Caught a car keyer on my CCTV
Discussion
Greendubber said:
Of course you would.
Are you being naive or facetious?Lack of court sanction following police intervention if they can be bothered is leading the way to the slippery slope. See my post and others above by what are probably in the main law abiding citizens feeling badly let down.
Harvey Mushman00 said:
If a someone did that to my car and I could identify them and find them I would make sure they couldn't walk or lift their arms for months, it would be done quietly and without letting the whole world know I was looking for revenge, he wouldn't do it again, something like that stays with you for a long time, not saying its right, its just how I would react.
The Brazilian approach I would assume is pretty effectivehttp://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b16_1471526857 (Not suitable for the overly sensitive)
speedyguy said:
Greendubber said:
Of course you would.
Are you being naive or facetious?Lack of court sanction following police intervention if they can be bothered is leading the way to the slippery slope. See my post and others above by what are probably in the main law abiding citizens feeling badly let down.
Go on, tell me another one.
Greendubber said:
Harvey Mushman00 said:
If a someone did that to my car and I could identify them and find them I would make sure they couldn't walk or lift their arms for months, it would be done quietly and without letting the whole world know I was looking for revenge, he wouldn't do it again, something like that stays with you for a long time, not saying its right, its just how I would react.
Of course you would.speedyguy said:
Lack of court sanction following police intervention if they can be bothered is leading the way to the slippery slope.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope speedyguy said:
Greendubber said:
Of course you would.
Are you being naive or facetious?Lack of court sanction following police intervention if they can be bothered is leading the way to the slippery slope. See my post and others above by what are probably in the main law abiding citizens feeling badly let down.
Fast forward a couple of months Mum asks me to do a shift as one of her regular bar staff was off sick, so I rode my GS1000 to the pub and parked it up behind the pub in its usual place locked it up and went inside to do the shift, when finished went outside and the seat had been slashed and the tank keyed badly.
A couple of days later I was in the town centre that the pub was minding my own business, when the scrote and a couple of his mates appeared were they stupidly admitted that they were responsible and that there was no way that I could prove it to the cops, they walked off laughing to themselves.
Fast forward another couple of months I bumped into the same scrote again, but this time he was on his own.......
Strangely six of his fingers just broke of their own accord.
tdm34 said:
speedyguy said:
Greendubber said:
Of course you would.
Are you being naive or facetious?Lack of court sanction following police intervention if they can be bothered is leading the way to the slippery slope. See my post and others above by what are probably in the main law abiding citizens feeling badly let down.
Fast forward a couple of months Mum asks me to do a shift as one of her regular bar staff was off sick, so I rode my GS1000 to the pub and parked it up behind the pub in its usual place locked it up and went inside to do the shift, when finished went outside and the seat had been slashed and the tank keyed badly.
A couple of days later I was in the town centre that the pub was minding my own business, when the scrote and a couple of his mates appeared were they stupidly admitted that they were responsible and that there was no way that I could prove it to the cops, they walked off laughing to themselves.
Fast forward another couple of months I bumped into the same scrote again, but this time he was on his own.......
Strangely six of his fingers just broke of their own accord.
Greendubber said:
speedyguy said:
Greendubber said:
Of course you would.
Are you being naive or facetious?Lack of court sanction following police intervention if they can be bothered is leading the way to the slippery slope. See my post and others above by what are probably in the main law abiding citizens feeling badly let down.
Go on, tell me another one.
At this rate the BIB could be out of a job apart from 'protecting' royalty, politicians and the judiciary etc
Just like the latest news on Uber drivers being out a job due to self driving vehicle progress.
We'll have to agree to differ. If you think the law is doing a good job with sentencing etc you must be on drugs
La Liga said:
speedyguy said:
If you think the law is doing a good job with sentencing etc you must be on drugs.
In the 'old' well within your chart period amount the of times I and others had trucks broken into, fuel etc stolen, vehicles damaged the police weren't interested or recording one bit. So forgive me for being sceptical.
I take more interest now as everything is supposed to be "evidence" based and the amount of figure "bending" is an eye opener.
I actually wrote out two preemptive replies but deleted them. I should have done as you've managed to tick them both.
1) Under-reporting / recording. The CSEW which corroborates the data isn't recorded crime. Secondly, whose to say under-reporting is significantly different now as to the past?
2) Conspiracy / manipulated data etc. Easier to focus on the improbable when the indications / conclusions don't suit you.
1) Under-reporting / recording. The CSEW which corroborates the data isn't recorded crime. Secondly, whose to say under-reporting is significantly different now as to the past?
2) Conspiracy / manipulated data etc. Easier to focus on the improbable when the indications / conclusions don't suit you.
La Liga said:
2) Conspiracy / manipulated data etc. Easier to focus on the improbable when the indicatiaons / conclusions don't suit you.
The 'figures' are generally 'massaged/manipulated' call it what you wish to meet targets for management, politicians etc.The problem with keeping "giving them green when they ask for green" is that it masks the problem when the real colour is red or amber and this is hidden so everyone misguidedly thinks hey its all ok we're doing well rather than dealing with the problems.
It's endemic within the police, NHS, DWP, DfT, HMRC that I am aware of from family members and friends and work and probably many other depts.
You carry on believing your "figures" though and nothing will change for the better.
In Dorset crime gets you a conditional discharge, all of them for the past month or more
http://m.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/14669352.IN_THE_DOC...See_who_has_been_before_the_courts_published_August_9/
http://m.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/14669352.IN_THE_DOC...See_who_has_been_before_the_courts_published_August_9/
speedyguy said:
The 'figures' are generally 'massaged/manipulated' call it what you wish to meet targets for management, politicians etc.
The problem with keeping "giving them green when they ask for green" is that it masks the problem when the real colour is red or amber and this is hidden so everyone misguidedly thinks hey its all ok we're doing well rather than dealing with the problems.
It's endemic within the police, NHS, DWP, DfT, HMRC that I am aware of from family members and friends and work and probably many other depts.
You carry on believing your "figures" though and nothing will change for the better.
Of course they are. All the indications are wrong, because, well, you say they are. The problem with keeping "giving them green when they ask for green" is that it masks the problem when the real colour is red or amber and this is hidden so everyone misguidedly thinks hey its all ok we're doing well rather than dealing with the problems.
It's endemic within the police, NHS, DWP, DfT, HMRC that I am aware of from family members and friends and work and probably many other depts.
You carry on believing your "figures" though and nothing will change for the better.
Well, that's me convinced. How can anyone argue against such a compelling, evidence-based argument?
There must be a conspiracy involving the ONS to reduce its indication of around 19k in the mid-1990s down to 7k. Obviously data wasn't manipulated from the early 1980s to the mid-1990s - it's just something the Government has learnt now. They must have passed it on to other governments across the West who've seen similar trends, too. All the academic work trying to find the cause and effect of the crime fall is also wrong / a conspiracy as well.
What about when the figures show an increase like this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33547806
Why isn't the data manipulated to remove the knife-crime increase? I'm sure you can make something up so you can keep pretending you're right.
You mentioned sentencing, we sentence more people to go to prison that most nations on earth (proportionately). Well, I presume we do. If you say we don't and the government is lying about how many people are in prison then that'll naturally be the truth.
speedyguy said:
Greendubber said:
speedyguy said:
Greendubber said:
Of course you would.
Are you being naive or facetious?Lack of court sanction following police intervention if they can be bothered is leading the way to the slippery slope. See my post and others above by what are probably in the main law abiding citizens feeling badly let down.
Go on, tell me another one.
At this rate the BIB could be out of a job apart from 'protecting' royalty, politicians and the judiciary etc
Just like the latest news on Uber drivers being out a job due to self driving vehicle progress.
We'll have to agree to differ. If you think the law is doing a good job with sentencing etc you must be on drugs
As for drugs, I'll have some of what you're on please.
cptsideways said:
Excellent stuff get the scrote cornered, hopefully the parents take action.
I'd expect BIB to have heard the other reaction from the parents, especially those parents who are also low life and looking for reasons why their little darlings should not be identified. I'm not saying ,don't catch the little scrotes in the act- just get BIB approval before setting up CCTV which might catch the parents "little darlings" misbehaving, otherwise the "upright" parents might go down the "taking photos " of our little children route. Rovinghawk said:
Why did you miss the others?
As for some posters suggesting vigilante justice doesn't happen, where on earth do they get that idea? Most of us have probably come across it in some form.
I'm sure it does happen.As for some posters suggesting vigilante justice doesn't happen, where on earth do they get that idea? Most of us have probably come across it in some form.
For a scratched car though.....I very much doubt it.
If you're the type of guy who would actually hunt the person down who scratched your car and subject them to a severe beating so as to make sure they "couldn't lift their arms for months", or whatever, then you're clearly in need of psychiatric help. I'm sure your family would be very proud of you for dishing out such justice as and when you're banged up for a few years.
I'm not condoning people scratching cars, far from it (I've had it done to me before and it's a bloody awful feeling) but life's too short to do time over such a trivial incident.
beeej said:
Update: Police identified a girl who has named the boy. Possibly not a first offender. Hopefully that means court.
Social media were late to the game. A local FB group has a thread hotter than the sun. It has escalated messily with the boy's Mum saying "he only scratched one car, the girls scratched the rest, if only you had footage of it you'd see" - well, like that, only in fullcaps without the spelling or grammar.
Then the girls in the footage chip in and say he's lying. And the Mum says NO SEE YOU'VE ONLY GOT STILLS SEE. Where does she think the stills are from?! Solid gold. Ongoing. Messy. I'm not posting, obviously.
Did the Mum ask for the car owners details so that she/he can pay for the damage to the one car he did then.Social media were late to the game. A local FB group has a thread hotter than the sun. It has escalated messily with the boy's Mum saying "he only scratched one car, the girls scratched the rest, if only you had footage of it you'd see" - well, like that, only in fullcaps without the spelling or grammar.
Then the girls in the footage chip in and say he's lying. And the Mum says NO SEE YOU'VE ONLY GOT STILLS SEE. Where does she think the stills are from?! Solid gold. Ongoing. Messy. I'm not posting, obviously.
Nezquick said:
Rovinghawk said:
Why did you miss the others?
As for some posters suggesting vigilante justice doesn't happen, where on earth do they get that idea? Most of us have probably come across it in some form.
I'm sure it does happen.As for some posters suggesting vigilante justice doesn't happen, where on earth do they get that idea? Most of us have probably come across it in some form.
For a scratched car though.....I very much doubt it.
If you're the type of guy who would actually hunt the person down who scratched your car and subject them to a severe beating so as to make sure they "couldn't lift their arms for months", or whatever, then you're clearly in need of psychiatric help. I'm sure your family would be very proud of you for dishing out such justice as and when you're banged up for a few years.
I'm not condoning people scratching cars, far from it (I've had it done to me before and it's a bloody awful feeling) but life's too short to do time over such a trivial incident.
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