Part worn tyre blown out after 50 miles... Help

Part worn tyre blown out after 50 miles... Help

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Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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HustleRussell said:
Devil2575 said:
HustleRussell said:
That tyre could've done a decade and 50,000 miles on the rear axle of a FWD car- constant UV exposure, thousands of heat cycles, possibly under-inflated, possibly severely under-inflated... You just don't know. Part worns are generally a false economy.
As could the tyres on any used car you buy.
Which is why I inspect them prior to purchase, and on an extra regular basis thereafter, and am not entirely happy until I’ve put four matching tyres on the car myself.

A lot is being made of these situations in this thread- “What about hire cars”, “What about courtesy cars”, “do you replace the tyres as soon as you buy a car”, “What about when you have to move your mother in law’s car out of the driveway” etc etc.

It’s really very simple. Inspect your tyres. If you know what a tyre should look like and you know how to read the age of the tyre from the DOT code, and keep a routine of inspecting your tyres, then your golden.
The point is that you can do all this if you buy part worn tyres, therefore it is no different to buying a used car with worn tyres.

I always buy brand new tyres but if I buy a used car with good condition matching tyres then I wouldn't rush to replace them.

R E S T E C P

660 posts

105 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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PF62 said:
So how do you deal with hire cars? Do you just never rent one because you don't know the history of the tyres.
Devil2575 said:
it is no different to buying a used car with worn tyres.
The difference with part worn tyres is that they were removed from the car for a reason. There are very few good reasons to remove a premium tyre with plenty of tread.

Written off due to flood damage... that would be OK, but rare.
Or one tyre blew and the owner insists on having both exactly the same... Also OK, also rare.

The vast majority will be salvaged from scrapped/written off cars. No thanks.

HustleRussell

24,640 posts

160 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Devil2575 said:
The point is that you can do all this if you buy part worn tyres, therefore it is no different to buying a used car with worn tyres.

I always buy brand new tyres but if I buy a used car with good condition matching tyres then I wouldn't rush to replace them.
I wouldn't prematurely replace decent tyres which came on a used car either, provided they stood up to inspection. I disagree that this scenario is the same as fitting part worns for the reasons I outlined earlier;

HustleRussell said:
part worn tyres have been removed from a previous vehicle for reasons unknown and may or may not have been involved in an accident, abused or neglected. At least if you buy a car you can ask the seller when the tyres were fitted, whether they were part worn etc etc.
and then of course when the tyres which came on the car are done for or I decide to, I put four new matching ones on and this makes me happy. Some folk would go to the part worn tyres place and get another mismatched set of mystery tyres put on, but not me. I'm at my happiest with my car when it has four tyres which I fitted new.

TOV!E

2,016 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Bloody lucky you did not kill anybody, I hope you don't have kids and drive them about in a death trap

Sheepshanks

32,725 posts

119 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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TOV!E said:
Bloody lucky you did not kill anybody, I hope you don't have kids and drive them about in a death trap
You missed a chance to mention kittens.

Vaud

50,426 posts

155 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
TOV!E said:
Bloody lucky you did not kill anybody, I hope you don't have kids and drive them about in a death trap
You missed a chance to mention kittens.
It's context though isn't it?

A shed to rattle around a private field and do donuts... yup, sign me up to part worns.
A station car to get 2 miles to the station at 30 mph - part worns might be acceptable risk.
A BMW 330 with a fair amount of power - hmm, maybe not.
A Ferrari - erm, no.

Tyres and brakes are generally not something to skimp on, but context is everything.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Part worn tyres are removed for a good reason which is why these are regulated. It should have had a inspection label to prove it was properly checked. The problem is those regulations are not effectively Policed and so the trade attract a lot of cowboys.

Report to trading standards, mention the Motor Vehicle Tyre Safety Reg's of 1994 and they may investigate beyond that you might as well whistle.

93DW

Original Poster:

1,284 posts

103 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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For anyone thats interested,

Despite my thread being completely misconstrued, Seems a lot of you thought I wanted something for nothing?, I called Trading Standards about it explained the circumstance and he said I would have a good case in court because of the timescale but the likelihood was that the tyre place would take me round the houses to get that. To me all that leg work over a £20 tyre was not worth it.

Also nobody actually asked why I only had 1 part worn tyre fitted, This was down to an unrepairable puncture and the part worn was all that was available quickly. However as I type this i'm sat in the waiting area of my local chain having a pair of NEW Pirelli's but on the back. ( I know, I know but I saved up all me dole money m8)

So your children can all play outside safely in the knowledge that a 330ci isn't about to come skidding off the road due to the sheer power ripping through the part worns.

HustleRussell

24,640 posts

160 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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I don't think there's much to misconstrue;

Man buys cheap old tyre
Cheap old tyre turns out to be old and cheap
Buyer's remorse

was8v

1,935 posts

195 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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93DW said:
After he'd seen it he said he'd do another one half price which I declined.
I'd have taken him up on that to get me going. Life is too short.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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£20 quid for the tyre lol


TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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93DW said:
and the part worn was all that was available quickly.
Same day, possibly.
By next day? Nope, you could have got any number of new.

93DW

Original Poster:

1,284 posts

103 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
Same day, possibly.
By next day? Nope, you could have got any number of new.
Well I needed one that day. But theres 2 brand new Pirellis on there now so sleep easy treacle x

93DW

Original Poster:

1,284 posts

103 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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HustleRussell said:
I don't think there's much to misconstrue;

Man buys cheap old tyre
Cheap old tyre turns out to be old and cheap
Buyer's remorse
I wouldn't call it buyers remorse? I went back because it blew out not because I didn't want it

Sebring440

1,992 posts

96 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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93DW said:
Norris from Corrie said:
Same day, possibly.
By next day? Nope, you could have got any number of new.
Well I needed one that day. But theres 2 brand new Pirellis on there now so sleep easy treacle x
Don't worry about any opinions from Norris. That's all they are, opinions; we've all got one, and Norris's is bigger and more smelly than most.

As you've already noted, he's been on the forum for 33 months and his post count is about to pop 10,000! He switches on his PC early in the morning and sits there desperately looking for people to find fault with and demonstrate his superiority. He's the absolute definition of the 'keyboard warrior'.



m3jappa

6,414 posts

218 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Silly thing to do, for anyone else considering buying used I suggest watching this.

http://youtu.be/v1GJO5n7wxM

RWD cossie wil

4,310 posts

173 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Part worns are perfectly acceptable & no different to any other tyre, as long as you are sensible. As said, how many people buy used alloys, used cars with tyres already fitted, you simply cannot tell how good/ bad tyres mounted on rims are, at least with a part worn you can inspect it first.

For the record I only fit brand new as I have the luxury of being able to afford to do so, but some people simply cannot afford to fit brand new premium tyres to their car.

I actually had a problem with a brand new Avon about ten years ago, it developed a huge egg on the sidewall within a day of being fitted, it got replaced by the garage FOC (as it should have been!), apparently it was a manufacturing defect..... Just goes to show that you can have problems whatever you do!

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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RWD cossie wil said:
For the record I only fit brand new as I have the luxury of being able to afford to do so, but some people simply cannot afford to fit brand new premium tyres to their car.
If you can't afford decent (and I mean non-ditchfinder, not premium) tyres, you can't afford to run the car.

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
£20 quid for the tyre lol
hehe

The post above about "old and cheap" sums this whole debacle up very nicely...

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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InitialDave said:
So you didn't get the answer you want, and are going to go off in a sulk?


I don't particularly blame you for getting a part worn if this was a cheap tide-you-over job, and I think you were just unlucky this time. After all, every time you buy a used car, you're buying a set of part-worn tyres. However, I think this does demonstrate that it's perfectly reasonable for the general opinion to be that it's a false economy over buying new.
even on hack get new budgets, unless you know the history they were probably pulled off a wreck the did barrel rolls into a field at 80mph.

What you pay a corner?