110 mph on motorway

[surveyor_101]

bad company said:

Nooooooooooo, don't do it.

Even if you keep it less the 25 over the limit in national and 70s you will find it much less painful when court.

Then if you get 2/3 offences in a 3 year period stop digging then.

[Chainsaw Rebuild]

I can't help but think it's all a bit silly. I'm sure we have all done 100mph plus when conditions allow, perhaps in Germany.

It can be perfectly safe and yet apparently it carries a huge ban/fine/doom.

Edited by Chainsaw Rebuild on Wednesday 13th July 11:48

[snorky782]

Chainsaw Rebuild said:

I can't help but think it's all a bit silly. I'm sure we have all done 10mph plus when conditions allow, perhaps in Germany.

It can be perfectly safe and yet apparently it carries a huge ban/fine/doom.

I drive at more than 10mph everywhere, no huge ban / fine / doom here.

[Chainsaw Rebuild]

snorky782 said:

Chainsaw Rebuild said:

I can't help but think it's all a bit silly. I'm sure we have all done 10mph plus when conditions allow, perhaps in Germany.

It can be perfectly safe and yet apparently it carries a huge ban/fine/doom.

I drive at more than 10mph everywhere, no huge ban / fine / doom here.

Oh pants, I'm just off to edit that lol.

[surveyor_101]

Chainsaw Rebuild said:

I can't help but think it's all a bit silly. I'm sure we have all done 100mph plus when conditions allow, perhaps in Germany.

It can be perfectly safe and yet apparently it carries a huge ban/fine/doom.

Edited by Chainsaw Rebuild on Wednesday 13th July 11:48

Not that simple, they have higher standards of driving test and car maintenance.

They don't have a Motorway network jammed with middle lane hoggers, and ranger rovers /discoverys trying go everywhere at 110 plus whilst on snapchat and stuffed up the tail on the one in front.

Then their culture is one of they have winter tyres and keep the tyres in good condition and over 3mm of tread.

Here most people by big wheels wrap them in budgets and drive till there told by police or mot tester to chnage them.

How many cars do I see the mot history fails on tyres below 1.6mm for gods sake it really grinds my gears.

There motorways are built for it and they have rapid helicopter amubulances rather than shoe string air ambulances that rely on charity to operate.

So whilst it's a nice is for those who take our cars and driving seriously I can't see it working without a massive culture change.

[The Surveyor]

surveyor_101 said:

Because any dependants have little or no influence on the actions of the driver/primary bread winner.

You need to focus more on the driver having responsibilities to those dependants I think. Its their actions which leave those dependants (whether they are family or work related) exposed to hardship not the courts fault for issuing a resulting punishment. As in, when you have more to lose you need to be a little more sensible.

[Pete317]

surveyor_101 said:

Chainsaw Rebuild said:

I can't help but think it's all a bit silly. I'm sure we have all done 100mph plus when conditions allow, perhaps in Germany.

It can be perfectly safe and yet apparently it carries a huge ban/fine/doom.

Edited by Chainsaw Rebuild on Wednesday 13th July 11:48

Not that simple, they have higher standards of driving test and car maintenance.

They don't have a Motorway network jammed with middle lane hoggers, and ranger rovers /discoverys trying go everywhere at 110 plus whilst on snapchat and stuffed up the tail on the one in front.

Then their culture is one of they have winter tyres and keep the tyres in good condition and over 3mm of tread.

Here most people by big wheels wrap them in budgets and drive till there told by police or mot tester to chnage them.

How many cars do I see the mot history fails on tyres below 1.6mm for gods sake it really grinds my gears.

There motorways are built for it and they have rapid helicopter amubulances rather than shoe string air ambulances that rely on charity to operate.

So whilst it's a nice is for those who take our cars and driving seriously I can't see it working without a massive culture change.

I believe you missed the bit which says, "when conditions allow"

[spookly]

bad company said:

spookly said:

This thread is almost convincing me to slow down a bit.... almost.

Nooooooooooo, don't do it.

Yeah, I won't actually do it unless I rack up 6+ points.

But staying under 96 might be a good plan from the sounds of the sentencing guidelines.

[TOV!E]

snorky782 said:

What was wrong with me saying that? The OP reads like he wants to pick his punishment and his second one still seems to read the same way

Instead of berating me for passing what was a valid comment, why don't you all post some advice yourselves?

Its tosers like you that make this site unbearable sometimes

[DRFC1879]

Having skimmed this thread, my experience as below:

got a bit carried away after Donny Rovers won in the last couple of minutes at Ipswich 7 years ago and was clocked at 104 on the A14 (70 limit DC).

Summonsed to Bury St. Edmunds Mags and genuinely never received the first court date, only a letter saying my case had been adjourned with a new date on it. Thought "st, this looks like I just ignored the summons" so immediately got on the blower to the clerk of the court. I wrote to him explaining the circumstances and that I wouldn't be so disrespectful as to ignore a court letter (I lived in a new build apartment block at the time so it probably went in someone else's external post box).

Anyway, I turned up on the new date suited and booted, sat with a bunch of habitual shoplifters, thieves and assorted toe-rags in the waiting room for ages. I didn't get the means testing document which would have been with the original summons so I hastily filled one in there and then.

Walked in, held my hands up, stated that I was newly married looking to start a family. Lengthy ban would cost my job etc. I had four days' annual leave to book and could have a week off unpaid but any more would be dismissal. Said how awful an experience it was for someone who has never been in any kind of trouble to land in court and not something I ever wanted to experience again so definitely a lesson learned.

Clerk of the court suggested that mags had two options:

1. add six points to the three already on my licence leaving "the sword hanging over me".
2. Ban me.

They went and deliberated and came back saying that with the annual leave and week unpaid plus weekends in between they made it a twelve day ban and £230 fine + victim surcharge (about £30 IIRC).

I tend to use cruise control at indicated 84 these days...

[surveyor_101]

DRFC1879 said:

Having skimmed this thread, my experience as below:

got a bit carried away after Donny Rovers won in the last couple of minutes at Ipswich 7 years ago and was clocked at 104 on the A14 (70 limit DC).

Summonsed to Bury St. Edmunds Mags and genuinely never received the first court date, only a letter saying my case had been adjourned with a new date on it. Thought "st, this looks like I just ignored the summons" so immediately got on the blower to the clerk of the court. I wrote to him explaining the circumstances and that I wouldn't be so disrespectful as to ignore a court letter (I lived in a new build apartment block at the time so it probably went in someone else's external post box).

Anyway, I turned up on the new date suited and booted, sat with a bunch of habitual shoplifters, thieves and assorted toe-rags in the waiting room for ages. I didn't get the means testing document which would have been with the original summons so I hastily filled one in there and then.

Walked in, held my hands up, stated that I was newly married looking to start a family. Lengthy ban would cost my job etc. I had four days' annual leave to book and could have a week off unpaid but any more would be dismissal. Said how awful an experience it was for someone who has never been in any kind of trouble to land in court and not something I ever wanted to experience again so definitely a lesson learned.

Clerk of the court suggested that mags had two options:

1. add six points to the three already on my licence leaving "the sword hanging over me".
2. Ban me.

They went and deliberated and came back saying that with the annual leave and week unpaid plus weekends in between they made it a twelve day ban and £230 fine + victim surcharge (about £30 IIRC).

I tend to use cruise control at indicated 84 these days...

12 days, thats good going are you taxi driver by any chance?

Saw a taxi driver in court 109 in !60! got 7 day ban, told him to take a wee off and £150 fine, thought they were unduly light.

[DRFC1879]

Nope. I worked (and still do) in sales, needing to go to customers all over the country every week.

[spookly]

I know someone who drives like a complete c**t everywhere. not just fast, but often what I'd consider to be reckless.

He had 9 points on his license. Got a normal NIP through the post, responded. Got standard 3 point/£100 fine offer and paid it. Never got called to court and carried on driving with 12 points.

Lucky boy. But the way he drives it won't last long.

[snorky782]

TOV!E said:

snorky782 said:

What was wrong with me saying that? The OP reads like he wants to pick his punishment and his second one still seems to read the same way

Instead of berating me for passing what was a valid comment, why don't you all post some advice yourselves?

Its tosers like you that make this site unbearable sometimes

Why? All I said was:

snorky782 said:

You don't get to choose your punishment

If that makes things unbearable for you, then I wonder how you get out of bed every day.

Pathetic, especially calling me a tosser.

[Buster73]

Biker's Nemesis said:

I got a 2 week ban for doing 104 on the M6 by Kendal 7 years ago.

Came up there last year about 7pm on a Saturday night , road was nigh on empty so sat in the inside lane doing a steady indicated 90mph.

I was the slowest vehicle on the M6 that night !

[Aidancky]

as a follow up to your sarcastic comment on my thread, techmoan

there's big white signs on the entrance to the motorway, which mean "National Speed Limit", which are 70mph on a Motorway.

Big fan of your videos, btw.

[NicheMonkey]

techmoan said:

I can in a way choose my punishment

1) Plead guilty and receive points or a ban (Mags decision)
2) Plead guilty with mitigating circumstances - More likely to receive points although still could receive a ban.

Have anyone had a similar conviction and able to post what their sentence was?

April 2015 I got 6 points plus a hefty fine for being "followed" at 110mph on a dual carriageway. No camera or laser gun involved.

I bet you'll stick to the limit now a ban is a possibility haha really gave me a wake up call.

Edited for spelling

Edited by NicheMonkey on Thursday 21st July 08:20

[Prizam]

Got to say threads like this are an eye opener. I often drive / ride well above the speed limit.

110mph is nothing. It's not big, or clever. but i also don't feel like it makes me a criminal.

All that said, i have never had a point on my license. And i don't want too either, it makes insurance renewal time too difficult.

[Black_S3]

La Liga said:

I never understand why people don't keep it below the FPN threshold (is it >97 MPH these days?). It's still pretty quick.

Could go further and say why not under 79 (10% + 2) or further again and under 70. I don't think anyone doing + or - 110 is really that fussed about getting caught... Occupational hazard type mindset.

As for the original question - I'd always go for mitigating circumstances/hardship etc - if it's genuine... Points have never effected my insurance that much and less embarrassing than explaining a ban to any future employer if you need to use company cars etc.

Edited by Black_S3 on Thursday 21st July 14:07

[anonymous-user]

Black_S3 said:

La Liga said:

I never understand why people don't keep it below the FPN threshold (is it >97 MPH these days?). It's still pretty quick.

Could go further and say why not under 79 (10% + 2) or further again and under 70. I don't think anyone doing + or - 110 is really that fussed about getting caught... Occupational hazard type mindset.

As for the original question - I'd always go for mitigating circumstances/hardship etc - if it's genuine... Points have never effected my insurance that much and less embarrassing than explaining a ban to any future employer if you need to use company cars etc.

Yes, you could choose any threshold whether it be the enforcement one, the speed awareness one, the FPN one or the court one.

The leap from the top end range for FPN and court is quite a big one in terms of punishment potential and for those looking for the best 'speeding / punishment' balance that's probably the 'sweet spot'.