How best to word a PCN challenge

How best to word a PCN challenge

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greghm

440 posts

101 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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The Mad Monk said:
What does that mean?

You will steal a council rubbish bin and sell it on Ebay to get your money back, or something similar? Is that what you mean?
I will send a of twitter messages with hashtag #downwithKensingtonandchelsea create a buzz and have the European Union to fine them very hard smile

greghm

440 posts

101 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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@red Devil

I think that is where they are "right"

"* Was it in a CPZ? If so, the restrictions only need to be posted at the zone boundary not at each set of bays."

I went back to check. So this is Kensington and Chelsea. There are only Yellow Sign Posts on Kings Road but nothing on the side streets.
As can be seen below. A and B are where the yellow signs are. P is where the car was parked.


greghm

440 posts

101 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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@red devil: and yes, this is confirmed, the Traffic Warden (aka CEO) issued the fine 5 minutes after the 5 minutes period, and the car was lifted at this time. Saturday afternoon, lot of shoppers, money to be made...


herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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I'm not sure there's a 5 min. regulation, could be 5 min. grace though.

greghm

440 posts

101 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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This is called the Observation Period.

I think this is worth a read
https://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/download/file/fi...

Observation period:
An observation period is an amount of time during which a
vehicle is monitored to ensure that it is complying with the
appropriate restrictions. Observation periods are split into two
types; casual and constant.
• Casual observation takes place when a CEO notes the times
when a vehicle has been observed but does not specifically
monitor the vehicle.
• Constant observation takes place when a CEO remains at
the location and monitors the vehicle for a specified period
to establish whether a contravention is occurring.

robinessex

11,057 posts

181 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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I'd tell them you are coming to collect your car, and arrive with this:-


Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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greghm said:
@red Devil

I think that is where they are "right"

"* Was it in a CPZ? If so, the restrictions only need to be posted at the zone boundary not at each set of bays."

I went back to check. So this is Kensington and Chelsea. There are only Yellow Sign Posts on Kings Road but nothing on the side streets.
As can be seen below. A and B are where the yellow signs are. P is where the car was parked.
Ah, bad luck. frown The whole of RBKC is a single CPZ.
This means parking on a single yellow during controlled hours is prohibited.
https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/pdf/Controlled%20parking%2...
Blacklands Terrace is in the blue zone, so Saturday afternoon is a no-no.

That is why it pays to do some prior homework when visiting London.
If you had parked south of the Kings Road in, say, Turk's Row you would have been fine.
The Saturday restriction there ends at 1.30pm. The boundary between the zones is round the corner in Franklins Row.
Have a look at the other side of the sign...

greghm

440 posts

101 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Yes after a bit of reseearch I have come to realize that it will be difficult to contest this one... I will still try though as I find these tactics abusive by the council.

numtumfutunch

4,723 posts

138 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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I received a ticket from Westminster council in the mid 90's

On the back of the ticket was a few lines of legal stuff including something like:

Getting ticket = authorised to be clamped
Getting clamped = authorised to be towed

So in theory you could be ticketed, clamped and then towed in less than 5 mins if you were having a bad day

I can only assume things have got worse since then!