Parking Charge Fine 4 Months After Offence
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how do you get a bunch ?speedyguy said:
At least you're not a selfish hamshanker who thinks they can park anywhere and fook the landowner
In a few cases that happens but many I see are because of doctored time stamps on anpr or people visiting their local supermarket twice in one day and getting a ticket and anpr print outs the conveintly ignore the other two anpr hit showing the car leaving. One firm has been caught 3 times doing this and is till a BPA member and gets dvla data.
Parking eyes own submission did not match our tracking data for times. They had covered the 15 minutes grace period in their contract with a sticker, and they no longer had planning permission to operate the car park in the manor they were.
Pe photos of signage didn't match their site plan and Many of the signs in The photos had been removed years ago. Some photos even said on the bottom sign removed 12th Dec 2014!
Their land owner contract was on awful and not with the current owner of the land, so they lost on this point alone.
If you want to feed a fraud racket be my guest, but a fool and his money are easily parted.
Edited by surveyor_101 on Wednesday 27th July 13:54
surveyor_101 said:
speedyguy said:
At least you're not a selfish hamshanker who thinks they can park anywhere and fook the landowner
If you want to feed a fraud racket be my guest, but a fool and his money are easily
Maybe we should bring back clamping with a statutory £25 max charge ?
The issue has grown massively with the ongoing increase in technology ie anpr, which you quite rightly use (technology) to point out their errors, the serial dodgy companies should be fined or whatever and their access to DVLA records rescinded for periods with no invoices allowable during that period.
If you feel that is appropriate push for it, clamping was 'outlawed' so do the same again for parking invoices.
DCLG were looking into again after some of the remits on parking were removed from DfT.
Being tight I'm not easily parted with my cash, but I admit to being caught out parking outside a bay under railway byelaws a few years ago. Never paid a bean elsewhere in parking fines.
speedyguy
Just a long shot but i would wager your railway car park fee, was issued by a PCC and not a TOC, who are the only ones to refer to railway by laws! Section 14 is a minefield and misused quite a lot by the PPC's
See various threads on pepipoo about this scandalous way of extracting money. I think the term is not relevant land but the average joe doesn't know that and so the parking companies stay in business. What pepipoo try and do both with them and council tickets is to get them to act within the law and not what they think it means.
The ANPR scam is a good one as surveyor says, they do 'double dip' a lot, plus the fee is for parking not form entering and leaving, so if you enter and spend 10 mins, a not unreasonable time in sone cases looking for a space ,and then another 10 mins queuein to get out after parking for less that an one hour ,let say 55 mins, they will screw you for the whole 1hr 15 mins from ANPR in to ANPR out. Pepipoo get a loy of 'wins' at PPLA contesting this as the driver was not 'parked' for that time but driving looking for a space in which to park.
Just a long shot but i would wager your railway car park fee, was issued by a PCC and not a TOC, who are the only ones to refer to railway by laws! Section 14 is a minefield and misused quite a lot by the PPC's
See various threads on pepipoo about this scandalous way of extracting money. I think the term is not relevant land but the average joe doesn't know that and so the parking companies stay in business. What pepipoo try and do both with them and council tickets is to get them to act within the law and not what they think it means.
The ANPR scam is a good one as surveyor says, they do 'double dip' a lot, plus the fee is for parking not form entering and leaving, so if you enter and spend 10 mins, a not unreasonable time in sone cases looking for a space ,and then another 10 mins queuein to get out after parking for less that an one hour ,let say 55 mins, they will screw you for the whole 1hr 15 mins from ANPR in to ANPR out. Pepipoo get a loy of 'wins' at PPLA contesting this as the driver was not 'parked' for that time but driving looking for a space in which to park.
Liverpool John Lennon Airport & Doncaster Robin Hood Airport - both have Vehicle Control Services doing their enforcement for no stopping, yet they try to use POFA to hold the keeper liable, and that is not relevant land.
Part of the problem is that DVLA hand out keeper details to the police and local authorities for free, but charge the private parking companies for the same service. DVLA claim not to make a profit on this service, which on the face of it is true, as all costs of that department are supposedly covered by the PPC charges.
The biggest PPC out there is ParkingEye, who are owned by Capita, who also have a £100m contract to run the backroom IT services at the DVLA. I'm generally not one for conspiracy theories but given how ingrained Capita are with the public sector, there is likely to be a lot of internal pressure to maintain the status quo.
Part of the problem is that DVLA hand out keeper details to the police and local authorities for free, but charge the private parking companies for the same service. DVLA claim not to make a profit on this service, which on the face of it is true, as all costs of that department are supposedly covered by the PPC charges.
The biggest PPC out there is ParkingEye, who are owned by Capita, who also have a £100m contract to run the backroom IT services at the DVLA. I'm generally not one for conspiracy theories but given how ingrained Capita are with the public sector, there is likely to be a lot of internal pressure to maintain the status quo.
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