Have I just been banned from driving :( :( UK

Have I just been banned from driving :( :( UK

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coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Having lived near the A19 for twenty odd years and seen innumerable accidents and near misses I do hope a lesson has been learned . To those unfamiliar with the road , it has lots of crossings , poorly sighted bends and farm traffic , especially at this time of year. I can think of about 2 miles between Thirsk and Middlesbrough whee in light traffic you might be safe to do 110mph. In daylight . In the dry.Mind you , OP was doing 30 odd mph less than the idiot in an Evo was recently ....

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Ye Gods! It really is the silly season, isn't it?

Why is no one trying to fry an egg on the pavement?

I will be glad when the kids go back to school.

AH33

2,066 posts

135 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Haha, that situation has happened at least 3 times to me and nothing has ever come of it. Most recently was followed by a bike cop at 80ish in a (stupidly placed) 50 zone - He overtook and didn't care. Good, sensible policemen are great biggrin

It's the vans you wanna watch out for. No discretion with one of those automotive curtain twitchers.

SS2.

14,462 posts

238 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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culpz said:
As far as i'm aware, even if they had proof on their systems of you doing 100+ mph, they'd have to pull you over and advise you what will happen next.
That's not correct - they would be fine issuing a NIP by post after the event.

culpz said:
It's not like going through a speed camera where you've gotta wait 2 weeks to see what the outcome would be.
It could be but, in this case, I doubt the OP will hear anything more.

Jimbobjr88

Original Poster:

9 posts

92 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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coppice said:
Having lived near the A19 for twenty odd years and seen innumerable accidents and near misses I do hope a lesson has been learned . To those unfamiliar with the road , it has lots of crossings , poorly sighted bends and farm traffic , especially at this time of year. I can think of about 2 miles between Thirsk and Middlesbrough whee in light traffic you might be safe to do 110mph. In daylight . In the dry.Mind you , OP was doing 30 odd mph less than the idiot in an Evo was recently ....
I agree, it really isn't a great road!! Very silly of me... I know it littered with unmarked and mobile police cameras as well. It was a pure moment of madness.

SWoll

18,380 posts

258 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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AH33 said:
Haha, that situation has happened at least 3 times to me and nothing has ever come of it.
You might want to consider slowing down then before something does? If you're consistently doing 60% over the posted limit then you're driving like a tt, simple as. Just because you don't think it's justified is meaningless.

kambites

67,574 posts

221 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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SWoll said:
AH33 said:
Haha, that situation has happened at least 3 times to me and nothing has ever come of it.
Just because you don't think it's justified is meaningless.
yes

Even if the limit is completely unnecessary, its presence sets a certain level of expectation as to the speed other road users will be travelling at. Judging closing speeds is difficult, especially in small non-flat mirrors, so in practice people make the decision to pull out in front of another car on the assumption that it will be doing no more than 10-15mph above the speed limit; if it turns out to be doing 50mph over the speed limit, that could end badly.

I dislike stupidly low speed limits as much as anyone but however stupid they are, exceeding them by those sorts of margins is not safe unless there's absolutely no other traffic around. Especially in the wet and/or dark where it's even harder to judge distances and closing speeds.

Edited by kambites on Friday 26th August 09:05

ED209

5,746 posts

244 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Likely to be a senior fire service person or command level police officer in their company car. I don't think its likely to go anywhere although it probably deserves to.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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I had similar myself, was bombing along happily at 90mph on the M1 and all of a sudden (He must have been doing at least 120mph as it just appeared) a marked car came up behind with lights on. I thought FML. I moved over, and he bashed on past. Sometimes they have more serious stuff to do... Like get to a café for another Ginster's Pasty.

eltax91

9,880 posts

206 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Are you even sure it was a copper? Might've been the personal car of the fire chief, or one of those doctors that gets discreet blue and twos? Or maybe is was a walter mitty road warrior who likes to drive his Q5 around, goading motorists into high speed runs, then blips them with the blues to scare the st out of them.

My eyes (and cockish driving aside), don't worry about it OP, nothing will come of it, even if it was real BiB

SWoll

18,380 posts

258 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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bulldong said:
I had similar myself, was bombing along happily at 90mph on the M1 and all of a sudden (He must have been doing at least 120mph as it just appeared) a marked car came up behind with lights on. I thought FML. I moved over, and he bashed on past. Sometimes they have more serious stuff to do... Like get to a café for another Ginster's Pasty.
80-90 on a motorway is pretty much par for the course though. 110+ on an A road in bad weather is rather a different story.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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SWoll said:
80-90 on a motorway is pretty much par for the course though. 110+ on an A road in bad weather is rather a different story.
Yes, I know everyone does it but still puts a shiver up your spine when the blue lights come on.

R E S T E C P

660 posts

105 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Jimbobjr88 said:
safer... 110mph+
I liked this bit hehe

You didn't really think 110mph+ past a lorry was the safer option, did you? rolleyes

SWoll

18,380 posts

258 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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R E S T E C P said:
Jimbobjr88 said:
safer... 110mph+
I liked this bit hehe

You didn't really think 110mph+ past a lorry was the safer option, did you? rolleyes
He was also being courteous apparently. wink

Minemapper

933 posts

156 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Anything over 80 on the A19 is asking for it. It is a very highly monitored bit of road.

mikemike08

1,609 posts

94 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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110mph, you irresponsible tt. Dont you know each time you go past 93mph one new born baby dies ?
Came back from the continent where the average speed is 90mph, done 4000 miles and not seen 1 crash. And i reckon its busier there than here and the motorway is just a dual carriageway ffs

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

124 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Dog Star said:
You'll be fine OP, he was just giving you a little warning. I've had it happen myself.

Don't worry about it.
Ditto. He was being nice and getting you to simply slow down and be more careful.

Had the same in Oxfordshire. Guy was in an unmarked Mitsubishi PHEV thing (he was a dog handler it turns out). I pulled over, wound down the window and he stopped next to me and just said "I didn't intend for you to stop but you know why I flashed the blues at you don't you?" I responded yes, he nodded and drove off. And that was it. No lecture, no ticket.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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mikemike08 said:

Came back from the continent where the average speed is 90mph, done 4000 miles and not seen 1 crash. And i reckon its busier there than here and the motorway is just a dual carriageway ffs
Your point being?

AH33

2,066 posts

135 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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SWoll said:
You might want to consider slowing down then before something does? If you're consistently doing 60% over the posted limit then you're driving like a tt, simple as. Just because you don't think it's justified is meaningless.
No, the road is a 50, but for no good reason. For years it was a 70, its a straight dual carriageway - the A1!. 80 in a 70 isn't a problem, just because they change it to a 50 doesn't automatically make 70 dangerous. Everyone does it anyway. If you sit at 50 you'll be passed by absolutely everything.

60% over the limit sounds bad, but really it's only a problem in certain places.

Some of the 20 zones here used to be 30 limits that people did 40 through because they have no pedestrians and are wide enough to fit 8 cars side by side. I'm not going to suddenly start trundling through there at 20 because some idiot council woman got them to stick a pole up with a number on it.

SWoll

18,380 posts

258 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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mikemike08 said:
110mph, you irresponsible tt. Dont you know each time you go past 93mph one new born baby dies ?
Came back from the continent where the average speed is 90mph, done 4000 miles and not seen 1 crash. And i reckon its busier there than here and the motorway is just a dual carriageway ffs
Always one...

Anecdotal evidence is so very compelling isn't it? I've just got back myself and seen the aftermath of 2 or 3.

UK drivers are not used to being overtaken at 110+ so therefore it is a dangerous practice. Add to that the difficulty in judging closing speeds at night and bad weather and it's stupid behaviour as the OP admits. Quite why you are suggesting it isn't is beyond me.

AH33 said:
No, the road is a 50, but for no good reason. For years it was a 70, its a straight dual carriageway - the A1!. 80 in a 70 isn't a problem, just because they change it to a 50 doesn't automatically make 70 dangerous. Everyone does it anyway. If you sit at 50 you'll be passed by absolutely everything.

60% over the limit sounds bad, but really it's only a problem in certain places.

Some of the 20 zones here used to be 30 limits that people did 40 through because they have no pedestrians and are wide enough to fit 8 cars side by side. I'm not going to suddenly start trundling through there at 20 because some idiot council woman got them to stick a pole up with a number on it.
Again, it's for no good reason in 'your opinion'. Unless you've got access to all of the accident statistics and development plans for that piece of road you have no idea whether it's justified or not.

Always love the 'everyone does it anyway' reasoning, a good basis to live your life by I always think.

And, are you really always in so much of a rush that dropping a few MPH every now and then causes a massive problem? If so, you could probably do with leaving earlier?


Edited by SWoll on Friday 26th August 10:47