110 mph on motorway
Discussion
techmoan said:
Mitigating circs would be that I am a carer for my Grandad and need to visit every day after work as he suffers from parkinsons and early dementia.
I'm not a lawyer type, but I'd have thought that mitigating circumstances are more to do with WHY you were naughty, rather than what will happen when you get the X or Y punishment.Anyway, good luck. Hope you'll get out of it unscathed.
I learned my lesson after the course
Sorry it's mob rule here.
A lot of posters who don't run their own threads but enjoy kicking people in theirs.
As said sound contrite, you realise it was wrong and lucky no one died. Don't hang on low traffic or conditions as they only make it worst if it's wet.You have learnt your lesson.
As said not sure what you mitigating circs are, but best see a solicitor if that's your route.
Exceptional hardship is when you losing your licence will cause undue hardship to someone other than yourself in, lose you job and home for wife and kids.
Could get a fine £500/£1000 fine and short ban less than 56 days, or maybe a 3-6 month ban with lower fine.
It will depend on current endorsements in license, if any.
If there any good posters like agt law left they may put up sentcing guidelines.
Quick look at them seems for show 6 points or 7-56 day Ban for 101-110. Band b fine 75-125% of weekly income.
You the techmaon you tube guy?
A lot of posters who don't run their own threads but enjoy kicking people in theirs.
As said sound contrite, you realise it was wrong and lucky no one died. Don't hang on low traffic or conditions as they only make it worst if it's wet.You have learnt your lesson.
As said not sure what you mitigating circs are, but best see a solicitor if that's your route.
Exceptional hardship is when you losing your licence will cause undue hardship to someone other than yourself in, lose you job and home for wife and kids.
Could get a fine £500/£1000 fine and short ban less than 56 days, or maybe a 3-6 month ban with lower fine.
It will depend on current endorsements in license, if any.
If there any good posters like agt law left they may put up sentcing guidelines.
Quick look at them seems for show 6 points or 7-56 day Ban for 101-110. Band b fine 75-125% of weekly income.
You the techmaon you tube guy?
La Liga said:
I never understand why people don't keep it below the FPN threshold (is it >97 MPH these days?). It's still pretty quick.
People often don't have think consciously about their speed, they will just be making good progress compared to other traffic and that's that.If the op was caught at 110 on a gun his speedo would of been reading 115 plus' I would guess.
kiethton said:
papa3 said:
Some time back I was stopped at 109mph on the M40 near Thame. 6 points and £140 fine, thought I'd won a prize.
Now that's a result!Now that's a result!
bad company said:
I was stopped at 99 in a 60 limit some years ago. Was told can't issue a FPN as too fast etc., so it will be a Court summons. Never heard a thing.
Now that's a result!
I once overtook an unmarked VXR doing 130 with near on 160 on my clock. Blue lights came on, I thought " Oh well, that's a bit of a nuisance", and coasted down to 70 odd. He pulled alongside, shouting and waving his fist at me, and then drove off. Turns out there was a vehicle related shooting incident in the area at that time, where the shooter had driven off. The copper was unaccompanied and must have been involved in the response to that incident.Now that's a result!
Now that's a result!
Been banned twice for "biggish" speed. First was 103 in a 50 - 7 days ban. Tiny fine. Next time was 118 in a 60. 90 days ban. 100 fine no points. Probably made it worse for myself taking a brief along to court and the fact I was appearing after a load of migrants whom seemingly lost the ability to speak English. Magistrate was steaming by the time I appeared, so in reality you are at the mercy of how they are feeling on the day (the first time I got them on a good day). Be contrite, don't try and be too clever and don't use spurious excuses. They may well think taxis are appropriate to visit relatives, or they might take pity on you. Be smart, don't turn up in work attire and treat the court with respect. Good luck, personally too much sentencing latitude is a bad thing.
surveyor_101 said:
La Liga said:
I never understand why people don't keep it below the FPN threshold (is it >97 MPH these days?). It's still pretty quick.
People often don't have think consciously about their speed, they will just be making good progress compared to other traffic and that's that.If the op was caught at 110 on a gun his speedo would of been reading 115 plus' I would guess.
techmoan said:
Mitigating circs would be that I am a carer for my Grandad and need to visit every day after work as he suffers from parkinsons and early dementia. There is no public transport available. Also my employer is a new start up business, We have 1 MD and 1 sales guy. I am the only technical employee. If I was banned the business would not be able to function and out clients would also struggle to function without my support. Again no public transport available.
Not trolling but I wonder how much the Mags sympathise with this sort of exceptional hardship tactic. I mean - none of the above weighed heavily on your mind when you did over a ton, and most people are aware that getting caught at three figures a ban is a very real possibility. It seems incongruous to claim that the world would end if you got banned, when it obviously wasn't a factor you really honestly cared about before being caught? agtlaw - any thoughts?
(Again not judging you specifically OP)
Edited by Durzel on Monday 11th July 20:22
Tiggsy said:
Over 100 you arent making progress - you are WELL aware you are shifting. If you adopt the "i wont go over 95" approach to avoid stuff like this - you'd not end up at 110mph without being aware.
You don't get auto court appearance but even 95 can get you into bother. Last time I was stopped on motorway was 89mph from a gantry with hand held gun, I thought they were filming a new series of Jeremy beadle, or I was being punked.They did FPN but I thought it was a bit much, must of been very slim pickings that day.
It's not just speed in the Op's case it's most likely been stopped before for anti social driving, marker on the car for possible section 59. Then if a road policing officer says you are bullying traffic, chances are he was tailgating and showing signs of impatience, booting from car to car and people were feeling the need to get out of his way, due to the manor of driving.
Edited by surveyor_101 on Monday 11th July 20:29
Durzel said:
Not trolling but I wonder how much the Mags sympathise with this sort of exceptional hardship tactic. I mean - none of the above weighed heavily on your mind when you did over a ton, and most people are aware that getting caught at three figures a ban is a very real possibility.
It seems incongruous to claim that the world would end if you got banned, when it obviously wasn't a factor you really honestly cared about before being caught? agtlaw - any thoughts?
(Again not judging you specifically OP)
Yes got me out of a 6 months totting up ban, got 21 days.It seems incongruous to claim that the world would end if you got banned, when it obviously wasn't a factor you really honestly cared about before being caught? agtlaw - any thoughts?
(Again not judging you specifically OP)
Edited by Durzel on Monday 11th July 20:22
So yes they look at if presented in the correct manor. The only issue is do they know what there doing. In Exeter traffic court I got the impression the didn't and solicitor/legal advisor spoke to the jps like children when explaining that EH might apply in my case and how they could apply it if they decided to.
I am big believer in references from employers and suited and booted. Key is you realise you were plonker and won't do it again speech. Bare in my they are mostly ex teachers and public servants etc and have never had a late library book.
Edited by surveyor_101 on Monday 11th July 20:36
Edited by surveyor_101 on Monday 11th July 20:59
Magistrates vary. I'd always suggest you turn up at court. In some cases benches don't like kicking someone when they are in front of them. They are, after all, only human. It depends on how you come across. They'll expect you to be sorry, they've heard it all before, so it is a case of presentation rather than words.
I've sat in courts waiting for my turn and someone who appears genuinely contrite and has an explanation normally generates a response.
The only excuse I've heard that seemed to work well was the chap who said his car had conked out and he'd borrowed a friend's which was much newer than his and was so quiet that he didn't really realise the speed, that sort of thing. He was asked if he knew where the speedo was and he agreed. However, 'I didn't think I was that far over the limit. I thought I was driving so well.' He admitted to thinking he was doing 80, at which speed his car would have been all over the road. Probably.
This was mitigation as to the circumstances of the incident, which is an important difference to hardship. It had the smell of legal advice. I'm sure it was a load of old stuff, but the magistrates dropped it, they said, to a punishment suitable for someone doing 90mph (his was 110mph).
But the mitigation needs to be specific. And don't smile when you are saying it.
I've sat in courts waiting for my turn and someone who appears genuinely contrite and has an explanation normally generates a response.
The only excuse I've heard that seemed to work well was the chap who said his car had conked out and he'd borrowed a friend's which was much newer than his and was so quiet that he didn't really realise the speed, that sort of thing. He was asked if he knew where the speedo was and he agreed. However, 'I didn't think I was that far over the limit. I thought I was driving so well.' He admitted to thinking he was doing 80, at which speed his car would have been all over the road. Probably.
This was mitigation as to the circumstances of the incident, which is an important difference to hardship. It had the smell of legal advice. I'm sure it was a load of old stuff, but the magistrates dropped it, they said, to a punishment suitable for someone doing 90mph (his was 110mph).
But the mitigation needs to be specific. And don't smile when you are saying it.
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