110 mph on motorway

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techmoan

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123 posts

103 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Was a tad silly over the weekend and got caught at 110 on the M27 in the 4 lane section at Rownhams at 23:45. Plod were parked up on the ramp on the side of the motorway with a laser out the window. Impossible to see them until last min.

Not after lectures etc as I know I was wrong and fully hold my hands up.

Just wondering what I am likely to be facing? I understand a band B fine and 6 points or a ban between 7 and 54 days.

Do insurance companies penalize you more for 6 points or having a ban? Trying to work out what might be a better option for me.

snorky782

1,115 posts

99 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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techmoan said:
Was a tad silly over the weekend and got caught at 110 on the M27 in the 4 lane section at Rownhams at 23:45. Plod were parked up on the ramp on the side of the motorway with a laser out the window. Impossible to see them until last min.

Not after lectures etc as I know I was wrong and fully hold my hands up.

Just wondering what I am likely to be facing? I understand a band B fine and 6 points or a ban between 7 and 54 days.

Do insurance companies penalize you more for 6 points or having a ban? Trying to work out what might be a better option for me.
You don't get to choose your punishment

techmoan

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123 posts

103 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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snorky782 said:
You don't get to choose your punishment
Didn't say I did get to choose. Trying to work out what would be a better options. I have quite good mitigating circs I could put forward that would probably avoid a ban but wondering if a week or so ban might be better. No points hanging over your head but not sure if insurance companies penalize more for 6 points or a ban.

kiethton

13,892 posts

180 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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In a similar boat - had summons drop for 109/motorway drop yesterday

Have previously run the insurance calc's - 6 points +£60pa ban 2 week ban +£80pa

768

13,662 posts

96 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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snorky782 said:
You don't get to choose your punishment

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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snorky782 said:
You don't get to choose your punishment
Really helpful, perhaps you should tell that to Max Mosley.

snorky782

1,115 posts

99 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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What was wrong with me saying that? The OP reads like he wants to pick his punishment and his second one still seems to read the same way

Instead of berating me for passing what was a valid comment, why don't you all post some advice yourselves?

techmoan

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123 posts

103 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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snorky782 said:
What was wrong with me saying that? The OP reads like he wants to pick his punishment and his second one still seems to read the same way

Instead of berating me for passing what was a valid comment, why don't you all post some advice yourselves?
I can in a way choose my punishment

1) Plead guilty and receive points or a ban (Mags decision)
2) Plead guilty with mitigating circumstances - More likely to receive points although still could receive a ban.

Have anyone had a similar conviction and able to post what their sentence was?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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techmoan said:
I can in a way choose my punishment

1) Plead guilty and receive points or a ban (Mags decision)
2) Plead guilty with mitigating circumstances - More likely to receive points although still could receive a ban.

Have anyone had a similar conviction and able to post what their sentence was?
I got a 3 month ban for 118 in Scotland on a clear motorway a few years ago.


grumpy52

5,572 posts

166 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Am I wrong in thinking that many courts issue automatic bans for anything 30mph over any limit .
It certainly was the last time that I stood in front of the bench (59 in a 30).

fatjon

2,183 posts

213 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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techmoan said:
snorky782 said:
You don't get to choose your punishment
Didn't say I did get to choose. Trying to work out what would be a better options. I have quite good mitigating circs I could put forward that would probably avoid a ban but wondering if a week or so ban might be better. No points hanging over your head but not sure if insurance companies penalize more for 6 points or a ban.
To a large extent you do get to choose. Tell them your rich and have loads of disposable income and they will up the fine and reduce the other components. Tell them your skint and it will go the other way. Practical experience, 100+ on A38, £800 and 28 days ban.

techmoan

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Monday 11th July 2016
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desolate said:
I got a 3 month ban for 118 in Scotland on a clear motorway a few years ago.
Luckily for me the guidelines for 110 in the UK is 6 points or a ban between 7 and 56 days. The guidelines only go up to 110mph so just made it.

agtlaw

6,702 posts

206 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Note the word guideline. 56 days isn't a maximum.

GreatGranny

9,124 posts

226 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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What would be the mitigating circumstances if you went that route?

techmoan

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123 posts

103 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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agtlaw said:
Note the word guideline. 56 days isn't a maximum.
True but for a first time offender pleading guilty, open street lit motorway and no other traffic I really don't think they will issue 54 days plus.

qska

449 posts

129 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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GreatGranny said:
What would be the mitigating circumstances if you went that route?
I bet it's trying to test the extent of motion blur on a dash cam wink

Plus the GPS speedo accuracy wink

techmoan

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123 posts

103 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Mitigating circs would be that I am a carer for my Grandad and need to visit every day after work as he suffers from parkinsons and early dementia. There is no public transport available. Also my employer is a new start up business, We have 1 MD and 1 sales guy. I am the only technical employee. If I was banned the business would not be able to function and out clients would also struggle to function without my support. Again no public transport available.

To put mitigating circs forward you need to demonstrate how you not being able to drive will affect other people. Mags don't care how it affects yourself.

agtlaw

6,702 posts

206 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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techmoan said:
agtlaw said:
Note the word guideline. 56 days isn't a maximum.
True but for a first time offender pleading guilty, open street lit motorway and no other traffic I really don't think they will issue 54 days plus.
56.

agtlaw

6,702 posts

206 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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techmoan said:
Mitigating circs would be that I am a carer for my Grandad and need to visit every day after work as he suffers from parkinsons and early dementia. There is no public transport available. Also my employer is a new start up business, We have 1 MD and 1 sales guy. I am the only technical employee. If I was banned the business would not be able to function and out clients would also struggle to function without my support. Again no public transport available.

To put mitigating circs forward you need to demonstrate how you not being able to drive will affect other people. Mags don't care how it affects yourself.
You're confusing mitigating circumstances with mitigation.

Mitigating circumstances applies to offenders liable for a penalty point / totting up disqualification.

The last paragraph is completely wrong in any event.

techmoan

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123 posts

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Monday 11th July 2016
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agtlaw said:
You're confusing mitigating circumstances with mitigation.

Mitigating circumstances applies to offenders liable for a penalty point / totting up disqualification.

The last paragraph is completely wrong in any event.
Ok can you offer advice on best way to proceed? Do I put those points as mitigation when at court? Any tips on what circumstances mags are likely to take into account?