Speed Awareness Campaign

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mjdriver

Original Poster:

40 posts

231 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Hi,

I think this petition is worth signing, sounds like a right legalised piss take:-

http://www.speed-awareness.org/news.html


Mark

Retroman

968 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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I'd rather do a speed awareness course than take 3 points personally.

spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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These speed awareness things must be working, I'm aware of speed ;-)

S.D.

115 posts

127 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Retroman said:
I'd rather do a speed awareness course than take 3 points personally.
Ditto...

divetheworld

2,565 posts

135 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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The point of the organisation is stop the funding, cameras can't operate. No cameras, no points either.
I'm sure that they will just find some other way to tax us for the money to line the ex-coppers coffers.

singlecoil

33,579 posts

246 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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The police may have an incentive to catch people speeding, but that is after all what they are supposed to be doing anyway. If they can mechanise part of their law enforcement surely that means more of the dwindling numbers of police can have a go at catching serious criminals.

AIUI, you only get one chance at a SAC, it could well be considered a final warning with enough disincentive to actually work (people whose time is more valuable to them than the money fines cost will feel it particularly).

Retroman

968 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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divetheworld said:
The point of the organisation is stop the funding, cameras can't operate. No cameras, no points either.
I'm sure that they will just find some other way to tax us for the money to line the ex-coppers coffers.
Just convince all the other motorists not to break the speed limits so frequently and problem will be solved.


Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Tricky one! Been on a SAC once (36 on a 3 lane 'motorway' to merge in nicely rolleyes) it was excellent and had many points I remember from my IAM test. Bloke was a biker petrolhead and was teaching about observation, anticipation, reading the road - barely even mentioned speed (and I was like a coiled spring... smile. I gather they aren't all as positive and useful, but I even picked up a bit of business there LOL

So to me it is a form of discretion that is sadly lacking in this arena so I will tolerate the nepotism and top cops and making a killing in retirement off the back of it.

voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Retroman said:
Just convince all the other motorists not to break the speed limits so frequently and problem will be solved.
Wouldn't have to break so many if they were appropriately set.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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I managed to come out of the one I did even more annoyed than when I went in, which I didn't believe possible.

singlecoil

33,579 posts

246 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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voyds9 said:
Retroman said:
Just convince all the other motorists not to break the speed limits so frequently and problem will be solved.
Wouldn't have to break so many if they were appropriately set.
If they were set the way that suited me then I would never break any. Trouble is, there would be carnage on the roads due to the same limits applying to everybody else.



divetheworld

2,565 posts

135 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Retroman said:
Just convince all the other motorists not to break the speed limits so frequently and problem will be solved.
If only it was so simple. Historically, if people stop being caught by cameras, they just reduce the tolerances or increase surveillance where limits are inappropriate.
Now, if there was an automated enforcement system that targeted middle lane morons, thats something I'd be wholeheartedly behind.

Retroman

968 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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voyds9 said:
Wouldn't have to break so many if they were appropriately set.
Regardless of how they're set, you never need to break any. It's a choice.

singlecoil

33,579 posts

246 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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divetheworld said:
Retroman said:
Just convince all the other motorists not to break the speed limits so frequently and problem will be solved.
If only it was so simple. Historically, if people stop being caught by cameras, they just reduce the tolerances or increase surveillance where limits are inappropriate.
But they would still need to break the limits to be caught, so Retroman's point stands.

InitialDave

11,887 posts

119 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Retroman said:
I'd rather do a speed awareness course than take 3 points personally.
How is it treated by insurance companies relative to points? When I was sorting out my cover last time, the questions included whether I'd been on such a course, not just whether I had points.

WD39

20,083 posts

116 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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singlecoil said:
divetheworld said:
Retroman said:
Just convince all the other motorists not to break the speed limits so frequently and problem will be solved.
If only it was so simple. Historically, if people stop being caught by cameras, they just reduce the tolerances or increase surveillance where limits are inappropriate.
But they would still need to break the limits to be caught, so Retroman's point stands.
Why dont we all just S.dab

Pete317

1,430 posts

222 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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singlecoil said:
voyds9 said:
Retroman said:
Just convince all the other motorists not to break the speed limits so frequently and problem will be solved.
Wouldn't have to break so many if they were appropriately set.
If they were set the way that suited me then I would never break any. Trouble is, there would be carnage on the roads due to the same limits applying to everybody else.
That's what they all say wink

Pete317

1,430 posts

222 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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WD39 said:
Why dont we all just S.dab
You're nothing if not predictable rolleyes

spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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InitialDave said:
Retroman said:
I'd rather do a speed awareness course than take 3 points personally.
How is it treated by insurance companies relative to points? When I was sorting out my cover last time, the questions included whether I'd been on such a course, not just whether I had points.
Whoa... I've never been asked that. But if an awareness course would still affect my insurance then I'll take the points & fine please.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

212 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Logically, and from the safety POV, if exceeding the limit is dangerous , then driving way under is equally dangerous and such drivers should be sent on SAC courses ( IF we had cameras to enforce that & INAPPROPRIATE SPEED) . But since the only way someone driving slowly is picked up, is by Police, THEN SMALL CHANCE, as these idiots can cause accidents.