Boy Racers/Car modifiers....Why????
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ts seam to stick on their cars. 
wtd said:
guys he was having a laugh, why take it like a personal insult???
Thanks mate..
It does surprise me when people only want to have over serious debate on here....
I mean...we're not getting paid for spending our time visiting this site, so we might as well have some 'fun' while we're here...
Hollywood Wheels said:
Streetcop your getting old! I have a different (stainless steel don't ya know) 'zorst, a K&N air filter, and 30mm lowered suspension....
Was your post not the light hearted piss-take i took it to be then? It appears you've upset some people...
>> Edited by Hollywood Wheels on Thursday 3rd March 02:03
It was light hearted...and if people had looked into the style of the text, they'd have realised that I had cut/pasted it from an anti-chav site...for a bit of a tongue in cheek discussion.
Too many people get upset on here...
...It's about time some lightened up a bit....like the way they want the police to be when they get stopped for an offence...
Streetcop said:
guys he was having a laugh, why take it like a personal insult???
Thanks mate..
It does surprise me when people only want to have over serious debate on here....
I mean...we're not getting paid for spending our time visiting this site, so we might as well have some 'fun' while we're here...
bigger engine - check
alloys - check
wide wheels - check
lowered - check (sometimes)
bigger exhaust - check
different seats - check
body kit - check
spotlights - check
started life as something small and ordinary - check
airfilters - check
carbs - check
front cut about - check
bonnet vents - check
good job i drive it with a balaclava on
alloys - check
wide wheels - check
lowered - check (sometimes)
bigger exhaust - check
different seats - check
body kit - check
spotlights - check
started life as something small and ordinary - check
airfilters - check
carbs - check
front cut about - check
bonnet vents - check
good job i drive it with a balaclava on
bumpkin said:
good job i drive it with a balaclava on
Don't worry...there are places you can go nowadays;
www.transforminglives.co.uk/
Let us know how you go on....
...I've fitted wire mesh grille to the Chimaera ..best be off the buy the underbody neons then 
A serious point to be made though, this all really does depend on what car you start with. I'm sure BattyBugMatty would agree with me that the "Cal Look" that came out of California in the 60's for modifying VW Beetles is basically the same thing.
That consisted of lowering and dechroming your car coupled with a bigger carb and air filter and engine mods if you could afford it, Empi 5 or 8 spoke Alloy Wheels and a bigger exhaust. Plus perhaps "Towel Rail" or colour coded bumpers to go with it.
This is all nothing new, its just being done to different cars. I spent about 8 years messing about with my Beetle to re-create the "cal look", and other than avoiding the stick on plastic bits I did most of the things on SC's list.. perhaps I'm a Chav ?
Matt.
A serious point to be made though, this all really does depend on what car you start with. I'm sure BattyBugMatty would agree with me that the "Cal Look" that came out of California in the 60's for modifying VW Beetles is basically the same thing.
That consisted of lowering and dechroming your car coupled with a bigger carb and air filter and engine mods if you could afford it, Empi 5 or 8 spoke Alloy Wheels and a bigger exhaust. Plus perhaps "Towel Rail" or colour coded bumpers to go with it.
This is all nothing new, its just being done to different cars. I spent about 8 years messing about with my Beetle to re-create the "cal look", and other than avoiding the stick on plastic bits I did most of the things on SC's list.. perhaps I'm a Chav ?
Matt.
box'ing, just trying to say that this is nothing new... Go on, admit it, you bolted bits onto your Puma didn't you !? I can kind of see everyone's point of view here. And I know SC was only having a laugh, which is fair enough really.
I regard myself as a 'maxer' in that I own a car with many of the features you describe. I'm certainly not a chav, and I've never even tried on a Burberry baseball cap. I too laugh at some of the piles of dogger I see driving about, and wonder what the hell the person driving it was thinking?!
But joking aside, there's something important being discussed here. Many of these 'max'd' cars spend plenty of time in the garage having work done, and often this leads to the cars being in excellent condition. Some are driven badly, but no more so than many of the middle-aged reps and other road users that I see. And I'm sure that plenty of the cash raised as a result of these cars being legally on the road in the first place (fuel, tax, insurance), ultimately goes towards PC Plod's wages.
I think its a shame that such people get constantly shown in a bad light; this isn't helped when the police and media push such an image forward by targeting them all the time. You might be having a laugh SC, but it just serves to enfuel the views of many previously impartial people, particularly as it comes from a copper.
What really gets my goat is that many of the features of these cars that are deemed illegal, are so only out of convenience and impression, rather than actual need or even sense.
Neon lighting is frowned upon as it can be misleading or distracting to other road users and people. Sorry, but if you're mistaking a set of blue washerjet neons for a police car then you're not fit to be on the road in the first place. And as for distracting, I get distracted every time I pass a lamborghini on the road - should they be made illegal?!? Incidentally, undercar neons are perfectly legal if the tubes are fully hidden from sight. The actual glow from the light isn't illegal as its just a reflection and interpretation of colour, and that would mean you'd have to make everything of that colour illegal. Just a little tip I learned in law school, so remember that kids!
Unstandard numberplate fonts are illegal. This is sensible if the plate is truly unreadable from a fair distance, but not fair if the plate is perfectly readable but just 'in a different font'. Recognition software for camera's in easily advanced enough to take this into account, so it should do.
Foglights ARE sometime switched or left on by accident SC, it does sometimes happen! It's not as if a driver is hugely distracted when faced with oncoming foglights, and if they are then they really need their sight checking! Obviously conditions and circumstancces need consideration, but I feel a warning is probably more appropriate more often than not.
I don't mean to directly have a go at SC or anyone else, but I just believe a level of discretion and common sense needs to be used with some of the decisions the feds make. If they did that, everyone would get along a whole lot better.
Maxers don't hate police per se; they just hate the one's that don't excercise a little bit of old-fashioned common sense.
Rant over.
I regard myself as a 'maxer' in that I own a car with many of the features you describe. I'm certainly not a chav, and I've never even tried on a Burberry baseball cap. I too laugh at some of the piles of dogger I see driving about, and wonder what the hell the person driving it was thinking?!
But joking aside, there's something important being discussed here. Many of these 'max'd' cars spend plenty of time in the garage having work done, and often this leads to the cars being in excellent condition. Some are driven badly, but no more so than many of the middle-aged reps and other road users that I see. And I'm sure that plenty of the cash raised as a result of these cars being legally on the road in the first place (fuel, tax, insurance), ultimately goes towards PC Plod's wages.
I think its a shame that such people get constantly shown in a bad light; this isn't helped when the police and media push such an image forward by targeting them all the time. You might be having a laugh SC, but it just serves to enfuel the views of many previously impartial people, particularly as it comes from a copper.
What really gets my goat is that many of the features of these cars that are deemed illegal, are so only out of convenience and impression, rather than actual need or even sense.
Neon lighting is frowned upon as it can be misleading or distracting to other road users and people. Sorry, but if you're mistaking a set of blue washerjet neons for a police car then you're not fit to be on the road in the first place. And as for distracting, I get distracted every time I pass a lamborghini on the road - should they be made illegal?!? Incidentally, undercar neons are perfectly legal if the tubes are fully hidden from sight. The actual glow from the light isn't illegal as its just a reflection and interpretation of colour, and that would mean you'd have to make everything of that colour illegal. Just a little tip I learned in law school, so remember that kids!
Unstandard numberplate fonts are illegal. This is sensible if the plate is truly unreadable from a fair distance, but not fair if the plate is perfectly readable but just 'in a different font'. Recognition software for camera's in easily advanced enough to take this into account, so it should do.
Foglights ARE sometime switched or left on by accident SC, it does sometimes happen! It's not as if a driver is hugely distracted when faced with oncoming foglights, and if they are then they really need their sight checking! Obviously conditions and circumstancces need consideration, but I feel a warning is probably more appropriate more often than not.
I don't mean to directly have a go at SC or anyone else, but I just believe a level of discretion and common sense needs to be used with some of the decisions the feds make. If they did that, everyone would get along a whole lot better.
Maxers don't hate police per se; they just hate the one's that don't excercise a little bit of old-fashioned common sense.
Rant over.
fishtek69 said:
Foglights ARE sometime switched or left on by accident SC, it does sometimes happen! It's not as if a driver is hugely distracted when faced with oncoming foglights, and if they are then they really need their sight checking! Obviously conditions and circumstancces need consideration, but I feel a warning is probably more appropriate more often than not.
If it's been necessary to display front fog lights (due to severely reduced visibility)..and these have been 'forgotten'...it's a bit strange that rear fog lights were not forgotten...
ie: 95% of fog light abusers are front fog light abusers....which is down to image and the extra beam available...much to the annoyance distraction of other road users...
How annoying is it when you have a fog light abuser behind you at night?...
...some cars are especially bad...Puntos and Subarus to name just two. It's a selfish act...a kind of 'balls to everyone else'..i'm going to put them on...
As for 'warnings'? Just so the 'punter' can peese up your back when they've drove off and simply switch em back on..
...or perhaps on their next journey... Nah...cost 'em in the pocket....the memory is stimulated much better that way..
I agree about the front/rear foglight issue. It would be interesting to note how many people, when pulled for having foglights on, turn them off before the police have actually reached the car. Some may have had all their foglights on, but I guess we'll never know. I bet most people - and especially youths - rarely get the benefit of the doubt. Ultimately you're right about how people use the fronts in the wrong way, but I'm just not sure its worth 'doing' someone for it.
I find most xenon and HID lighting on cars (now standard on lots of vehicles) very annoying when behind me or oncoming, but it wouldn't cause me to say they should be banned. Punto's are terrible for it even when the fogs are switched off, as are higher-spec clio's. Manufacturers are just making lights brighter and brighter - so much so that the headlights on my mini are far brighter dipped than my foglights.
I'm not saying many people don't use their front fogs for image (they rarely make any difference to vision-improvement), but not everybody does.
In real terms I doubt foglights have much effect on the quality of other people's driving, and certainly don't distract as much as other legal factors. People smoking whilst driving - should be a jail term!!!
I guess what I'm saying is, its just a bit petty to do people for things that are quite inconsequential. If a person isn't able to cope with foglights behind them, they're probably unable to deal with other more common and more dangerous factors of modern motoring too, and therefore should re-evaluate their road-worthiness.
I find most xenon and HID lighting on cars (now standard on lots of vehicles) very annoying when behind me or oncoming, but it wouldn't cause me to say they should be banned. Punto's are terrible for it even when the fogs are switched off, as are higher-spec clio's. Manufacturers are just making lights brighter and brighter - so much so that the headlights on my mini are far brighter dipped than my foglights.
I'm not saying many people don't use their front fogs for image (they rarely make any difference to vision-improvement), but not everybody does.
In real terms I doubt foglights have much effect on the quality of other people's driving, and certainly don't distract as much as other legal factors. People smoking whilst driving - should be a jail term!!!
I guess what I'm saying is, its just a bit petty to do people for things that are quite inconsequential. If a person isn't able to cope with foglights behind them, they're probably unable to deal with other more common and more dangerous factors of modern motoring too, and therefore should re-evaluate their road-worthiness.
fishtek69 said:
I agree about the front/rear foglight issue. It would be interesting to note how many people, when pulled for having foglights on, turn them off before the police have actually reached the car.
Does happen often...
Also, when they see a police car...they switch 'em off...sometimes amazingly quickly...
...They must drive around with it at the back of their mind all the time...I guess most people adapt their factors of driving when around the police though. I'd regard myself as a spirited but cautious driver, yet the cautious side of me comes through even stronger when there's a fedmobile about. My car's perfectly legal, I'm not breaking any laws or behaving recklessly, and yet I feel the need to drive like I'm doing a driving test. Human nature shining through.
So if you noticed a car behind you with its fogs on unneccesarily, and pulled it over, would you walk to the back of the car first to check they also had rear fogs on, just in case they were? If the car did have rear fogs on - and argued that conditions were previously such as to warrant the use of these lights - would you let them be on their way or still fine them regardless?
So if you noticed a car behind you with its fogs on unneccesarily, and pulled it over, would you walk to the back of the car first to check they also had rear fogs on, just in case they were? If the car did have rear fogs on - and argued that conditions were previously such as to warrant the use of these lights - would you let them be on their way or still fine them regardless?
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