Seat Leon 154mph A11

[davepoth]

heebeegeetee said:

I'm still not aware of having been on a 4-lane autobahn, unless it was a multi-lane junction / xroads of major autobahn type thing.

I went all around Germany on a trip and I agree most of it felt like dual carriageway - some of the parts in the east were definitely a bit old-school. No cobbles though!

[Zombie]

Out of interest, anyone know if a person has been prosecuted after boasting on social media (forums not base fook) about doing sill speeds on Uk roads?

[Red Devil]

Found a video of the 4 lane section of the A5 near Frankfurt that I mentioned earlier.
See @ 3:46 where the car is passing the coach - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O89UWHnFUl0#
The striking thing is how little traffic there is compared with most UK motorways.

[ModernAndy]

Zombie said:

Out of interest, anyone know if a person has been prosecuted after boasting on social media (forums not base fook) about doing sill speeds on Uk roads?

Would this be without other evidence such as video? There's plenty of examples if it's just been found out because they've boasted about it.

[Ken Figenus]

Red Devil said:

The striking thing is how little traffic there is compared with most UK motorways.

I can assure you that the A5 by Frankfurt was nothing like that last week and in this century! Loads of traffic. Had an Audi A4 lock all 4 wheels behind me at 110mph... I too wanted to get past the car in front but he was giving it johhny big balls in his 2L Diesel tailgaiting...

TBH I find that extreme straight line maxing stuff all a bit pointless - for me there is so little fun or reward v that risk.

[chippy348]

Speeding a factor in only 5% of all road accidents

[vonhosen]

chippy348 said:

Speeding a factor in only 5% of all road accidents

That's a lot of accidents & it's a higher percentage in the more serious accidents

[chippy348]

vonhosen said:

That's a lot of accidents & it's a higher percentage in the more serious accidents

Yes but a driver failing to look properly causes 44% of the accidents but you dont see the plod/ council, gov putting any effort that, all the efforts go into speed control, maybe because it's good money maker?

[pinchmeimdreamin]

chippy348 said:

Yes but a driver failing to look properly causes 44% of the accidents but you dont see the plod/ council, gov putting any effort that, all the efforts go into speed control, maybe because it's good money maker?

Did somebody buy you a book of statistics for your birthday ?

[chippy348]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Did somebody buy you a book of statistics for your birthday ?

Go on then i will bite

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-set...

[vonhosen]

chippy348 said:

vonhosen said:

That's a lot of accidents & it's a higher percentage in the more serious accidents

Yes but a driver failing to look properly causes 44% of the accidents but you dont see the plod/ council, gov putting any effort that, all the efforts go into speed control, maybe because it's good money maker?

It's definitely easier to spot people speeding so they are more likely to get identified (& speeding figures higher than a lot of other things like drink/drive etc), have you some good cost effective suggestions for identifying & dealing with those who don't look properly.

[EU_Foreigner]

Punishment after the event like with any other "crime".

[vonhosen]

EU_Foreigner said:

Punishment after the event like with any other "crime".

Gaining the evidence to punish after the event isn't easy for failing to look.

[EU_Foreigner]

vonhosen said:

EU_Foreigner said:

Punishment after the event like with any other "crime".

Gaining the evidence to punish after the event isn't easy for failing to look.

There is an accident, in most cases it is not difficult to determine who was at fault and why, so perhaps an automatic fine / points for causing an accident has a bigger impact on driving standards than just the hike in insurance premiums (or none in the case of hit and run where generally no action is taken against the person doing that).

[tapereel]

EU_Foreigner said:

Punishment after the event like with any other "crime".

Sorted

Road traffic act 1988
Driving offences
1. Causing death by dangerous driving.
2. Dangerous driving.
2A. Meaning of dangerous driving.
2B.Causing death by careless, or inconsiderate, driving
3. Careless, and inconsiderate, driving.
3ZA.Meaning of careless, or inconsiderate, driving
3ZB.Causing death by driving: unlicensed, disqualified or uninsured drivers
3A. Causing death by careless driving when under influence of drink or drugs.

[vonhosen]

EU_Foreigner said:

vonhosen said:

EU_Foreigner said:

Punishment after the event like with any other "crime".

Gaining the evidence to punish after the event isn't easy for failing to look.

There is an accident, in most cases it is not difficult to determine who was at fault and why, so perhaps an automatic fine / points for causing an accident has a bigger impact on driving standards than just the hike in insurance premiums (or none in the case of hit and run where generally no action is taken against the person doing that).

There's no offence of having an accident. Even 'if' you can provide evidence that they didn't see that doesn't mean they didn't look & satisfy the legal requirement to do so. They could, for instance, have fallen victim of the physiological limitations of the human body & suffered from saccadic masking.

It's not at all proactive either.