Another disqualification question

Another disqualification question

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surveyor_101

5,069 posts

180 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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janesmith1950 said:
Are you sure you got a 21 day ban for totting up? It sounds quite a lot like it was a short term ban for a single speeding offence, which is not the same thing.
Welll I had 9 points at point of offence. By the time I went to court 3 had expired but it works for date of pff nice not conviction.

I pleaded exceptional hardship and got 21 day ban and £150 fine, and agreed I would bike to work and be office based or go out with others if needed.

So I don't remember it being called a totting up ban but that was why I was refered to court as it was average of 90 on motorway.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,406 posts

151 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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surveyor_101 said:
Well I had 9 points at point of offence.

Other stuff.

I was refered to court as it was average of 90 on motorway.
I must be of a different mindset tot he average Joe. When I got to 6 points, I stopped speeding, completely, until they had gone. If I were on 9 points I'd be stuck at 65 on the motorway, just to be on the safe side.

An average of 90 means sometimes doing well in excess of 90, with 9 points already in the bag. Utterly bonkers...IMHO.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

180 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I must be of a different mindset tot he average Joe. When I got to 6 points, I stopped speeding, completely, until they had gone. If I were on 9 points I'd be stuck at 65 on the motorway, just to be on the safe side.

An average of 90 means sometimes doing well in excess of 90, with 9 points already in the bag. Utterly bonkers...IMHO.
I was early 20s and was a junior, I was asked to deliver a £15m tender document at the last minute and feeling the pressure I got a move on as the dealine was 12pm to the offices of client! I was given an hour to travel about 40 miles!

I was told it had to get their come hell or high water, I was even given the keys to a senior persons audi a6, which was I had never been let lose in before, old 620 rover, old van of once an old a4! Never the commercial managers shiny a6!

Were the employer unreasonable, yes but I did my best. Didn't go ok but I will drive at the limit and if I get there I get there. We had spent two months on the tender submission!

Edited by surveyor_101 on Tuesday 16th August 13:58

TwigtheWonderkid

43,406 posts

151 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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surveyor_101 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I must be of a different mindset tot he average Joe. When I got to 6 points, I stopped speeding, completely, until they had gone. If I were on 9 points I'd be stuck at 65 on the motorway, just to be on the safe side.

An average of 90 means sometimes doing well in excess of 90, with 9 points already in the bag. Utterly bonkers...IMHO.
I was early 20s and was a junior, I was asked to deliver a £15m tender document at the last minute and feeling the pressure I got a move on as the dealine was 12pm to the offices of client! I was given an hour to travel about 40 miles!

I was told it had to get their come hell or high water, I was even given the keys to a senior persons audi a6, which was I had never been let lose in before, old 620 rover, old van of once an old a4! Never the commercial managers shiny a6!

Were the employer unreasonable, yes but I did my best. Didn't go ok but I will drive at the limit and if I get there I get there. We had spent two months on the tender submission!

Edited by surveyor_101 on Tuesday 16th August 13:58
You should have explained you were on 9 points, that you couldn't risk speeding and that they should send someone else. Having spend 2 months on it and with £15m at stake, I'm surprised they were trusting it to a junior in the first place.

agtlaw

6,712 posts

207 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Rangeroverover said:
It was explained to me that hardship is a once in a lifetime deal and the hardship needed to effect someone else.
It was explained badly. It's actually every three years (from the date of conviction) but sooner if your circumstances have changed. The last part - it doesn't have to affect someone else, but that would help.

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
surveyor_101 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I must be of a different mindset tot he average Joe. When I got to 6 points, I stopped speeding, completely, until they had gone. If I were on 9 points I'd be stuck at 65 on the motorway, just to be on the safe side.

An average of 90 means sometimes doing well in excess of 90, with 9 points already in the bag. Utterly bonkers...IMHO.
I was early 20s and was a junior, I was asked to deliver a £15m tender document at the last minute and feeling the pressure I got a move on as the dealine was 12pm to the offices of client! I was given an hour to travel about 40 miles!

I was told it had to get their come hell or high water, I was even given the keys to a senior persons audi a6, which was I had never been let lose in before, old 620 rover, old van of once an old a4! Never the commercial managers shiny a6!

Were the employer unreasonable, yes but I did my best. Didn't go ok but I will drive at the limit and if I get there I get there. We had spent two months on the tender submission!

Edited by surveyor_101 on Tuesday 16th August 13:58
You should have explained you were on 9 points, that you couldn't risk speeding and that they should send someone else. Having spend 2 months on it and with £15m at stake, I'm surprised they were trusting it to a junior in the first place.
Indeed. Bloody awful mitigation being pulled up for an average 90 on 9pts.
"I was running an errand for work" is literally the least 'life and death' reason. That drive could have been done by anyone.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

180 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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C70R said:
Indeed. Bloody awful mitigation being pulled up for an average 90 on 9pts.
"I was running an errand for work" is literally the least 'life and death' reason. That drive could have been done by anyone.
Well that with the report from course tutor on my progress etc and my dad had just died I got hardship and 21 day ban and £150 fine. The company looked after me and allowed me to ride to work or get lifts for 3 weeks. I also got a bonus which than covered the fine.


I delivered all the tenders as a trainee surveyor/ estimator it was part of my role. I never failed once.

After that they never left one so lat again.

Moominho

Original Poster:

894 posts

141 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Thanks for all your advice all, much appreciated smile

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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surveyor_101 said:
Well that with the report from course tutor on my progress etc and my dad had just died I got hardship and 21 day ban and £150 fine. The company looked after me and allowed me to ride to work or get lifts for 3 weeks. I also got a bonus which than covered the fine.


I delivered all the tenders as a trainee surveyor/ estimator it was part of my role. I never failed once.

After that they never left one so lat again.
What about the increased insurance premiums you'd have for the next 5 years??