Crash for Cash?

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RussH91

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363 posts

159 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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This is evening, driving back from Telford, Donnington area if anyone knows it. Approaching a roundabout around 9.40 (so getting dark enough)car (car 1) travelling around the roundabout with no lights on, suddenly decides that they actually want to drive all the way around the roundabout back on themselves. All very last minute. Car two cars in front (car 2) stops in time to avoid car 1, car (car 3) behind it fails to stop, right into the back of it. If I was in his position I believe I would have struggled to stop in time, as I also genuienly thought car 1 was exciting the roundabout. I stop in good time apply hazards plenty of room for others to get by, get out to give details as independent witness.

Driver of Car 2 (complete with 3 passengers) instantly says everyone would be safer if we moved off the main drag down a side street to exchange details, no photos taken.

I follow and give contact details, at this point curiosity gets the better of me and decide that once giving both my contact details that I'm just going to drive into McDonald's car park as it just doesn't quite seem right (the direction in which car 1 drove off in). Sure enough pull into McDonald's car park to find what I believe was car 1 sat there in the corner of the car park four up! So I pull into a space to jot the number down as soon they saw me with pen and paper, they manage to turn their lights on and leave.

So back to orginal question does this sound like Crash for Cash, if so who would you report it to or would you wait til car 3 contacts you to show your true detective Poirot skills?

Red Devil

13,055 posts

207 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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RussH91 said:
So back to orginal question does this sound like Crash for Cash,
yes Just like this one (which failed).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uob0x5IMMr0
You will notice that it too is close to Telford.
Looks like the scam is quite prevalent in that area.
http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2016/04/15/warn...

RussH91

Original Poster:

363 posts

159 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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Red Devil said:
yes Just like this one (which failed).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uob0x5IMMr0
You will notice that it too is close to Telford.
Looks like the scam is quite prevalent in that area.
http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2016/04/15/warn...
So would you report it? and if so 101 will they give a monkeys, its obviously an issue in the area. I feel that it wont make a blind bit of difference and the poor bloke it is about to be royally shafted for 4 personal injury claims.

Even if I've got what I believe is the causer of the accident registration number.

IIIRestorerIII

841 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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Found this link within a few seconds of searching.

https://crimestoppers-uk.org/get-involved/our-camp...

Get it reported.

RussH91

Original Poster:

363 posts

159 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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IIIRestorerIII said:
Found this link within a few seconds of searching.

https://crimestoppers-uk.org/get-involved/our-camp...

Get it reported.
Unfortunately haven't got enough details for that. I'm hoping that as I was there to act as independent witness and the fact they clocked me writing down the details of 'presumed offending vehicle' that they wont pursue it. Although if either get in contact, especially the target drive, I will pass on the website and what other details I have.

jshell

11,006 posts

204 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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I'd be reporting it. There was a TV programme where people in an office spotted some dodgy driving by the same vehicles, reported it and the feckers got done for CFC!

RussH91

Original Poster:

363 posts

159 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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anonymous said:
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Unfortunately haven't a full enough moustache to go full Piorot. Although I can see how some people may make a similar assumption, to what I believe you are insinuating

SrMoreno

546 posts

145 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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RussH91 said:
So would you report it? and if so 101 will they give a monkeys, its obviously an issue in the area. I feel that it wont make a blind bit of difference and the poor bloke it is about to be royally shafted for 4 personal injury claims.

Even if I've got what I believe is the causer of the accident registration number.
Why wouldn't you report it? Maybe something will be done about it, maybe not, but it won't be on your conscience.

RussH91

Original Poster:

363 posts

159 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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SrMoreno said:
Why wouldn't you report it? Maybe something will be done about it, maybe not, but it won't be on your conscience.
It was more a case who to report it to where the information would be most effective, considering the limited detail I have. But never the less thank you for your concern of my conscious.

silentbrown

8,793 posts

115 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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RussH91 said:
It was more a case who to report it to where the information would be most effective, considering the limited detail I have. But never the less thank you for your concern of my conscious.
I'd start by reporting it on the link posted. If someone has a better way to report it, nothing to stop you doing that too.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

117 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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Sounds like a crash for cash.
You obviously got some details so report it.

bigbob77

593 posts

165 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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Sounds really dodgy. I would report it, and it's one of the reasons I've installed a dashcam.

To be fair though, if it was similar to this:
Red Devil said:
There is no way around the fact that the dashcam driver was driving too close to the car in front. He did well to stop with less than 1 second of distance between them, but that's just making things harder than necessary - sometimes people do slam on their brakes, for both good and bad reasons.

Obviously crash for cash assholes are to blame, but if you don't even leave a 1 second gap then these things will happen.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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If it looks like a scam, get it reported.

I can't help thinking though if people stopped driving up the chuff of the vehicle in front, these scams wouldn't work.

PorkInsider

5,877 posts

140 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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IIIRestorerIII said:
Found this link within a few seconds of searching.

https://crimestoppers-uk.org/get-involved/our-camp...

Get it reported.
Bradford and Birmingham postcodes make up almost the entire top 10.

eek

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

139 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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Sounds a bit dodgy, insurance will possibly look into it and maybe, big maybe MIB (motor insurers bureau) could get involved. Did some work years back on these organised gangs involved in CFC, not pleasant people.

Grunt Futtock

334 posts

98 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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PorkInsider said:
Bradford and Birmingham postcodes make up almost the entire top 10.

eek
I wonder what conclusions we could draw from the similarities between the two areas?

bigbob77

593 posts

165 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Grunt Futtock said:
PorkInsider said:
Bradford and Birmingham postcodes make up almost the entire top 10.

eek
I wonder what conclusions we could draw from the similarities between the two areas?
Bradford/Birmingham and the other one is Bolton...

Conclusion is I'm glad I don't live in Babbacombe

snorky782

1,115 posts

98 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Fozziebear said:
Sounds a bit dodgy, insurance will possibly look into it and maybe, big maybe MIB (motor insurers bureau) could get involved. Did some work years back on these organised gangs involved in CFC, not pleasant people.
Why would the MIB get involved? It's got nothing to do with they do.

The insurers will look at it and decide if it's worth investigating. The police rarely get involved unless part of a wider network, often involving other organised crime groups and this is an "easy" way of getting them jailed.

silentbrown

8,793 posts

115 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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snorky782 said:
Why would the MIB get involved? It's got nothing to do with they do.
Because they're deeply interwingled with the Insurance Fraud Bureau. https://www.mib.org.uk/managing-insurance-data/mib...

snorky782

1,115 posts

98 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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silentbrown said:
snorky782 said:
Why would the MIB get involved? It's got nothing to do with they do.
Because they're deeply interwingled with the Insurance Fraud Bureau. https://www.mib.org.uk/managing-insurance-data/mib...
We're heading down the wrong road here. The IFB are the ones who may get involved, but only if it's fraud across multiple insurers. The MIB may provide personnel to support, but they don't step in and they have no authority to investigate fraud, they provide back office administrative support in non investigative roles

Insurers second investigators out to the IFB on the really meaty cases.

Edited by snorky782 on Thursday 26th May 23:08