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PoleDriver

28,637 posts

194 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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bhstewie said:
It's still a little bizarre how many people I see in new BMWs, Range Rovers, and various vehicles that will clearly have bluetooth built in but still drive along holding their phone to their ear.

I get that not using the phone is smarter, but when you have bluetooth it's a little odd not to use it.
They're probably so stupid that they either don't know their car has Bluetooth or don't know what Bluetooth is for or just don't know how to use it!

Megaflow

9,410 posts

225 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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PoleDriver said:
bhstewie said:
It's still a little bizarre how many people I see in new BMWs, Range Rovers, and various vehicles that will clearly have bluetooth built in but still drive along holding their phone to their ear.

I get that not using the phone is smarter, but when you have bluetooth it's a little odd not to use it.
They're probably so stupid that they either don't know their car has Bluetooth or don't know what Bluetooth is for or just don't know how to use it!
Funny enough it's always Mercedes I see with the driver on the phone, and I always assume the same, to stupid to know the Bluetooth exists or how to use it.

poo at Paul's

14,147 posts

175 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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got my missus a simple Halfords holder for her phone fits in the vent on a rubber spike, and expands to size of phone. Simple, works well, less than a tenner. She uses her phone for Nav etc, all works well. Doesn't look st and doesn't need any crap stuck to the windscreen or in the dash.

Ki3r

7,818 posts

159 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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hosedoctor said:
Thanks for the replies chaps,th be honest its my own fault but just wanted to see if I could bull plop my way out of it! Damm Essex police and there unmarked cars!! LOL
I stopped a lorry driver a few months ago for using his, he denied it, despite two of us seeing his fingers using the touch screen.

In court he still denied using it, saying he was putting it in the cradle.

He was fkind guilty of using a mobile

offshorematt2

864 posts

216 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Genuine question which I've been meaning to ask for a while; in my Defender I listen to an iPod through a 3.5in jack. Whilst I don't mess with it while on the move, I have on occasion changed play list or whatever whilst sitting at traffic lights. Is this an offence? As I understand it, if I was changing music tracks on my iphone rather than an iPod, I'd be breaking a pretty specific piece of legislation - does this apply to other devices? If not, it's all pretty nonsensical!

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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offshorematt2 said:
Genuine question which I've been meaning to ask for a while; in my Defender I listen to an iPod through a 3.5in jack. Whilst I don't mess with it while on the move, I have on occasion changed play list or whatever whilst sitting at traffic lights. Is this an offence? As I understand it, if I was changing music tracks on my iphone rather than an iPod, I'd be breaking a pretty specific piece of legislation - does this apply to other devices? If not, it's all pretty nonsensical!
Some of it is, like most areas of law, nonsensical.

Just back from a tour of the highlands where the wife and I took her aging mother. Our driver spent half his time on the mic regaling us alternately with funny stories or a potted history of the Jacobite Risings etc.

I am not in any way supporting the use of phones when driving but how is the above allowed?

thatsprettyshady

1,824 posts

165 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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anonymous said:
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If OP's story about just checking the time is true then I see no problem with that, it's a shame as getting caught out and getting points feels harsh as no doubt we all do things that are equally distracting on a daily basis. The police have zero tolerance for this sort of thing, you won't escape it.

Driving around whist yapping away on a phone is bloody stupid however.

p1esk

4,914 posts

196 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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REALIST123 said:
offshorematt2 said:
Genuine question which I've been meaning to ask for a while; in my Defender I listen to an iPod through a 3.5in jack. Whilst I don't mess with it while on the move, I have on occasion changed play list or whatever whilst sitting at traffic lights. Is this an offence? As I understand it, if I was changing music tracks on my iphone rather than an iPod, I'd be breaking a pretty specific piece of legislation - does this apply to other devices? If not, it's all pretty nonsensical!
Some of it is, like most areas of law, nonsensical.

Just back from a tour of the highlands where the wife and I took her aging mother. Our driver spent half his time on the mic regaling us alternately with funny stories or a potted history of the Jacobite Risings etc.

I am not in any way supporting the use of phones when driving but how is the above allowed?
I don't know, but that also sounds potentially troublesome to me. It has to amount to some degree of distraction from the task of driving.

However, when a mobile phone is in use the main danger is claimed to come from the distraction caused by carrying on a conversation with a person who is not in the vehicle with you. Given that hands-free phone usage is still legal, this seems to make the law a bit nonsensical so I do not support the law in its current form.

My sympathies lie with the OP. He could equally well have picked up another type of device to check the time, and that would, in effect, have been just the same as looking at the time display on his phone; and yet one is lawful and the other is not.


Edited by p1esk on Sunday 28th August 08:49

R0G

4,986 posts

155 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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How come the vehicle does not have a clock display on the dash ?

p1esk

4,914 posts

196 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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R0G said:
How come the vehicle does not have a clock display on the dash ?
I suppose most do, but some may not - as has been pointed out by other posters.

bitchstewie

51,207 posts

210 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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thatsprettyshady said:
If OP's story about just checking the time is true then I see no problem with that, it's a shame as getting caught out and getting points feels harsh as no doubt we all do things that are equally distracting on a daily basis. The police have zero tolerance for this sort of thing, you won't escape it.

Driving around whist yapping away on a phone is bloody stupid however.
I kind of agree with that, and whilst I wouldn't want to suggest the OP isn't being accurate, it does feel like you'd have to be incredibly unlucky to get caught by a Police Officer in the second (literally) that it takes to glance at your phone screen to see what time it is.

Hackney

6,841 posts

208 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Eric The Camel said:
bhstewie said:
I'm going to risk sounding like a dick but I thought just about every single car imaginable had a clock in it? confused
My little Mii doesn't.
Does the dash show the temp? If it does, there's a button below that which means you can switch to the time. At least there is in my wife's. God knows why it defaults to temp rather time.

Hackney

6,841 posts

208 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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hosedoctor said:
BOF said:
Six points on license for using phone while driving.

Second offence - twelve months suspension.

End of story?

BOF
Is that what they hand out now? Or just your opinion??
Clearly whatever is in place now is not enough of a deterrent.
Phone in hand = instant one week ban from driving and 3 points, would that work?

mycroft

1,545 posts

247 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Megaflow said:
PoleDriver said:
bhstewie said:
It's still a little bizarre how many people I see in new BMWs, Range Rovers, and various vehicles that will clearly have bluetooth built in but still drive along holding their phone to their ear.

I get that not using the phone is smarter, but when you have bluetooth it's a little odd not to use it.
They're probably so stupid that they either don't know their car has Bluetooth or don't know what Bluetooth is for or just don't know how to use it!
Funny enough it's always Mercedes I see with the driver on the phone, and I always assume the same, to stupid to know the Bluetooth exists or how to use it.
If you cant programme a Bluetooth you shouldn't be able to operate heavy machinery ; like a car . Just changed my phone and it took under five mins to reset my freelander2 that has the same system as more expensive LR products . Crush cars of phone users , see how quickly it stops.

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

181 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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bhstewie said:
thatsprettyshady said:
If OP's story about just checking the time is true then I see no problem with that, it's a shame as getting caught out and getting points feels harsh as no doubt we all do things that are equally distracting on a daily basis. The police have zero tolerance for this sort of thing, you won't escape it.

Driving around whist yapping away on a phone is bloody stupid however.
I kind of agree with that, and whilst I wouldn't want to suggest the OP isn't being accurate, it does feel like you'd have to be incredibly unlucky to get caught by a Police Officer in the second (literally) that it takes to glance at your phone screen to see what time it is.
I don't. I think it's fairly clear the OP wouldn't be checking the time as that's there in the car. I had a car that didn't have a clock, but I know they're extremely rare. I would be fairly confident that 'checking the time' would be 'checking txt' or 'checking fb'. And if it weren't, the law cannot allow such a stty excuse anyway. Mobile use while driving, at lights or not, is a real issue, probably the most dangerous new driving issue.


CoolHands

18,633 posts

195 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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I don't use bluetooth so have no idea - but people using bluetooth presumably you still have to touch the screen to dial contacts so isn't that an offence? I presume not all phones have siri type thing where you can use instructions to dial.

bitchstewie

51,207 posts

210 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Google [bot] said:
I don't. I think it's fairly clear the OP wouldn't be checking the time as that's there in the car. I had a car that didn't have a clock, but I know they're extremely rare. I would be fairly confident that 'checking the time' would be 'checking txt' or 'checking fb'. And if it weren't, the law cannot allow such a stty excuse anyway. Mobile use while driving, at lights or not, is a real issue, probably the most dangerous new driving issue.
Like I said, I don't really want to call out the OP on his checking the "time" as only he knows what really happened, but given he's already done one awareness course I have my doubts that's what really happened.

I'm sure Police Officers must encounter a lot of people checking the time with their phones by their ears.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Learn your fking lesson, OP before you kill someone because you can't stay off your phone for 30 minutes.

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

181 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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By their ears is the lesser danger. Text, fb, Instagram is what is causing the issue.

thatsprettyshady

1,824 posts

165 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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anonymous said:
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Obviously we can only go on what the OP states which has to be assumed accurate, unless anyone here has evidence to the contrary?

It's pointless to speculate but equally pointless lying to/misleading those who are trying to help and advise, especially if said people are a bunch of strangers on the internet who will most likely not give a toss what you were up to.