Are Angry BiBs Really Angry While They Give You A Bollocking

Are Angry BiBs Really Angry While They Give You A Bollocking

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Tannedbaldhead

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2,952 posts

131 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Was coming home from a mountainbike trip this weekend and decided to bunny-hop a town centre dustpan-lid mini roundabout located at the foot of a steep hill. Haven't done it in years but hit the sweet spot timing perfectly my suspension compression, bounce, lift and pulling my knees up to my chin with my feet clipped to the pedals to get a good 40-50cm of fresh air between my wheels and the ground.

What I didn't realise was that behind me, right behind me was a Ford Focus Estate in full livery, blue lights etc driven my a solitary police officer. rather than ignore my minor misdemeanour the officer tugged me and "had a word". I was polite and contrite as he made me aware of the error of my ways yet he seemed genuinely angry. He got worse when I gave him my date of birth and he discovered I am 50 and even worse still when I asked him if he was really angry or just putting it on to make my ticking off that bit scarier.

So... In the cold light of day could the BiBs on forum please tell me if the angry officer giving a row is really angry or is it a act to make the perpetrator that bit more scared.

PH XKR

1,761 posts

101 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Of course our professional motorist enforcement agents are 100% professional 100% of the time and never let external events or emotions control them.

Greendubber

13,129 posts

202 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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I have no idea if he was or not as I wasnt there.

Tannedbaldhead

Original Poster:

2,952 posts

131 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Greendubber said:
I have no idea if he was or not as I wasnt there.
But you do put it on for effect, don't you?


Elroy Blue

8,686 posts

191 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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He was probably more annoyed at 'having' to deal with you. In a marked car, if he lets it go, some other person rings up and complains about Police 'doing nothing' about cyclist riding stupidly.
He wil have had other things to do, but had to stop and waste his time dealing with your silliness. He will have forgotten about it as soon as he drove off.

Greendubber

13,129 posts

202 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Tannedbaldhead said:
But you do put it on for effect, don't you?
No.

Bigends

5,412 posts

127 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Elroy Blue said:
He was probably more annoyed at 'having' to deal with you. In a marked car, if he lets it go, some other person rings up and complains about Police 'doing nothing' about cyclist riding stupidly.
He wil have had other things to do, but had to stop and waste his time dealing with your silliness. He will have forgotten about it as soon as he drove off.
Not 'wasting his time' at all - he's doing what hes paid to do - bking someone for riding like a loon. As you well know its not all robberies and rapes - little things have to be looked after as well - a two minute job to stop and have a word - then move on.

Edited by Bigends on Monday 30th May 16:36

Sheepshanks

32,535 posts

118 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Tannedbaldhead said:
.... hit the sweet spot timing perfectly my suspension compression, bounce, lift and pulling my knees up to my chin with my feet clipped to the pedals to get a good 40-50cm of fresh air between my wheels and the ground.

...I am 50
That must have been quite a sight!


Not sure you should have wound him up though - he could have done you for dangerous cycling.

thecremeegg

1,952 posts

202 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Is bunnyhopping illegal now?

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

127 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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thecremeegg said:
Is bunnyhopping illegal now?
I believe it could potentially fall under the offence of "furious or wanton cycling".
Sounds like something I'd have liked to have seen though!
I put on my angryness with kids sometimes
Never come across a 50yr old doing a bunny hop though, so can comment.

m3jappa

6,394 posts

217 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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50cm of air you say?

http://youtu.be/1PhUAUsGuu4

hehe

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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It could be 'dangerous cycling' depending on the circumstances.

Personally, I never want to get angry / raise my voice - the latter sometimes needs doing with crowds etc. It's especially ineffective with adults.

Not sure if this material is still on the training agenda, but these basic models demonstrate the cause and effect that can often occur with that sort of communication if it's inappropriate.





m3jappa said:
50cm of air you say?

http://youtu.be/1PhUAUsGuu4

hehe
Best thing MTV have ever done laugh



Reg Local

2,676 posts

207 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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One of the best pieces of advice I ever received when I first moved on to the traffic department came from an old traffic bobby with 20-odd years experience (ironically, I'm now probably olderr than he was at the time!)

He told me that if you stopped someone for a motoring offence, you should either bk them or book them, but never both.

So if I stopped someone for a bking, they got it both barrels, but my pen stayed in my pocket. But if I booked someone I would be extremely calm and polite, but the pen came out. Almost everyone I ever bked or booked thanked me before we parted ways.

It's bad form, however, to give someone a bking and then book them as well. So if you ever find yourself on the receiving end of a bking from a supposedly angry officer, just keep an eye on their hands. If there's no pen, just bite your lip and take the (probably well deserved) ticking off.

ETA it seems the swear filter is easily offended. For bking, imagine a similar word, rhyming with rollocking.

MrBarry123

6,025 posts

120 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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I would have like to have admired your little hop OP - sounds pretty epic.

hehe

Bigends

5,412 posts

127 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Reg Local said:
One of the best pieces of advice I ever received when I first moved on to the traffic department came from an old traffic bobby with 20-odd years experience (ironically, I'm now probably olderr than he was at the time!)

He told me that if you stopped someone for a motoring offence, you should either bk them or book them, but never both.

So if I stopped someone for a bking, they got it both barrels, but my pen stayed in my pocket. But if I booked someone I would be extremely calm and polite, but the pen came out. Almost everyone I ever bked or booked thanked me before we parted ways.

It's bad form, however, to give someone a bking and then book them as well. So if you ever find yourself on the receiving end of a bking from a supposedly angry officer, just keep an eye on their hands. If there's no pen, just bite your lip and take the (probably well deserved) ticking off.

ETA it seems the swear filter is easily offended. For bking, imagine a similar word, rhyming with rollocking.
Exactly this..i'd usually made my mind up whether it was a summons of bking before I got out of the car (unless things ere worse than they first appeared) - didnt generally let the 'attitude test' sway me either

PH XKR

1,761 posts

101 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Well said Reg.

Also on a side note we just bought a friend a copy of your book "how not to crash" after she crashed.


stuttgartmetal

8,108 posts

215 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Tannedbaldhead said:
He got worse when I gave him my date of birth and he discovered I am 50 and even worse still when I asked him if he was really angry or just putting it on to make my ticking off that bit scarier.

Sounds exactly like the kind of thing I do.
Full marks.

I'd have more than likely gone for the full wind up if he was Redding up in the boat race

Asked him if he got much excercise, maybe a comment about him looking a bit porky.
That'd got him going.

Most Cozzers would've given the "act you age " and piss take lifted eyebrow lecture.
Next time if he catches you again by himself offer him a tenner to let you off.
That works the old throbbing vein in the head scenario nicely.


98elise

26,377 posts

160 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Reg Local said:
One of the best pieces of advice I ever received when I first moved on to the traffic department came from an old traffic bobby with 20-odd years experience (ironically, I'm now probably olderr than he was at the time!)

He told me that if you stopped someone for a motoring offence, you should either bk them or book them, but never both.

So if I stopped someone for a bking, they got it both barrels, but my pen stayed in my pocket. But if I booked someone I would be extremely calm and polite, but the pen came out. Almost everyone I ever bked or booked thanked me before we parted ways.

It's bad form, however, to give someone a bking and then book them as well. So if you ever find yourself on the receiving end of a bking from a supposedly angry officer, just keep an eye on their hands. If there's no pen, just bite your lip and take the (probably well deserved) ticking off.

ETA it seems the swear filter is easily offended. For bking, imagine a similar word, rhyming with rollocking.
There is also a lot of scope for educating rather than bking. In my youth I was pulled 3 times for minor transgressions where the copper just took the time to expain why they had pulled me, and why I should be more careful in future.

Those stops have stuck with me, and modified my driving. In one case I've given a few people the same advice.

Derek Smith

45,514 posts

247 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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I tried never to get wound up, and succeeded on all traffic offences. If they were out of order, they generally got reported so no reason to get upset. If they weren't then I'd probably not stop them anyway, unless there was something else that made it worth while. The error could be a nice little smokescreen as to why they'd been pulled. No reason to act angry as if the person was breaking the law, then the officer has every reason to stop them.

I used to try the 'this is hurting me more than it is hurting you' pose, but after a while I realised no one gave a damn.

I'd be unhappy working beside a police officer who got 'really angry' with anyone, let alone after just a display of exuberance.


PH XKR said:
Of course our professional motorist enforcement agents are 100% professional 100% of the time and never let external events or emotions control them.
I'm sure they will appreciate the support from you.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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98elise said:
There is also a lot of scope for educating rather than bking. In my youth I was pulled 3 times for minor transgressions where the copper just took the time to expain why they had pulled me, and why I should be more careful in future.

Those stops have stuck with me, and modified my driving. In one case I've given a few people the same advice.
I agree with this. What's the purpose of challenging a minor driving transgression? It's to reduce future risk. If this can be achieved through talking and education then that is what I prefer to do.

Naturally there are those whom this is ineffective, but those people are few and far between in my experience.

PH XKR said:
Of course our professional motorist enforcement agents are 100% professional 100% of the time and never let external events or emotions control them.
It works better when the thing you're being sarcastic about doesn't apply to every human.