License endorsement for breaking the rules whilst cycling
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I commute in London daily - either by cycle, motorbike or bus depending on my mood / the weather / drinking plans.
I routinely see cyclists jumping red lights, cycling whilst texting, cycling on pavements, etc. I am amazed there are not more serious injuries / fatalities. When cycling, I stick to the rules, in part for safety but also because I would hate to have a license endorsement (and increased insurance premiums on my motor policies) because of a cycling offence.
So, my question is, is it possible to get an endorsement on a driving license because of breaking road rules whilst cycling?
Cheers
I routinely see cyclists jumping red lights, cycling whilst texting, cycling on pavements, etc. I am amazed there are not more serious injuries / fatalities. When cycling, I stick to the rules, in part for safety but also because I would hate to have a license endorsement (and increased insurance premiums on my motor policies) because of a cycling offence.
So, my question is, is it possible to get an endorsement on a driving license because of breaking road rules whilst cycling?
Cheers
MickF11 said:
No.
helix402 said:
No.
I don't know about endorsement (agtlaw will) but, as he said, you can definitely be disqualified.CPS Sentencing Ancillary Orders said:
Section 146 Powers of Criminal Courts (Sentencing) Act 2000.
Any court may disqualify an offender from driving on conviction for any offence, either in addition to or instead of any other sentence. Somewhat surprisingly, perhaps, it is not a requirement of disqualification that the offence is connected with the use of a motor vehicle: the power to disqualify under s. 146 is a general power.
.Any court may disqualify an offender from driving on conviction for any offence, either in addition to or instead of any other sentence. Somewhat surprisingly, perhaps, it is not a requirement of disqualification that the offence is connected with the use of a motor vehicle: the power to disqualify under s. 146 is a general power.
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_and_...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/6/section...
OP, the power has been used but you would have to have done something very serious to warrant it.
http://road.cc/content/news/6442-cyclist-jailed-ca...
Red Devil said:
MickF11 said:
No.
helix402 said:
No.
I don't know about endorsement (agtlaw will) but, as he said, you can definitely be disqualified.CPS Sentencing Ancillary Orders said:
Section 146 Powers of Criminal Courts (Sentencing) Act 2000.
Any court may disqualify an offender from driving on conviction for any offence, either in addition to or instead of any other sentence. Somewhat surprisingly, perhaps, it is not a requirement of disqualification that the offence is connected with the use of a motor vehicle: the power to disqualify under s. 146 is a general power.
.Any court may disqualify an offender from driving on conviction for any offence, either in addition to or instead of any other sentence. Somewhat surprisingly, perhaps, it is not a requirement of disqualification that the offence is connected with the use of a motor vehicle: the power to disqualify under s. 146 is a general power.
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_and_...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/6/section...
OP, the power has been used but you would have to have done something very serious to warrant it.
http://road.cc/content/news/6442-cyclist-jailed-ca...
DB77 said:
I commute in London daily - either by cycle, motorbike or bus depending on my mood / the weather / drinking plans.
I routinely see cyclists jumping red lights, cycling whilst texting, cycling on pavements, etc. I am amazed there are not more serious injuries / fatalities. When cycling, I stick to the rules, in part for safety but also because I would hate to have a license endorsement (and increased insurance premiums on my motor policies) because of a cycling offence.
So, my question is, is it possible to get an endorsement on a driving license because of breaking road rules whilst cycling?
Cheers
Many, many drivers are never caught and punished for these things. I guess an idiot on a bicycle will hardly ever be caught either.I routinely see cyclists jumping red lights, cycling whilst texting, cycling on pavements, etc. I am amazed there are not more serious injuries / fatalities. When cycling, I stick to the rules, in part for safety but also because I would hate to have a license endorsement (and increased insurance premiums on my motor policies) because of a cycling offence.
So, my question is, is it possible to get an endorsement on a driving license because of breaking road rules whilst cycling?
Cheers
Impasse said:
Wasn't there a story (urban myth?) about a chap who received three points for manufacturing a sign warning of a speed trap a few years back?
Not quite. He was banned from driving for it - not given points. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1463472/Mot...
The Act mentioned above gives courts the power to ban people from driving for any offence. There's no equivalent power to impose points for any offence.
IIRC the original intention was that a ban could be just another punishment option which stopped short of prison - young hoodlums causing trouble on Friday night could have their driving licences taken away instead of/as well as being given a curfew or having to spend a few weekends litter picking in their local park. In practice it hasn't been used like that, and is generally only used for offences which are at least indirectly related to driving. I also vaguely recall a case of someone who got banned for setting fire to a speed camera.
Edited by Aretnap on Saturday 20th August 13:33
agtlaw said:
helix402 said:
You are correct, however the chances of points on a driving licence for a cycling offence are slim.
Actually, the chance is nil. Ban - yes. Points - no.^^ That's also true, but if someone has no intention to get a licence with no interest to ever drive a motor vehicle and they are then given a ban then this ban would become void to that person's life right? In this case they would be free to continue cycling too, so the ban imposed on to that person would be rendered pointless. But the law has nothing in place to stop a cycling offender from cycling, is this correct?
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