Penalty for "dodgy" number plate

Penalty for "dodgy" number plate

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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This evening I was pulled over because a letter on my number plate has been moved to the other side. Fair cop and I'm happy with that.

After the usual patronising lecture about people making up their own rules etc, the officer stated he intended to give me three points and a fine - fixed penalty notice. I asked him if this was normal procedure as I wasn't aware a licence could be endorsed for this offence. I also showed him my legal plates in the boot.

At this point he just asked me to fit the legal plates and left.

Anyway, my question is: what is the penalty for this?

I've checked gov.uk and it indicates a maximum fine of £1000, but doesn't mention points on licences as far as I can see.

The officer seemed unsure which I'm guessing is why he couldn't get away quick enough.

Teebs

4,364 posts

215 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Fingers crossed for both a fine & penalty points

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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£100 non endorsable. Plus sometimes a DVLA referral which means they will revoke that plate.

Why move the letter? I don't get it. You wouldn't alter your TV serial number.

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

163 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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£100 fine was the norm as far as I'm aware. Happy to be corrected.

Been running a sticker plate for well over 2yrs now with no issues whatsoever despite numerous tugs.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Fine of up to £1000 if summonsed to court.

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Its non endorsable so no points.....

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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I didn't get either this time. He just drove off and left me standing there with a screwdriver in one hand and plates in the other. Weird.

750turbo

6,164 posts

224 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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bmw535i said:
This evening I was pulled over because a letter on my number plate has been moved to the other side. Fair cop and I'm happy with that.

After the usual patronising lecture about people making up their own rules etc, the officer stated he intended to give me three points and a fine - fixed penalty notice. I asked him if this was normal procedure as I wasn't aware a licence could be endorsed for this offence. I also showed him my legal plates in the boot.

At this point he just asked me to fit the legal plates and left.

Anyway, my question is: what is the penalty for this?

I've checked gov.uk and it indicates a maximum fine of £1000, but doesn't mention points on licences as far as I can see.

The officer seemed unsure which I'm guessing is why he couldn't get away quick enough.
https://www.gov.uk/displaying-number-plates/overvi...

No points - Officer was winging it.

It is a pet hate of mine, but each to their own OP.

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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I'm sure it was hideously unreadable after that individualistic kerning?! Some things are worth getting bothered about - a little bit of extra spacing is not one of these things for me. You vil comply and lets see the plate!!!

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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bmw535i said:
I didn't get either this time. He just drove off and left me standing there with a screwdriver in one hand and plates in the other. Weird.
Police can use discretion you know. Count yourself lucky you were given the option of correcting your chav plate.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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It's literally just one letter moved from one side to the other

Eg: F00T JB instead of F00 TJB

It's also 3D lettering which he told me was illegal. I told him it wasn't - he didn't reply. I think he was quite new to be fair.

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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bmw535i said:
I didn't get either this time. He just drove off and left me standing there with a screwdriver in one hand and plates in the other. Weird.
After telling you to just fit your legal ones, if you were getting a ticket or he was going to report you for it he would have said, so not that weird.


Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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bmw535i said:
It's literally just one letter moved from one side to the other

Eg: F00T JB instead of F00 TJB

It's also 3D lettering which he told me was illegal. I told him it wasn't - he didn't reply. I think he was quite new to be fair.
It matters not because if it does not comply it does not comply, even if its only 'slightly' illegal.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Greendubber said:
It matters not because if it does not comply it does not comply, even if its only 'slightly' illegal.
Yes I know and I'm willing to accept a fine/telling off/people calling me a "chav" etc. My point being that 3D lettering isn't illegal in itself - which is what he stated.

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Greendubber said:
It matters not because if it does not comply it does not comply, even if its only 'slightly' illegal.
Say the above in a more Dalek voice and it will make more sense wink

These things are SO important - an extra space could could totally confuse a robot wink

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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bmw535i said:
Yes I know and I'm willing to accept a fine/telling off/people calling me a "chav" etc. My point being that 3D lettering isn't illegal in itself - which is what he stated.
I know its not, I cant explain why he told you it was. Maybe it was an honest mistake, maybe he was being a wker, maybe he thought he was the fashion police who knows.


Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Ken Figenus said:
Say the above in a more Dalek voice and it will make more sense wink

These things are SO important - an extra space could could totally confuse a robot wink
Its an extra space that could stop the OP's nicked car pinging the ANPR cameras too.

The law is very straight forward, its either legal or its not.

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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I seriously doubt number plate recognition software which is a highly sophisticated and very useful bit of software could be that dumbfunded by a bit of extra space! So this is really about priorities - this really isn't one.

Edited by Ken Figenus on Friday 27th May 19:31

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Greendubber said:
I know its not, I cant explain why he told you it was. Maybe it was an honest mistake, maybe he was being a wker, maybe he thought he was the fashion police who knows.
Ironic that this should happen given the discussion we've had on another thread smile

I honestly just think he didn't know what the rules were.

I can confirm my car definitely has plates readable by ANPR.

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Guessing your self confessed illegal chav plate is for vanity reasons......so you probably have a personality disorder/self important streak/excess narcissism/low morale/fk the law attitude.

Strange behaviour. And to keep the 'legal' plates in the boot is laughably tragic.

Should be fined and plate revoked imho.

Cheers.
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