M25 No hard shoulder!

[simoid]

Bad enough being on a hard shoulder OP, let alone lane 1! Especially since many people seem to treat the Red X as optional, like, oh I don't know... registration plate rules

[fatboy18]

swerni said:

YPLAC

Thanks! I would expect nothing less coming from a Corvette owner

Edited by fatboy18 on Tuesday 31st May 11:37

[Gren]

Geekman said:

The gantry mounted speed cameras do not record drivers in lanes with a red X.

This is just the most ridiculous situation. How can a gantry with a camera be installed to catch people going above a limit on the sign when it can't be (or just isn't) setup to catch anyone in that lane when the X is shown?

A much more dangerous issue and I doubt anyone would disagree with its implementation.

[anonymous-user]

Gren said:

How can a gantry with a camera be installed to catch people going above a limit on the sign when it can't be (or just isn't) setup to catch anyone in that lane when the X is shown?

Legislation

Just like that legislation that all those people who wanted to use it to get off speeding tickets due to a technicality? "font irregularities" (reminds me of all the chavvy number plate threads on here )

Sign error on M42 motorway may mean speeding let-off - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21719322

ETA that reminded me, when people moan about unnecessary signs etc this was " the consultancy" that tries to get people off http://www.rmbconsulting.co.uk/HOME.html

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 31st May 11:26

[rxe]

I managed to have a blow out on pretty much the worst one of these - Aston Expressway. Not only is it "managed", but you're also 60 feet off the ground, so you literally have nowhere to go.

While there are undoubtedly people who deliberately drive in X'ed out lanes, I'm willing to bet that most of them are zonked out on autopilot while bimbling through the average speed zone. Cruise on, brain in neutral, not looking at anything other than vaguely at the car in front.

The AA man who dragged me off the road was scathing about the safety aspects - hated working on them, seen too many unpleasant outcomes.

[alangla]

matchmaker said:

Hard shoulder? What's a hard shoulder?

And to add to the fun, the new bit of that motorway south of the Forth Bridge has a bus lane instead of a hard shoulder! I'm amazed that there hasn't been an incident with a bus rear-ending a breakdown thus far, though it does appear to have decent CCTV coverage & I've seen the bus lane closed via the overhead gantries because a breakdown was parked on it in the past. The bus lane also appears to have a 40mph speed limit, so presumably the buses use the normal running lanes when traffic is moving freely.

[superlightr]

fatboy18 said:

Here are just a couple of the offenders
Well done Thames Water


And another Merc Vito van REG No RK62 OFN

Just two of hundreds!

did you have your hazard lights on?

[mygoldfishbowl]

superlightr said:

did you have your hazard lights on?

For goodness sake. ..

[superlightr]

mygoldfishbowl said:

superlightr said:

did you have your hazard lights on?

For goodness sake. ..

photos don't show, op doesn't say, presumption is the mother.

[fastbikes76]

superlightr said:

photos don't show, op doesn't say, presumption is the mother.

fatboy18 said:

yes and they were on, I guess the pic must have taken during the no flash bit? Both pics as well! What's the chances of that?

??

[Red Devil]

speedyguy said:

ETA that reminded me, when people moan about unnecessary signs etc this was " the consultancy" that tries to get people off http://www.rmbconsulting.co.uk/HOME.html

What you don't mention is that he used to be a police officer. Which might suggest that he has some respect for the law.
Maybe he feels that the state should play by the rules as set out and that convicting people when it doesn't is wrong.

superlightr said:

mygoldfishbowl said:

superlightr said:

did you have your hazard lights on?

For goodness sake. ..

photos don't show, op doesn't say, presumption is the mother.

Yes he does. I asked him that question (albeit in a slightly indirect manner) on page 1 and this was his response.

fatboy18 said:

Yes and they were on, I guess the pic must have taken during the no flash bit? Both pics as well! What's the chances of that?

RTFMT.

[superlightr]

Red Devil said:

RTFMT.

ok missed that in the op post.