Caught 106mph on M25 - What to Expect

Caught 106mph on M25 - What to Expect

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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ZX10R NIN said:
Black_S3 said:
It's actually very relevant given the question he asked.
The speeding has nothing to do with the no insurance & as it was over 3 years ago it no longer has standing, it shows on the OP's license for another year but can't be used against him.
You seem to be confused with totting the points up.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
Vaud said:
zarjaz1991 said:
It's actually close to entrapment at times.
It isn't.
It is.

Frequent blatant abuse of the variable limit, gantries set to confuse for no valid reason, with vague and obtuse excuses for lowering the limit and being inconsistent between gantries.

Interestingly, described recently by a traffic plod as "cash traps".
I don't know if you know this, but the operator in the control centre who adjusts the speed limit upwards and downwards is actually on a commission.

(Sarcasm)

ZX10R NIN

27,598 posts

125 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
You seem to be confused with totting the points up.
I thought the same rule applied my mistake.

bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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JJ55 said:
Yes but he's not telling us what the original ban was for. The fact he's endlessly dodged the question makes me also think it's something more serious like a DUI.
We do know that he was convicted of driving without insurance. I lost any sympathy for him then.

hora

37,122 posts

211 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Speed matters? I drive up and down Snake pass in ALL weather's at weekend's and I thoroughly enjoy it. Sometimes figuring out/adapting and thinking in snow and ice it's more interesting than NSL type speeds.

I don't 'get' straight-line Charlie's who think blasting to 3 figures in a turbo diesel or whatever makes them a bloody Senna. Driving is more about bends, flow and the rest. Anyone can go FAST in a straight line. It doesn't require skill.

bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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hora said:
Speed matters? I drive up and down Snake pass in ALL weather's at weekend's and I thoroughly enjoy it. Sometimes figuring out/adapting and thinking in snow and ice it's more interesting than NSL type speeds.

I don't 'get' straight-line Charlie's who think blasting to 3 figures in a turbo diesel or whatever makes them a bloody Senna. Driving is more about bends, flow and the rest. Anyone can go FAST in a straight line. It doesn't require skill.
I tend to agree but each to their own.

Still enjoy the odd autobahn blast tho.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

109 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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hora said:
Speed matters? I drive up and down Snake pass in ALL weather's at weekend's and I thoroughly enjoy it. Sometimes figuring out/adapting and thinking in snow and ice it's more interesting than NSL type speeds.

I don't 'get' straight-line Charlie's who think blasting to 3 figures in a turbo diesel or whatever makes them a bloody Senna. Driving is more about bends, flow and the rest. Anyone can go FAST in a straight line. It doesn't require skill.
You do realise they are not mutually exclusive do you?

hora

37,122 posts

211 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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bad company said:
I tend to agree but each to their own.

Still enjoy the odd autobahn blast tho.
Me too when I'm in Germany.

pim

2,344 posts

124 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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And there is always somebody faster on the Autobahn.

Steady 85/90 is quick enough on any motorway.

Sheepshanks

32,752 posts

119 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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The Mad Monk said:
mybrainhurts said:
Vaud said:
zarjaz1991 said:
It's actually close to entrapment at times.
It isn't.
It is.

Frequent blatant abuse of the variable limit, gantries set to confuse for no valid reason, with vague and obtuse excuses for lowering the limit and being inconsistent between gantries.

Interestingly, described recently by a traffic plod as "cash traps".
I don't know if you know this, but the operator in the control centre who adjusts the speed limit upwards and downwards is actually on a commission.

(Sarcasm)
My colleague caught on the M42 at 46 when they were set for 40 just after 6AM with no reason for the reduction would agree with that. Most of the people on the speed awareness course he attended had been caught the same way.

hora

37,122 posts

211 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
My colleague caught on the M42 at 46 when they were set for 40 just after 6AM with no reason for the reduction would agree with that. Most of the people on the speed awareness course he attended had been caught the same way.
In defence (my way) you can see road workers legging it across in the dark or running carrying a huge sign frame. Really makes me think they are crackers doing that job.

As for autobahn speed I remember making good progress and I spotted someone in my rear view mirror who then passed me as though I was stationary. That takes some balls biggrin

Sheepshanks

32,752 posts

119 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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hora said:
In defence (my way) you can see road workers legging it across in the dark or running carrying a huge sign frame. Really makes me think they are crackers doing that job.
It was mid-summer when he got caught.

hora said:
As for autobahn speed I remember making good progress and I spotted someone in my rear view mirror who then passed me as though I was stationary. That takes some balls biggrin
People do say high speeds are dangerous here as other drivers aren't expecting it, but I was amazed / terrified by the speed differentials in Germany - and even on the two relatively short journeys from and to the airport we did some near-misses.

bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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pim said:
Steady 85/90 is quick enough on any motorway.
Are you sure this is the right forum for you?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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bad company said:
pim said:
Steady 85/90 is quick enough on any motorway.
Are you sure this is the right forum for you?
I used to travel the length of the M1 and not drop below 100mph when conditions allowed. Same in Germany and Italy. And, yes, heavy traffic was sometimes present, before anybody goes off on one.

It was legal in those days. I never had a moment's drama. Plod used to smile as you overtook him.

hora

37,122 posts

211 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
People do say high speeds are dangerous here as other drivers aren't expecting it, but I was amazed / terrified by the speed differentials in Germany - and even on the two relatively short journeys from and to the airport we did some near-misses.
At 5.42am? Was he fully awake and hydrated?

bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
I used to travel the length of the M1 and not drop below 100mph when conditions allowed. Same in Germany and Italy. And, yes, heavy traffic was sometimes present, before anybody goes off on one.

It was legal in those days. I never had a moment's drama. Plod used to smile as you overtook him.
Either you're very old indeed or it wasn't legal in those days.

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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bad company said:
Either you're very old indeed or it wasn't legal in those days.
Wasn't illegal I think you meant...

And he is very, very old. Think dinosaurs and add a few years, but he is mostly lovely.

xjsdriver

1,071 posts

121 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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4pot said:
Speed matters used to be the PH slogan....as others have said, too many posters have been brainwashed.

Having had my licence for 23 years, and having driven safely but with, shall we say, enthusiasm, I was caught at an average of 106 on a 3 lane non-motorway 70 limit road. I was out with 3 others and cutting a long story short, we were followed by an unmarked bike for in excess of 20 miles on country roads.

Coming down a slip road, several of us accelerated to in excess of 120 for a short period. Zero traffic ahead of us, clear day and dry. When we were pulled by said bike, I asked him about the quality of our driving, to which confirmed that all of our overtakes were safe and due to the speed involved, he was forced to prosecute. I did explain that this was my first offence, was polite etc, but no change in his stance.

His report also state that we were not driving dangerously. Got my summons, along with one other guy within 2 months. Plead guilty by post as I was on holiday at the time of the court date, and wrote my letter of mitigation, which quite simply said I had been stupid, first offence in over 20 years of driving.

I received 6 points, no ban, and a £500 fine. I should have been burned at the stake, as speeding is a heinous crime. You get less punishment for hitting people.
That would depend on how hard you hit them surely?

beeej

1,400 posts

193 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Joeguard1990 said:
Got a letter through the door yesterday asking to identify driver of my car which was snapped at 106mph in a 70.
Do a good job of feeling sorry for yourself in front of the magistrates and its six points.

WJNB

2,637 posts

161 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Some you can't ever win & swallowing ones pride accepting you can't outwit speed enforcement measures is a hard lesson.
It's not weakness, cowardly or unmanly to admit defeat & just obey the law.
There are those who have to be tiresomely competitive in everything they do, scared witless they may come second & be seen as ineffective.
Pride comes before a fall & frustration with that that you cannot change leads to failure, eventually.
Nothing will change despite all the anger huffing & puffing for within a very few years every yard of our roads will be monitored for speedsters by satellite & there will be no hiding place.
If you yearn for speed find another outlet away from the public highway.
Speed & freedom of the highway disappeared long ago, you'll have to ask Grandad what it used to be like in the olden days.