Have I just been banned from driving :( :( UK
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AH33 said:
AMGJocky said:
Get down to Castle Combe and drive 'quickly' rather on the roads my family use. Don't care if I sound like a stiff, you come across as a prize ..
Driving fast is not driving stupidly. Your family are more at risk from the dozy mare who pulls into your lane without signalling or tries to drive the wrong way down the motorway. You'll never get that from me.A track day at Castle Combe is £170. Then there's actually getting there, the fuel, tyres, the special insurance and massively increased chance of a crash. Or I could just enjoy my car on the road, within reason.
ETA - It's also in Wiltshire and i'm in Scotland. Fair way to go just go get my foot down a bit
I don't want to come across as some traffic weaving fast and the furious wannabe, i'm really not. I just can't see why you'd reduce a 70mph DC to a 50 and what was fine for years is suddenly "dangerous". It isn't.
Edited by AH33 on Friday 26th August 11:27
Castle Combe was just an example, although maybe make a weekend of it at some point, you'll enjoy it!Speed limits aren't just plucked out of thin air and I'd be hypocritical if I were to say I've never sped, however I have had some nasty experiences before hand due to speed and it can often act as a wake up call. Maybe it's the way you were articulating yourself which made me think you were rather obnoxious. Don't mind being proven wrong, happy to be in fact.
Dr Jekyll said:
Fascinating logic here. Either you are sticking rigidly to the speed on the sign irrespective of circumstances, or you are driving at whatever speed you like irrespective of the consequences. Apparently there is no other option.
Speaking of logic, not sure how you can deduce that I drive at whatever speed I like from what I said. What I was saying was mainly pointed at the below statement, which I think is quite a moronic thing to say. As I said above, speed limits aren't changed for no reason. I live in Bristol where it's all 20mph and the vast majority of people stick to it.. you get used to it eventually.AH33 said:
I'm not going to suddenly start trundling through there at 20 because some idiot council woman got them to stick a pole up with a number on it.
I think you'll be OK. I may have been doing a certain speed on a deserted dual carriageway and on slowing for a roundabout, realized there was a marked police car closing from behind me at a rate of knots. He slowed alongside me, wave his hand with palm downwards in a "slow down" gesture, and went on his way. Oddly he gave the blue lights a quick burst as he pulled away from me. I think in the circumstances I wasn't being a danger to anyone, and he recognized that. Nobody went to court, no-one was hurt, and I haven't done the same since.
Good policing in my opinion.
Good policing in my opinion.
red_slr said:
Q5, plain clothes, one up. My thought is not police
This. There are quite a few 'agencies' out there that have official rapid response vehicles. Boys from Hereford are an example to name just one. I had the same experience years ago when a black Range Rover followed me well above 100mph then turned on the blue lights. When I slowed down expecting the worst, it pulled up beside me, the bloke in the passenger side gave me the finger, then they sped off!!! And it wasn't some DIY blue strobe light job either.VF7 said:
OP, Why are you giving so much details regarding the actual speed you where driving at?
I wouldn't dare writing this on the internet. Why not simply write "we went fast/a bit faster than allowed/and then a bit faster again" rather than writing 90+/110+?
Or am I just paranoid? Could you get prosecuted due to such a post? (honest question)
I very much doubt you could get prosecuted for claiming something on the internet, unless you had a dashcam video or similar to accompany your claim.I wouldn't dare writing this on the internet. Why not simply write "we went fast/a bit faster than allowed/and then a bit faster again" rather than writing 90+/110+?
Or am I just paranoid? Could you get prosecuted due to such a post? (honest question)
For example: I did 130mph last night, in a 50mph zone, in my 320D
How do you know if this is true or a complete fallacy to get some attention?
longbow said:
red_slr said:
Q5, plain clothes, one up. My thought is not police
This. There are quite a few 'agencies' out there that have official rapid response vehicles. Boys from Hereford are an example to name just one. I had the same experience years ago when a black Range Rover followed me well above 100mph then turned on the blue lights. When I slowed down expecting the worst, it pulled up beside me, the bloke in the passenger side gave me the finger, then they sped off!!! And it wasn't some DIY blue strobe light job either.
AH33 said:
AMGJocky said:
Get down to Castle Combe and drive 'quickly' rather on the roads my family use. Don't care if I sound like a stiff, you come across as a prize ..
...and massively increased chance of a crash. Edited by AH33 on Friday 26th August 11:27
Before I get accused of not trying I was highly competitive and was regularly at the top of my class and on a night road rally posted stage times in the top 15 of over 100 entrants (not UK road rallying - proper roads closed stage rallies in NZ). I drove a Mini Cooper S and was regularly competing against far more powerful and exotic machinery.
Your risk of a crash on a circuit is related to your own ability to control your vehicle and predict other drivers actions, just as it is on the road.
As said - if you want to drive fast do it on a track. You'll learn more, be safer doing it and will endanger fewer people.
Jimbobjr88 said:
Edin430 said:
Am I the only one wondering why you would post your speed and illegal driving openly on a forum for all to see?
If you look at the words I've used, I'm not incriminating myself. I may have does not mean I did. I may have been going 69mph actually, I can't rememberNewChurch said:
Jimbobjr88 said:
heading up to Darlington on the A168 which is a dual carriageway
A168 isn't a dual carriageway and doesn't go to Darlington. But that's irrelevant, the A1 was open all last night so why didn't you go that way, it's by far the quickest way to Darlington!
AMGJocky said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Speed limits are increasingly plucked out of the air and changed on the whim of the councilors. Often against the advice of police and traffic engineers.
Citation please.A bypass in Waltham Abbey in Essex in the 90s that was recommended by the engineers to have a 40 limit, The council ignored this and put in a 30, then months later agreed to put it up to 40, effectively admitting they were wrong in the first place. I think it was also Essex that was told that particular road didn't need a limit reduction, so installed a crash barrier alongside it then announced that the crash barrier made it more dangerous and a reduction in the limit was now justified.
Nearly every single carriageway NSL on Warwickshire had it's limit reduced to 50 over a period of a several months a few years ago. Are you seriously claiming that the conditions all changed at the same time? The main exception was the Fosse way which really did have an accident problem so traffic engineers were left to deal with it. They did introduce safety measures, but no doubt to the chagrin of the council didn't think a speed limit reduction was appropriate.
I did some advanced training on the bike last year with a senior serving officer who also trains police riders.
His attitude to speed limits was: always obey 30s and 40s. Most 50s except where they're 'political'. NSLs are where you have your fun. But obviously don't top the ton anywhere because it's just not safe on UK roads.
The whole day was about making safe progress. I had a lot of fun, brushed up my skills and it reinforced my views about safe speed.
We often touched 85 on NSL roads where open and well sighted.
I think tge attitude you give off will have most to do with how you are treated if you are observed well over the limit. My approach in general is have fun but dont take the piss.
110 in the wet definitely falls into tge taking the piss category...although I can see how it might be quite easy to in ghe situation described by the OP. Assuming the Q5 driver was plod it was probably that he observed your driving earlier that madd him judge a warning shot of the blue lights would be enough to get you to reassess your speed. Sensible policing as others have said.
His attitude to speed limits was: always obey 30s and 40s. Most 50s except where they're 'political'. NSLs are where you have your fun. But obviously don't top the ton anywhere because it's just not safe on UK roads.
The whole day was about making safe progress. I had a lot of fun, brushed up my skills and it reinforced my views about safe speed.
We often touched 85 on NSL roads where open and well sighted.
I think tge attitude you give off will have most to do with how you are treated if you are observed well over the limit. My approach in general is have fun but dont take the piss.
110 in the wet definitely falls into tge taking the piss category...although I can see how it might be quite easy to in ghe situation described by the OP. Assuming the Q5 driver was plod it was probably that he observed your driving earlier that madd him judge a warning shot of the blue lights would be enough to get you to reassess your speed. Sensible policing as others have said.
Dr Jekyll said:
AMGJocky said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Speed limits are increasingly plucked out of the air and changed on the whim of the councilors. Often against the advice of police and traffic engineers.
Citation please.A bypass in Waltham Abbey in Essex in the 90s that was recommended by the engineers to have a 40 limit, The council ignored this and put in a 30, then months later agreed to put it up to 40, effectively admitting they were wrong in the first place. I think it was also Essex that was told that particular road didn't need a limit reduction, so installed a crash barrier alongside it then announced that the crash barrier made it more dangerous and a reduction in the limit was now justified.
Nearly every single carriageway NSL on Warwickshire had it's limit reduced to 50 over a period of a several months a few years ago. Are you seriously claiming that the conditions all changed at the same time? The main exception was the Fosse way which really did have an accident problem so traffic engineers were left to deal with it. They did introduce safety measures, but no doubt to the chagrin of the council didn't think a speed limit reduction was appropriate.
SWoll said:
Dr Jekyll said:
AMGJocky said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Speed limits are increasingly plucked out of the air and changed on the whim of the councilors. Often against the advice of police and traffic engineers.
Citation please.A bypass in Waltham Abbey in Essex in the 90s that was recommended by the engineers to have a 40 limit, The council ignored this and put in a 30, then months later agreed to put it up to 40, effectively admitting they were wrong in the first place. I think it was also Essex that was told that particular road didn't need a limit reduction, so installed a crash barrier alongside it then announced that the crash barrier made it more dangerous and a reduction in the limit was now justified.
Nearly every single carriageway NSL on Warwickshire had it's limit reduced to 50 over a period of a several months a few years ago. Are you seriously claiming that the conditions all changed at the same time? The main exception was the Fosse way which really did have an accident problem so traffic engineers were left to deal with it. They did introduce safety measures, but no doubt to the chagrin of the council didn't think a speed limit reduction was appropriate.
I think with going fast depends on the car, if your in a c63 or m5 or a car made to go fast doing a 100mph+ often feels like your doing 70 or 80 as your not really stretching the capabilities of the car and also with better brakes and better tyres than a standard mondeo or c class would mean you could stop faster and handle better. I am not agreeing speeding or driving badly I am just saying doing higher speeds in cars meant for it isn't as dangerous as someone doing 95mph in a fiesta or standard focus.
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