Van/lorry parking

[jogger1976]

Hi all,

Just wanted some clarification re this, as there seem to be a lot of different answers depending where you live/who you ask!

As an example, where I live there are several sign written vans, which the covenant says aren't allowed. It doesn't really bother me or anyone else in the close as we all get on, (it's also handy having an auto electrician, plumber and builder close to hand )but what would happen if some Victor Meldrew type moved in and started kicking off?

On the other side of the road is a development where the vans are all parked in two laybys next to the houses and people apparently get quite militant about vans parking anywhere near the road/on the development.

Then a 5 minute walk past my close is another road where there are various LWB Sprinters/Transits etc and an Iveco recovery truck, which is always parked at the end of the road without any issue.

Is any of this even enforceable?

[anothernameitist]

Yes it enforable but management companies or the freeholder want an easy life so would rarely do anything.

[TooMany2cvs]

jogger1976 said:

As an example, where I live there are several sign written vans, which the covenant says aren't allowed. It doesn't really bother me or anyone else in the close as we all get on, (it's also handy having an auto electrician, plumber and builder close to hand )but what would happen if some Victor Meldrew type moved in and started kicking off?

The only people who can enforce a covenant are the people assigned the benefit in the covenant - so, in this case, it'll be the developer of the estate. And, assuming they've sold every house there and moved on, they won't care.

jogger1976 said:

Then a 5 minute walk past my close is another road where there are various LWB Sprinters/Transits etc and an Iveco recovery truck

The Transits and Sprinters will be 3.5t or under, so can be parked anywhere a car can. If the Iveco's over 3.5t (it might not be, even if it started off life as over - it could have been down-plated. Check the plate on https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk and see what the revenue weight is), then it should be under an operator's licence, which specifies where it should be kept, and a ton of bricks can come down from VOSA.

[SVTRick]

TooMany2cvs said:

The Transits and Sprinters will be 3.5t or under, so can be parked anywhere a car can. If the Iveco's over 3.5t (it might not be, even if it started off life as over - it could have been down-plated. Check the plate on https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk and see what the revenue weight is), then it should be under an operator's licence, which specifies where it should be kept, and a ton of bricks can come down from VOSA.

Unless its a private vehicle - not for hire or reward, or plant.

[TooMany2cvs]

SVTRick said:

Unless its a private vehicle - not for hire or reward, or plant.

Ah, yes. Good point.

[Cat]

SVTRick said:

TooMany2cvs said:

The Transits and Sprinters will be 3.5t or under, so can be parked anywhere a car can. If the Iveco's over 3.5t (it might not be, even if it started off life as over - it could have been down-plated. Check the plate on https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk and see what the revenue weight is), then it should be under an operator's licence, which specifies where it should be kept, and a ton of bricks can come down from VOSA.

Unless its a private vehicle - not for hire or reward, or plant.

Recovery vehicles don't require an o licence regardless of weight.

Cat

[jogger1976]

Thanks for the info guys. As I say, I'm not bothered by any of it, just interested really. I found out from a mate that the firm that own the truck do all the recovery work for the local plod when cars are seized, and also for the local authority when abandoned vehicles are reported. I guess the driver needs to park a reasonable distance to respond to call outs?

[KM666]

Interesting stuff. I don't have a vehicle I bring back but have had Luton's and 7.5t parked outside if I'm in the area and need to take a half hour or 45. Always wondered about this as ours has something similar written in. Stuff about not working on cars too besides maintainence, in my eyes every job is maintainence so there's often something getting worked on.

[Bristol spark]

I actually asked the developers if they are likely to enforce this before i moved into a new build.

The answer was, technically yes, but a single van parked on a driveway they would not enforce.

They would however enforce if you had a fleet of vans littering the street!

[Fane]

Cat said:

Recovery vehicles don't require an o licence regardless of weight.

Cat

If they're used for hire and reward (ie they transport driveable vehicles as well as broken down ones) they need an O licence. There may also be a parking location exemption if the driver is a breakdown driver on call. That last point may just be me talking internet bks though.

[Cat]

Fane said:

If they're used for hire and reward (ie they transport driveable vehicles as well as broken down ones) they need an O licence.

If they are used for that purpose then they wouldn't be recovery vehicles.

Cat

[TooMany2cvs]

Cat said:

If they are used for that purpose then they wouldn't be recovery vehicles.

They would certainly be termed as such by people asking about whether they should be parked on the road or not.

[Cat]

TooMany2cvs said:

They would certainly be termed as such by people asking about whether they should be parked on the road or not.

Maybe but those people would be wrong in doing so. It also doesn't change the fact that recovery vehicles are not subject to operator licensing and DVSA wouldn't be turning up with a ton of bricks.

Cat