in the history of the world never to have made a mistake. Oh boy, my company has been looking for someone like you! I had to fire all my other staff, only last week our secretary, after 10 years of loyal service, well just had to let her go when she put a second class stamp on a cheque for one of our invoice payments, making it a day late to arrive and making us contractually bound to a £11.46 administrative charge. Looks like we are really lucky, we have found someone who never makes a mistake! Can you PM me your details. The job is yours. Just name your salary. LEGEND!!!!!

I bet he's a hoot at parties.

Matthew 7:1-3

PurpleMoonlight said:

HMRC will fine you £100 if you are one minute late with your tax return so you got off lightly.

Oh FFS. The deadline for filing a tax return is several months after the end of the relevant year - https://www.gov.uk/self-assessment-tax-returns/dea...

For the OP the 'deadline' rolls over from one day to the next. Apples and pears.

[S11Steve]

In a nutshell - wait for them to send you a Notice to Keeper, (unless it is a company car then write to them now)

Reply to the letter as Keeper, not driver - make an appeal that you did have a permit that was paid for, but were in the process of revising the registration number. Nothing more, nothing less - just a weak mitigating defence.

Chances are it will be a rejected, and you'll get a POPLA code.

Then you can unleash the other issues;
- was the Notice to Keeper compliant to invoke keeper liability? Even ParkingEye can't get this right...
- are they acting as a principle or an agent, (agent - they won't own the land) and can they prove their contract with the landowner?
- Can they prove the signage was adequate to enforce a contract?
- Was the signage even offering a contract? Most actually don't...
- Is it a Genuine pre-estimate of loss, notwithstanding the Beavis ruling that is only applicable to a specific type of retail style free car park?

Once you throw these at them, you will probably find that the ticket, and appeal is cancelled.

I'm no legal expert, or even qualified, but I have dealt with enough of these tickets and fly-by-night chancers to know how to get them cancelled. I've stopped counting POPLA wins - well over 200, with zero tickets enforced and 3 court cases dropped upon receipt of my defence statement.


Private parking tickets are just as enforceable as my following statement...

Anyone who wishes to argue or disagree with post is free to do so, but by doing so you acknowledge and accept that you are liable for a £100 contractual charge, discounted to £60 if paid within 14 days.

[200Plus Club]

Some interesting and helpful replies many thanks.
Also some from presumptive numpties obviously lol
Can close the thread for me now cheers as I'm speaking directly to the parking manager who it appears is a genuine human being who appreciates life isn't perfect unlike one of the previous trolls lol.
End of the day no one lost money by my mistake which I can assure wasn't one of laziness:-)

[bad company]

200Plus Club said:

Some interesting and helpful replies many thanks.
Also some from presumptive numpties obviously lol
Can close the thread for me now cheers as I'm speaking directly to the parking manager who it appears is a genuine human being who appreciates life isn't perfect unlike one of the previous trolls lol.
End of the day no one lost money by my mistake which I can assure wasn't one of laziness:-)

Sounds like a result.