Import customs charges - Should I pay?
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sidekickdmr said:
Hey, I’m not blaming the seller, it appears I should have known this, but I didn’t, and I would say that at some point you didn’t either.
I’m annoyed at the situation, not the people.
However a little "*please be aware that there may be import tax and customs charges to pay depending on your countries policies" on the payment page wouldn’t have gone amiss.
Are you 100% certain that doesn't appear anywhere on their site/ the advert?I’m annoyed at the situation, not the people.
However a little "*please be aware that there may be import tax and customs charges to pay depending on your countries policies" on the payment page wouldn’t have gone amiss.
sidekickdmr said:
However a little "*please be aware that there may be import tax and customs charges to pay depending on your countries policies" on the payment page wouldn’t have gone amiss.
Why is it the seller's responsibility? Any tax imposed is nothing at all to do with them.Hell, given they're 'merkins, they probably don't even quite understand the concept of other countries in the first place.
sidekickdmr said:
Hey, I’m not blaming the seller, it appears I should have known this, but I didn’t, and I would say that at some point you didn’t either.
I’m annoyed at the situation, not the people.
However a little "*please be aware that there may be import tax and customs charges to pay depending on your countries policies" on the payment page wouldn’t have gone amiss.
He may no be aware that UK buyers need to pay import duty.I’m annoyed at the situation, not the people.
However a little "*please be aware that there may be import tax and customs charges to pay depending on your countries policies" on the payment page wouldn’t have gone amiss.
IMHO Caveat emptor applies to the whole process, not just the quality of the goods
sidekickdmr said:
Great, so I’m Dammed if I do (paying over the odds on a already over-budget project) and dammed if I don’t (would get a refund, but not including the $85 shipping costs.)
I'm not sure how it works - would you really get a refund? Even if that's a yes, you might have to pay return postage.I think you might just get chased for payment anyway.
Sheepshanks said:
sidekickdmr said:
Great, so I’m Dammed if I do (paying over the odds on a already over-budget project) and dammed if I don’t (would get a refund, but not including the $85 shipping costs.)
I'm not sure how it works - would you really get a refund? Even if that's a yes, you might have to pay return postage.I think you might just get chased for payment anyway.
I always hate the patronising, holier-than-thou tone in some of the responses on threads like these. If you can't be helpful, can't you go and exercise your inferiority complexes elsewhere?
When I started importing goods, I was quite ready to pay the VAT, import fees etc, as these were quite up-front. What I wasn't ready for was the parcelforce/carrier's handling fee. You really don't know about these until you get stung by one and as it's a flat rate, when purchasing smaller items, the 'handling fee' can exceed the VAT you're paying them to collect!
The simple advice is: pay up. And just learn from it for next time. There are some companies that will collect the VAT etc on your behalf so you don't get caught out by any unexpected fees. Rockauto does this and so I try to buy most higher-value car stuff from there.
It sucks, and it definitely dissuades me from making some discretionary purchases - I'd love a hurst shifter... but its price doubles after postage, VAT, import tax, fees etc...
Maybe we should have a trade deal with the US or something...
When I started importing goods, I was quite ready to pay the VAT, import fees etc, as these were quite up-front. What I wasn't ready for was the parcelforce/carrier's handling fee. You really don't know about these until you get stung by one and as it's a flat rate, when purchasing smaller items, the 'handling fee' can exceed the VAT you're paying them to collect!
The simple advice is: pay up. And just learn from it for next time. There are some companies that will collect the VAT etc on your behalf so you don't get caught out by any unexpected fees. Rockauto does this and so I try to buy most higher-value car stuff from there.
It sucks, and it definitely dissuades me from making some discretionary purchases - I'd love a hurst shifter... but its price doubles after postage, VAT, import tax, fees etc...
Maybe we should have a trade deal with the US or something...
TooMany2cvs said:
That's a very interesting link - I'd heard of TTP before, but not TTIP. It doesn't sound like a bed of roses though. And good luck on it actually being ratified by 2020, if it even affects us by then...http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/what-i...
NDNDNDND said:
TooMany2cvs said:
NDNDNDND said:
Maybe we should have a trade deal with the US or something...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_PartnershipTooMany2cvs said:
NDNDNDND said:
TooMany2cvs said:
NDNDNDND said:
Maybe we should have a trade deal with the US or something...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_PartnershipTooMany2cvs said:
Yeh, that was kinda my point... "We should have a trade deal" sounds so nice and easy, doesn't it?
Not wanting to get drawn into an argument, but perhaps negotiations would be more straightforward if we weren't waiting our turn at the table with 27 other nations, all with their own conflicting requirements and agenda...?NDNDNDND said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Yeh, that was kinda my point... "We should have a trade deal" sounds so nice and easy, doesn't it?
Not wanting to get drawn into an argument, but perhaps negotiations would be more straightforward if we weren't waiting our turn at the table with 27 other nations, all with their own conflicting requirements and agenda...?Or maybe 65m people and $2.7tn GDP do stand a better chance of getting exactly what we want negotiating with 300m people and $16.8tn GDP than 510m people and $17tn GDP do. Yeh, that'll be it.
Anyway, if you still think it's that easy, then have a look at the EU-Indian trade talks. The incoming Indian government just walked away from them in 2014 after 7yrs of negotiation.
How about if you order it via a UK Amazon seller (through amazon), and they do not have it in stock (after advertising that they had it), then subsequently they have had to order it from the states, which they mailed directly to us. It is now sat @ a DHL depot in Langley, UK, waiting for customs duty to be paid.. by us.
Who pays for the import here?
Personally i am raising a dispute to Amazon for a refund.
Who pays for the import here?
Personally i am raising a dispute to Amazon for a refund.
The whole INCOTERMS thing is quite straighforward really;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incoterms
It just appears that the OP assumed DDP – Delivered Duty Paid whereas seller was working to DAP – Delivered At Place it was possibly in the very small print!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incoterms
It just appears that the OP assumed DDP – Delivered Duty Paid whereas seller was working to DAP – Delivered At Place it was possibly in the very small print!
sidekickdmr said:
Hey, I’m not blaming the seller, it appears I should have known this, but I didn’t, and I would say that at some point you didn’t either.
I’m annoyed at the situation, not the people.
However a little "*please be aware that there may be import tax and customs charges to pay depending on your countries policies" on the payment page wouldn’t have gone amiss.
Something like this?I’m annoyed at the situation, not the people.
However a little "*please be aware that there may be import tax and customs charges to pay depending on your countries policies" on the payment page wouldn’t have gone amiss.
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