Hosting an outdoor concert in gale force winds.
Discussion
DanSI said:
58warren said:
I was there - about 30 metres from the stage and although it was gusty, the weather stayed dry and it was a sunny evening.
The speakers were occasionally overcome by strong wind so the sound would fade briefly now and then, but all in all I thought it was a really good concert. There was plenty of space towards the front if people had wanted to move forwards a bit.
I thoroughly enjoyed the evening,
Your experience, which contradict the OP, almost make it sound like you were at a completely different concert/venue. The speakers were occasionally overcome by strong wind so the sound would fade briefly now and then, but all in all I thought it was a really good concert. There was plenty of space towards the front if people had wanted to move forwards a bit.
I thoroughly enjoyed the evening,
Didn't know BA was still doing the rounds.
If you got near the front you were fine. A little bit of shelter from the wind by the stage and the speakers were facing down into the people standing at the front, not pointing over their heads as normal.
A lot of people clearly had a great night. There's as many complaints as there is positive experiences.
We didn't see pockets of space. It looked really busy from the different view points that we took. The people I was with aren't comfortable squeezing to the front. Why should they either? Surely at a concert you should be able to hear from anywhere in the watching arena?
The video I linked on page 1 was from nowhere near the back. It was also from well into the gig when the promoters say it was fine.
Here's a picture looking back from the stage to show how many people were there. There was 12,000 people, so the people at the front were OK, I'd say even before halfway back you were not.
This is the stage setup. Is that even enough of a sound system for a clear night with so many people?
Driver101 said:
DanSI said:
58warren said:
I was there - about 30 metres from the stage and although it was gusty, the weather stayed dry and it was a sunny evening.
The speakers were occasionally overcome by strong wind so the sound would fade briefly now and then, but all in all I thought it was a really good concert. There was plenty of space towards the front if people had wanted to move forwards a bit.
I thoroughly enjoyed the evening,
Your experience, which contradict the OP, almost make it sound like you were at a completely different concert/venue. The speakers were occasionally overcome by strong wind so the sound would fade briefly now and then, but all in all I thought it was a really good concert. There was plenty of space towards the front if people had wanted to move forwards a bit.
I thoroughly enjoyed the evening,
Didn't know BA was still doing the rounds.
If you got near the front you were fine. A little bit of shelter from the wind by the stage and the speakers were facing down into the people standing at the front, not pointing over their heads as normal.
A lot of people clearly had a great night. There's as many complaints as there is positive experiences.
We didn't see pockets of space. It looked really busy from the different view points that we took. The people I was with aren't comfortable squeezing to the front. Why should they either? Surely at a concert you should be able to hear from anywhere in the watching arena?
The video I linked on page 1 was from nowhere near the back. It was also from well into the gig when the promoters say it was fine.
Here's a picture looking back from the stage to show how many people were there. There was 12,000 people, so the people at the front were OK, I'd say even before halfway back you were not.
This is the stage setup. Is that even enough of a sound system for a clear night with so many people?
I think to be honest as has already been said, damned if they do, damned if they don't. Someone will always find something to complain about.
They won't issue refunds unless i guess they get enough complaints which from hearing from others they won't as they all enjoyed it (apart from yourself and a minority of others).
AbzST64 said:
My folks were there and ma few folks from my work, they all had a great night and said it was a bit blustery but didn't dampen the spirits and was even quite sunny (as per your picture) for a while.
I think to be honest as has already been said, damned if they do, damned if they don't. Someone will always find something to complain about.
They won't issue refunds unless i guess they get enough complaints which from hearing from others they won't as they all enjoyed it (apart from yourself and a minority of others).
All our group were vastly disappointed, everyone around us, no matter where we moved, were all complaining and thousands of people left very early. I also know a few other who went and they all shared my experience. It's maybe still a minority, but it's still thousands of people. I think to be honest as has already been said, damned if they do, damned if they don't. Someone will always find something to complain about.
They won't issue refunds unless i guess they get enough complaints which from hearing from others they won't as they all enjoyed it (apart from yourself and a minority of others).
Most of the complaints have been removed from their social media pages too.
There's a video on page one showing how quiet it was 1/2 back. That was when the wind wasn't that high.
It was actually sunny most of the time, it was still exceptionally windy. Blustery is downplaying things a bit too much. It was Gale force winds in the area and across Scotland.
The 6.10pm train out of Aberdeen(the Montrose line) was cancelled due to trees on the line.The met office had a severe weather warning in place, There was recorded gale force winds in the area, the beer tents were closed due to the high winds.....yet a lot of people didn't notice any of this.
My earlier point about the sound system. Someone has just told me that Bryan Adams apologised during the concert. I had been told he had, but had no idea what was said as we couldn't hear. However he was apologising about the sound and said that large speakers had to be removed from the setup due to the wind. So the sound system was underpowered even for normal conditions.
I do appreciate the dammed if they do comments. However these winds were forecast well in advance, there was serious incidents all across Scotland all day, the winds were still present and continued through the night after the gig.
They let people in at 6pm and didn't deem the temporary structures safe until 8.30pm, Bryan started at 8pm, even though the winds hadn't gone down.
We were all prepared for it to be cancelled and fully expected it to be. I'm sure most people would have thought the same and lots of people asked the question. I'm sure meveryone would have understood in the circumstances, especially with plenty of notice.
The organisers should have taken the decision much earlier before so many people travelled. We all knew what the weather would be. They should also not let them into a venue even they had deemed unsafe.
Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 10th August 18:09
Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 10th August 18:09
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Driver101 said:
Due to the gale force winds the PA system and TV screens were lowered.
A maximum wind speed limit would have been worked out, if that limit is hit the kit comes down, nothing the organisers can do about it.The crew would have been monitoring it very closely, believe me they don't want to bring it down either.
TheRainMaker said:
A maximum wind speed limit would have been worked out, if that limit is hit the kit comes down, nothing the organisers can do about it.
The crew would have been monitoring it very closely, believe me they don't want to bring it down either.
If they had to react during the concert I'd understand they had to do something. My biggest issue was the winds were predicted and had been going from the night before. The crew would have been monitoring it very closely, believe me they don't want to bring it down either.
They should have postponed it long before people even needed to travel.
There was a bit that came out from someone involved with the show. Apparently Adams also explained during the show(we couldn't hear) that they to remove a lot of the sound system earlier in the day. They also didn't conduct any sound checks either.
MoFest have told people who have emailed that the responsibility of the gig has nothing to do with them.
LCC LIVE Events haven't responded to anyone who has made a complaint.
This page is on Citizens advice Web page.
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/scotland/consume...
Edited by Driver101 on Saturday 13th August 11:49
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