Caught 106mph on M25 - What to Expect

Caught 106mph on M25 - What to Expect

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Joeguard1990

Original Poster:

1,181 posts

125 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Got a letter through the door yesterday asking to identify driver of my car which was snapped at 106mph in a 70.
Already sent it back saying it was me and I do intend to plead guilty.
I'm after advise as to what to expect and the best way to plead mitigation in court. My driving license is currently clean with no points but I am going to be honest and say that I have been convicted in the past of driving on a ban and without insurance just over 3 years ago. These are still unspent but my license currently has 0 points and all bans and points have expired.
For Those who are going to have a go at me in the comments, it was 05:44 in the morning and motorway was clear and yes I have learnt my lesson and am going to give driving a break while I concentrate on my career. I put my hands up and offer no excuses so bash me if you must...
Can I expect the normal ban and fine or will they give a heavier punishment due to my history? Can they take previous driving convictions/points/bans into account if over 3 years old? FYI this is my first speeding offence if it makes any difference.

Many Thanks

Edited by Joeguard1990 on Wednesday 27th July 01:46

MrBarry123

6,025 posts

120 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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I'm not sure anyone can give you an accurate estimate as I would guess your previous convictions mean the normal sentencing guidelines wouldn't apply.

I'd be amazed if you got away with it without a ban and a significant fine.

I'm sure someone else better qualified will be able to help though.

Joeguard1990

Original Poster:

1,181 posts

125 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Thank you for replying. As you say I am fully expecting a ban and a fine, I am just not sure what sort to expect considering my previous driving history and if it is taken into account or if there are maximum guidelines.

whoami

13,151 posts

239 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Joeguard1990 said:
Can I expect the normal ban and fine or will they give a heavier punishment due to my history?
Hopefully. You've learned nothing.

Black_S3

2,667 posts

187 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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whoami said:
Hopefully. You've learned nothing.
You're about to miss the next bandwagon.

Joeguard1990

Original Poster:

1,181 posts

125 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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whoami said:
Hopefully. You've learned nothing.
Thank you for your helpful comment, which is also incorrect. I did learn from my previous convictions and have always driven insured and licensed since... This is the first time I have been caught speeding.

hora

37,010 posts

210 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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What were you banned for previously?

Ninja59

3,691 posts

111 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Joeguard1990 said:
Thank you for your helpful comment, which is also incorrect. I did learn from my previous convictions and have always driven insured and licensed since... This is the first time I have been caught speeding.
It really does depend on what the Mag thinks of this though and whether you have actually learnt anything though with some kind of proof. Whether it is the first time or not you were caught 36 mph over the speed limit and your speedo *could* have been reading upto around 115 mph, not just a few mph over. Speeding is speeding, but it does really come down for many forces on what is a reasonable level of tolerance.

Having a previous ban as said above will likely mean any normal guidelines are pretty much out the window, and the Mag may want to make some form of example of you, but that really does hang on how convincing you are of having learnt from your previous mistakes. Which with all respect some of are not that excessively long ago.

Taking a break from driving should also help possibly on the insurance front in future as well...


g3org3y

20,606 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Were you caught by one of the HADECS cameras?

Which part of the M25 out of interest?

Henzy

125 posts

150 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Possibly less than a month ban and a fine around £1,000 depending on income.

Monty Python

4,812 posts

196 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Joeguard1990 said:
Thank you for your helpful comment, which is also incorrect. I did learn from my previous convictions and have always driven insured and licensed since... This is the first time I have been caught speeding.
First time you've been caught - does that mean that at all other times you observed the speed limits?

LunarOne

5,095 posts

136 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Monty Python said:
Joeguard1990 said:
Thank you for your helpful comment, which is also incorrect. I did learn from my previous convictions and have always driven insured and licensed since... This is the first time I have been caught speeding.
First time you've been caught - does that mean that at all other times you observed the speed limits?
How is that relevant though? It's not as if the magistrates are going to say "We know you haven't been caught, but we're going to punish you for all the times we think you were speeding and didn't get caught".



Alex

9,975 posts

283 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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I wouldn't even bother turning up. Plead guilty by post. There are no mitigating circumstances, and if you don't turn up, no need to tell them about your previous.

I'd expect a 30 day ban.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

157 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Joeguard1990 said:
I put my hands up and offer no excuses
Fair play for acting like an adult. Good luck.

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

194 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Monty Python said:
Joeguard1990 said:
Thank you for your helpful comment, which is also incorrect. I did learn from my previous convictions and have always driven insured and licensed since... This is the first time I have been caught speeding.
First time you've been caught - does that mean that at all other times you observed the speed limits?
I think this question is answered by the OP's statement "This is the first time I have been caught speeding"...

No sure how it is relevant anyway; anybody that claims they have never broken the speed limit in their entire driving history is a lying st.

Joeguard1990

Original Poster:

1,181 posts

125 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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g3org3y said:
Were you caught by one of the HADECS cameras?

Which part of the M25 out of interest?
Not sure of the means but letter said M25 anti-clockwise Clackett Lane Services. I did not see any visible camera or Police Van.

Edited by Joeguard1990 on Wednesday 27th July 10:25

Joeguard1990

Original Poster:

1,181 posts

125 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Alex said:
I wouldn't even bother turning up. Plead guilty by post. There are no mitigating circumstances, and if you don't turn up, no need to tell them about your previous.

I'd expect a 30 day ban.
I thought that if a ban was being considered you had no choice but to attend court in person?

greggy50

6,161 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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I recently got a 14 day Ban for 120mph on the M6 with self representation

I would always go to court personally a good letter of mitigation from your employer always helps!

Would expect a 7 day ban for this from my experience.

AyBee

10,522 posts

201 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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I was driving from Bristol to Essex about a month ago and the average speed of the M4 was much higher than the M25 (without traffic) with just about everyone doing bang on 70mph on the M25. There's a lot of threads about speeding on PH so do a google and see what previous advice has been given. 2 bans in under 8 years of driving (if your username is your birth year) is impressive...

whoami

13,151 posts

239 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Joeguard1990 said:
whoami said:
Hopefully. You've learned nothing.
Thank you for your helpful comment, which is also incorrect. I did learn from my previous convictions and have always driven insured and licensed since... This is the first time I have been caught speeding.
What was your ban for?