Part worn tyre blown out after 50 miles... Help
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Whilst I would never condone the use of part worn tyres the 'advice' you're getting here is, as is often the case, somewhat lacking.
The sale of PWTs is governed by The Motor Vehicle Tyres (Safety) Regulations. Sellers are required to inspect their tyres and mark them in a prescribed way to denote what they are.
The odds are that your seller was a typical cowboy who has paid no attention to those regulations; few of them do. You might try challenging him to demonstrate his inspection and labelling procedure. You might also do yourself and the rest of us a favour by reporting the guy to Trading Standards. This is an area in which they are quite active. With any luck they'll put him out of business.
There is loads of information on line, you'd be better off researching it yourself than asking for advice here. IMO.
The sale of PWTs is governed by The Motor Vehicle Tyres (Safety) Regulations. Sellers are required to inspect their tyres and mark them in a prescribed way to denote what they are.
The odds are that your seller was a typical cowboy who has paid no attention to those regulations; few of them do. You might try challenging him to demonstrate his inspection and labelling procedure. You might also do yourself and the rest of us a favour by reporting the guy to Trading Standards. This is an area in which they are quite active. With any luck they'll put him out of business.
There is loads of information on line, you'd be better off researching it yourself than asking for advice here. IMO.
Biker 1 said:
All I can say is that secondhand tyres should be banned full stop.
I can't agree with that. I don't think they're always a good idea, but I'm not a big fan of wielding the banhammer as a unilateral response. I've bought used wheels and tyres before and had no problems, sold old ones on and not had anyone say they had an issue with what they got.I deeply dislike preventing people from being allowed to do something which is not innately unsafe or problematic, when the real solution is taking a little care and using common sense.
InitialDave said:
I can't agree with that. I don't think they're always a good idea, but I'm not a big fan of wielding the banhammer as a unilateral response. I've bought used wheels and tyres before and had no problems, sold old ones on and not had anyone say they had an issue with what they got.
I deeply dislike preventing people from being allowed to do something which is not innately unsafe or problematic, when the real solution is taking a little care and using common sense.
I guess we'll disagree then. I won't do secondhand tyres as I don't know the history of them & for the tiny bit of rubber between myself & the road is an unnecessary risk. I resent others potentially crashing into me for the same reasons. I wonder how many people who can't afford new tyres have the requisite 'common sense'?I deeply dislike preventing people from being allowed to do something which is not innately unsafe or problematic, when the real solution is taking a little care and using common sense.
Sheepshanks said:
The Spruce goose said:
Lets say a partworn which is half worn is half the price, you get half the miles, no come back and no history of the tyre. Why the f
k would you buy it.
This reason, maybe?k would you buy it. bigandclever said:
Bit of a tangent, but since the OP sells used cars for a living....
Black_S3 said:
Sheepshanks said:
The Spruce goose said:
Lets say a partworn which is half worn is half the price, you get half the miles, no come back and no history of the tyre. Why the fk would you buy it.
This reason, maybe?k would you buy it. bigandclever said:
Bit of a tangent, but since the OP sells used cars for a living....
Sheepshanks said:
REALIST123 said:
You might also do yourself and the rest of us a favour by reporting the guy to Trading Standards. This is an area in which they are quite active. With any luck they'll put him out of business.
Good luck with that. Does Trading Standards still exist any more?"Illegal tyre seller sentenced
Luke McKenzie of Moss Tyres in Grantham received a nine month suspended sentence, 150 hours community service and £26,000 in fees"
As I said is an area TS are particularly active in.
93DW said:
I'm sure I'm about to be educated on my tyre buying here but here goes
Last Tuesday I had a part worn Falken fitted to my car (330ci if it helps?) and i did around 50 miles on it. I then took it out run for on Sunday morning and within 10 miles the tyre had completely blown out (see picture)
So today on my day off I went back there and the guy straight away refused to do it without even inspecting the tyre. After he'd seen it he said he'd do another one half price which I declined.
So... Where do I stand?
At the bus stop.Last Tuesday I had a part worn Falken fitted to my car (330ci if it helps?) and i did around 50 miles on it. I then took it out run for on Sunday morning and within 10 miles the tyre had completely blown out (see picture)
So today on my day off I went back there and the guy straight away refused to do it without even inspecting the tyre. After he'd seen it he said he'd do another one half price which I declined.
So... Where do I stand?
REALIST123 said:
Sheepshanks said:
REALIST123 said:
You might also do yourself and the rest of us a favour by reporting the guy to Trading Standards. This is an area in which they are quite active. With any luck they'll put him out of business.
Good luck with that. Does Trading Standards still exist any more?"Illegal tyre seller sentenced
Luke McKenzie of Moss Tyres in Grantham received a nine month suspended sentence, 150 hours community service and £26,000 in fees"
As I said is an area TS are particularly active in.
That was April last year, and it was after multiple offences. Consumers generally can't contact Trading Standards now - they have to go through Citizen's Advice. And if the OP did buy the tyre in the course of his business then he's not even a Consumer.
InitialDave said:
Biker 1 said:
All I can say is that secondhand tyres should be banned full stop.
I can't agree with that. I don't think they're always a good idea, but I'm not a big fan of wielding the banhammer as a unilateral response. I've bought used wheels and tyres before and had no problems, sold old ones on and not had anyone say they had an issue with what they got.I deeply dislike preventing people from being allowed to do something which is not innately unsafe or problematic, when the real solution is taking a little care and using common sense.
How do you know if a part-worn has been involved in a heavy shunt and has concealed damage?
WinstonWolf said:
I'd say that blowout was pretty unsafe...
How do you know if a part-worn has been involved in a heavy shunt and has concealed damage?
Same way you check the tyres on a used car you bought. Same way your MOT man checks the tyres on every car that he examines. You don't know, but you can have a damn good check and use your judgement as to whether it's safe to use.How do you know if a part-worn has been involved in a heavy shunt and has concealed damage?
Yes, the blowout was unsafe. That does not mean a used tyre is innately unsafe.
InitialDave said:
WinstonWolf said:
I'd say that blowout was pretty unsafe...
How do you know if a part-worn has been involved in a heavy shunt and has concealed damage?
Same way you check the tyres on a used car you bought. Same way your MOT man checks the tyres on every car that he examines. You don't know, but you can have a damn good check and use your judgement as to whether it's safe to use.How do you know if a part-worn has been involved in a heavy shunt and has concealed damage?
Yes, the blowout was unsafe. That does not mean a used tyre is innately unsafe.
I ran part worns when I was young and foolish, it doesn't work out any cheaper.
Biker 1 said:
I guess we'll disagree then. I won't do secondhand tyres as I don't know the history of them & for the tiny bit of rubber between myself & the road is an unnecessary risk.
So how do you deal with hire cars? Do you just never rent one because you don't know the history of the tyres. Sheepshanks said:
REALIST123 said:
Sheepshanks said:
REALIST123 said:
You might also do yourself and the rest of us a favour by reporting the guy to Trading Standards. This is an area in which they are quite active. With any luck they'll put him out of business.
Good luck with that. Does Trading Standards still exist any more?"Illegal tyre seller sentenced
Luke McKenzie of Moss Tyres in Grantham received a nine month suspended sentence, 150 hours community service and £26,000 in fees"
As I said is an area TS are particularly active in.
That was April last year, and it was after multiple offences. Consumers generally can't contact Trading Standards now - they have to go through Citizen's Advice. And if the OP did buy the tyre in the course of his business then he's not even a Consumer.
Too much stuff to post links to it all. You found it easily enough I guess.
there are a number of Tyre Industry organisations that will take these issue to TS too. That's easily researched as well.
If the earlier guess at 225/40 18 is correct, there's a FAR better solution than part-worns
I have no idea how they are doing them for the price, but Uniroyal Rainsport 3 in 225/40 18 are currently £51.35 a corner, including VAT at Camskill. I've had them on my Alfa GT for a few thousand miles and I'm very impressed with all aspects - dry grip, wet grip, handling, noise etc
I had Falken 914 fitted before, which are £10 more expensive and (IMHO) not as good.
Four brand-new major-brand tyres for £205 - absolutely no reason to go near a part-worn ever again.....
I have no idea how they are doing them for the price, but Uniroyal Rainsport 3 in 225/40 18 are currently £51.35 a corner, including VAT at Camskill. I've had them on my Alfa GT for a few thousand miles and I'm very impressed with all aspects - dry grip, wet grip, handling, noise etc
I had Falken 914 fitted before, which are £10 more expensive and (IMHO) not as good.
Four brand-new major-brand tyres for £205 - absolutely no reason to go near a part-worn ever again.....
Blimey, hold on a minute.
Apparently some 3.5 million part worns are sold in the UK each year, and afaiaa all/most have come from other European countries and from cars just the same as we drive.
For those part worn tyres to be 'probably kerbed' then our tyres on our cars right now must also be probably kerbed too, right? If not, why would the part worns be? I don't think people in other countries make a habit of driving up kerbs any more than we do.
Leaving aside the fact that we're all driving on part worns right now, every used car is sold with part worns and I've never heard of anyone insisting the tyres are removed from the rims for inspection, which would be the only to do it properly.
Has anyone here who has bought a used car even just had the car placed on a lift and examined the tyres properly themselves?
I own a small garage business and obviously we service cars daily, and we find metal detritus in tyres *all* the time, so we must all have tyres the same.
I've never bought part worns myself and I prefer a quality, branded tyre, but I don't think the arguments being raised hold water, especially the 'probably kerbed' one.
Apparently some 3.5 million part worns are sold in the UK each year, and afaiaa all/most have come from other European countries and from cars just the same as we drive.
For those part worn tyres to be 'probably kerbed' then our tyres on our cars right now must also be probably kerbed too, right? If not, why would the part worns be? I don't think people in other countries make a habit of driving up kerbs any more than we do.
Leaving aside the fact that we're all driving on part worns right now, every used car is sold with part worns and I've never heard of anyone insisting the tyres are removed from the rims for inspection, which would be the only to do it properly.
Has anyone here who has bought a used car even just had the car placed on a lift and examined the tyres properly themselves?
I own a small garage business and obviously we service cars daily, and we find metal detritus in tyres *all* the time, so we must all have tyres the same.
I've never bought part worns myself and I prefer a quality, branded tyre, but I don't think the arguments being raised hold water, especially the 'probably kerbed' one.
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