Seat Leon 154mph A11
Discussion
agtlaw said:
Yes, I'm sure that you've posted some nonsense about 56 day maximum and 120 days.
Source ?As far as I was aware, lifetime bans were available for the most serious offenses such as Death by Dangerous Driving, but were not given for the offense of speeding. Or are you saying that a lifetime ban is in theory available, although not recommended by sentencing guidelines ?
Fr0dders said:
agtlaw said:
Yes, I'm sure that you've posted some nonsense about 56 day maximum and 120 days.
Source ?As far as I was aware, lifetime bans were available for the most serious offenses such as Death by Dangerous Driving, but were not given for the offense of speeding. Or are you saying that a lifetime ban is in theory available, although not recommended by sentencing guidelines ?
Your awareness level is poor. It isn't a theory.
agtlaw said:
Fr0dders said:
agtlaw said:
Yes, I'm sure that you've posted some nonsense about 56 day maximum and 120 days.
Source ?As far as I was aware, lifetime bans were available for the most serious offenses such as Death by Dangerous Driving, but were not given for the offense of speeding. Or are you saying that a lifetime ban is in theory available, although not recommended by sentencing guidelines ?
Your awareness level is poor. It isn't a theory.
agtlaw said:
Fr0dders said:
agtlaw said:
Yes, I'm sure that you've posted some nonsense about 56 day maximum and 120 days.
Source ?As far as I was aware, lifetime bans were available for the most serious offenses such as Death by Dangerous Driving, but were not given for the offense of speeding. Or are you saying that a lifetime ban is in theory available, although not recommended by sentencing guidelines ?
Your awareness level is poor. It isn't a theory.
I'm wondering how the court thought that a 56 day ban was "fit". I'm wondering how anyone would think that fit.
Maybe the charge(s) should have been different in the first place.
It is of course a matter of opinion and maybe they were subjected to a skilled negotiator on behalf of the defendant.
Puddenchucker said:
agtlaw said:
I might have read somewhere, that he was stopped at the roadside. If so that was never an option.
Correct, he was stopped at the time.http://www.edp24.co.uk/motoring/seat_driver_caught...
Rusty569 said:
Puddenchucker said:
agtlaw said:
I might have read somewhere, that he was stopped at the roadside. If so that was never an option.
Correct, he was stopped at the time.http://www.edp24.co.uk/motoring/seat_driver_caught...
WJNB said:
PlayFair said:
A medal for getting a SEAT Leon to do 154mph....
How embarrassing knowing the world now knows you drive a SEAT. Achieving 145mph does NOT re-instate credibility. Better buy a BENCH GT or a SOFA de-luxe with folding 'arm' rests.
The guy was a bit daft doing that speed, but no one got hurt and he got prosecuted.
Now we have a police commissioner telling us because his c0ck works the guy should have been locked up and others getting just as upset at the leniency of the sentence as they did over Stuart Hall getting just 15 months for having sex with a 9 year old.
Only in the UK could so many bell ends demonise a speeder as much as a paedophile!
Won't matter soon as there won't be a single bit of road that isn't full or covered in variable speed limits backed up with speed cameras (monetised motorway) as the government and do gooders aim to undo 250 years of technological revolution and deliberately lengthen journey times to the point where no one will bother any more as the country hurtles towards bankruptcy anyway!
Now we have a police commissioner telling us because his c0ck works the guy should have been locked up and others getting just as upset at the leniency of the sentence as they did over Stuart Hall getting just 15 months for having sex with a 9 year old.
Only in the UK could so many bell ends demonise a speeder as much as a paedophile!
Won't matter soon as there won't be a single bit of road that isn't full or covered in variable speed limits backed up with speed cameras (monetised motorway) as the government and do gooders aim to undo 250 years of technological revolution and deliberately lengthen journey times to the point where no one will bother any more as the country hurtles towards bankruptcy anyway!
agtlaw said:
See s. 34(2) Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988.
Your awareness level is poor. It isn't a theory.
Why do you have to come across like such a **** ?Your awareness level is poor. It isn't a theory.
So we'\re back to what I suggested whereby the magistrate has in theory the legal power to ban for lifetime, but never will as its outside what the sentencing council recommends and magistrates will rarely if ever exceed what's recommended.
No, that isn't right, it still isn't a theory and clearly you don't understand the process.
Parliament determines the maximum sentence for an offence. Some offences also have a minimum sentence.
The Sentencing Council issues guidelines for sentencers to follow within those parameters. Unless contrary to the interests of justice then the court must follow any relevant guideline.
Parliament has determined that the maximum sentence for speeding is a £2500 fine for motorway offences, or a £1000 fine in other cases. There is also a discretionary disqualification from driving - "for such period as the court thinks fit."
Whilst there is a Sentencing Council guideline for speeding, the guideline does not include a category range for speeds in excess of 110 mph and even if there were one then there is no duty on the court to impose a sentence within the category range.
Parliament determines the maximum sentence for an offence. Some offences also have a minimum sentence.
The Sentencing Council issues guidelines for sentencers to follow within those parameters. Unless contrary to the interests of justice then the court must follow any relevant guideline.
Parliament has determined that the maximum sentence for speeding is a £2500 fine for motorway offences, or a £1000 fine in other cases. There is also a discretionary disqualification from driving - "for such period as the court thinks fit."
Whilst there is a Sentencing Council guideline for speeding, the guideline does not include a category range for speeds in excess of 110 mph and even if there were one then there is no duty on the court to impose a sentence within the category range.
Edited by agtlaw on Wednesday 3rd August 09:04
My understanding is that this wasn't a Seat Cupra, but a modified mk 2 FR. So yet again we have journalists simply copying each other without any level of professionalism. Actually checking the facts before publishing a story would be refreshing.
That's all I take away from this story.
That's all I take away from this story.
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