Can Baliffs pick locks legally
Discussion
Ok so peaceable means, does that involved picking locks.
An employee got a call from a neighbour to say someone claiming to be on offical court business, was working on her lock with a pick and tools
She left and dashed home and finds a guy trying to break in. Turns out he is a baliff locking for a previous tenant (our employee has lived there over 12 months). She has sent any debt letters back with no longer at this address. Apparently he was there to cease her goods. It was either council tax or catalogue debt she is not sure.
I am wrong in thinking unless high court with a HC Paperwork they can't force entry?
An employee got a call from a neighbour to say someone claiming to be on offical court business, was working on her lock with a pick and tools
She left and dashed home and finds a guy trying to break in. Turns out he is a baliff locking for a previous tenant (our employee has lived there over 12 months). She has sent any debt letters back with no longer at this address. Apparently he was there to cease her goods. It was either council tax or catalogue debt she is not sure.
I am wrong in thinking unless high court with a HC Paperwork they can't force entry?
surveyor_101 said:
Even if the defaulted party moved out over 12 months ago and the goods in the property are someone else's.
The goods will have been itemised and they can only take what is listed - none of which would be present of course. You'd hope they get the message that the person is no longer living there, but returning post is what a lot of people faced with such activities do anyway, so may be ignored. They should have left a document (with further costs to the original person!) so why not get in contact with the bailiffs?medieval said:
As soon as the legitimate owner produces proof of ownership or title then the bailiff has no right to sieze the asset as far as I understand - the bailiff would also be liable for any damage to the asset to which they have no right of claim also
Why would they damage something they are probably going to sell at auction? 22 said:
medieval said:
As soon as the legitimate owner produces proof of ownership or title then the bailiff has no right to sieze the asset as far as I understand - the bailiff would also be liable for any damage to the asset to which they have no right of claim also
Why would they damage something they are probably going to sell at auction? [/quoteBecause most of them are cretins.
Mercky said:
Why would they damage something they are probably going to sell at auction? [/quote
Because most of them are cretins.
Based on? An old stereotype? Personal experience? Because most of them are cretins.
I think the days of them being thugs are long since over. I help set up an in-house team for a local authority and they were predominantly successful through being articulate rather than scary.
Expect most could use a simple quote button.
Not on their initial visit, they can after they already served a levy.
If they've tried to gain entry by lock picking on their first visit, then complain
https://www.gov.uk/your-rights-bailiffs/how-to-com...
If they've tried to gain entry by lock picking on their first visit, then complain
https://www.gov.uk/your-rights-bailiffs/how-to-com...
22 said:
Mercky said:
Why would they damage something they are probably going to sell at auction? [/quote
Because most of them are cretins.
Based on? An old stereotype? Personal experience? Because most of them are cretins.
I think the days of them being thugs are long since over. I help set up an in-house team for a local authority and they were predominantly successful through being articulate rather than scary.
Expect most could use a simple quote button.
4x4Tyke said:
Not on their initial visit, they can after they already served a levy.
If they've tried to gain entry by lock picking on their first visit, then complain
https://www.gov.uk/your-rights-bailiffs/how-to-com...
Don't know showed no paperwork however cask if he could be let in even after the lady had provided ID proving she was not the person named he was looking for.If they've tried to gain entry by lock picking on their first visit, then complain
https://www.gov.uk/your-rights-bailiffs/how-to-com...
Have dealt with 5 or 6 and they were all cretins.
22 said:
Mercky said:
Why would they damage something they are probably going to sell at auction? [/quote
Because most of them are cretins.
Based on? An old stereotype? Personal experience? Because most of them are cretins.
I think the days of them being thugs are long since over. I help set up an in-house team for a local authority and they were predominantly successful through being articulate rather than scary.
Expect most could use a simple quote button.
medieval said:
22 my point is that if they have no right to the asset, they will be liable for any damage caused and will need to recompense the rightful owner
Not sure he could SEIZED her goods since he didn't have a schedule/ and or it would be totally different items he would of ceased. He did agree if she had not rushed home the stuff would of been gone.Its a council property doesn't take any real rocket science to establish the party sought no longer pays rent to the council or council tax.
Edited by surveyor_101 on Friday 27th May 13:43
Edited by surveyor_101 on Friday 27th May 13:43
22 said:
Mercky said:
Why would they damage something they are probably going to sell at auction? [/quote
Because most of them are cretins.
Based on? An old stereotype? Personal experience? Because most of them are cretins.
I think the days of them being thugs are long since over. I help set up an in-house team for a local authority and they were predominantly successful through being articulate rather than scary.
Expect most could use a simple quote button.
I suspectthe in-house were successful becasue they aren't commission only so had the ability to work their magic rather than try and bully their way into 'peaceable entry' under duress and then applying pressure and duress to get money
the knowledge and communication skills of the HCEOs in the various TV shows is refreshing if only all bailiffs and HCEOs were as professional.
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