Nicked on phone
Discussion
CoolHands said:
I don't use bluetooth so have no idea - but people using bluetooth presumably you still have to touch the screen to dial contacts so isn't that an offence? I presume not all phones have siri type thing where you can use instructions to dial.
Infotainment systems in newer cars now upload the list of recent calls and the phone book from your phone when you connect.When I say newer, our 56 reg car does this.
you can then scroll through using either the buttons on the dash, or the steering wheel controls.
Edited by talksthetorque on Sunday 28th August 11:26
talksthetorque said:
CoolHands said:
I don't use bluetooth so have no idea - but people using bluetooth presumably you still have to touch the screen to dial contacts so isn't that an offence? I presume not all phones have siri type thing where you can use instructions to dial.
Infotainment systems in newer cars now upload the list of recent calls and the phone book from your phone when you connect.When I say newer, our 56 reg car does this.
you can then scroll through using either the butons on the dash, or the steering wheel controls.
hosedoctor said:
Hi guys,I think I already know the answer to this question but just wanted to clarify it. I was pulled over the other day by the boys in blue,I know everyone says this but I really wasn't on my phone,I was looking at the time on it,the officer even agree I wasn't. He kindly put me up for an awareness course,but I have already done one in the last 6 months so will probably end up getting points. My question is,is it worth putting up a fight? (Not literally) LOL
Contact Emma Patterson at Patterson Law. Most of the advice here is rubbish/ignorant. Holding a phone is not an offence, according to the specialist legal advice that I have received.marshalla said:
Probably not. The offence is "using" not "definitely making or receiving a call on". Anything which involves holding the phone can be classed as using.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/2695/regul...
Not really.http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/2695/regul...
talksthetorque said:
GC8 said:
Contact Emma Patterson at Patterson Law. Most of the advice here is rubbish/ignorant. Holding a phone is not an offence, according to the specialist legal advice that I have received.
Do tell. Just to save us all bothering Emma.Hackney said:
hosedoctor said:
BOF said:
Six points on license for using phone while driving.
Second offence - twelve months suspension.
End of story?
BOF
Is that what they hand out now? Or just your opinion??Second offence - twelve months suspension.
End of story?
BOF
Phone in hand = instant one week ban from driving and 3 points, would that work?
I appreciate that the general feeling here is that there should be more of a clampdown on mobile phone use by drivers, but quite frankly I don't think it would be justified - not with the irrational state of the current law.
GC8 said:
talksthetorque said:
GC8 said:
Contact Emma Patterson at Patterson Law. Most of the advice here is rubbish/ignorant. Holding a phone is not an offence, according to the specialist legal advice that I have received.
Do tell. Just to save us all bothering Emma.That takes me to a blog with over 50 posts.
I could work my way through them but as this is a forum with a question asking for advice perhaps you'd like to link to the exact bit in question to be helpful,rather than being condescending and aggressive?
GC8 said:
talksthetorque said:
GC8 said:
Contact Emma Patterson at Patterson Law. Most of the advice here is rubbish/ignorant. Holding a phone is not an offence, according to the specialist legal advice that I have received.
Do tell. Just to save us all bothering Emma.thatsprettyshady said:
GC8 said:
talksthetorque said:
GC8 said:
Contact Emma Patterson at Patterson Law. Most of the advice here is rubbish/ignorant. Holding a phone is not an offence, according to the specialist legal advice that I have received.
Do tell. Just to save us all bothering Emma.
As the OP on this I have to say that I'm not that surprised at all the negative replies on this,but I was only asking for a bit of advice,why do all the self righteous dick heads have to pile in with their clever comments,so no one has ever done anything wrong in a car! Why do people assume I'm lying when I say I was checking the time,to clarify I was in a 2015 Porsche and yes it does have a clock,yes it has Bluetooth! I was looking at my phone for the time to see how my watch was keeping time! It's no big deal really is it girls,but oh no some of you have to sit in your mum and dads spare room with your graphic novels spouting crap! This site used to be good but I'm afraid that as soon as anyone puts something on here that they don't like/agree with they start.
hosedoctor said:
As the OP on this I have to say that I'm not that surprised at all the negative replies on this,but I was only asking for a bit of advice,why do all the self righteous dick heads have to pile in with their clever comments,so no one has ever done anything wrong in a car! Why do people assume I'm lying when I say I was checking the time,to clarify I was in a 2015 Porsche and yes it does have a clock,yes it has Bluetooth! I was looking at my phone for the time to see how my watch was keeping time! It's no big deal really is it girls,but oh no some of you have to sit in your mum and dads spare room with your graphic novels spouting crap! This site used to be good but I'm afraid that as soon as anyone puts something on here that they don't like/agree with they start.
People usually post when moved to do so.It seems you think it is OK to be driving a 2015 Porsche while synchronising the time between you phone and your watch. You are right there are some dick-heads posting...driving too it would seem.
Edited by tapereel on Sunday 28th August 12:57
CAPP0 said:
IMO:
I wasn't trying to be argumentative I was asking if that was what is right,if you look at BOF does he would probably know better than most on here,that's why I asked the question in the first place. hosedoctor said:
BOF said:
One month suspension for first detected offence of using phone while driving.
Second offence - twelve months suspension.
End of story?
BOF
Is that what they hand out now? Or just your opinion??Second offence - twelve months suspension.
End of story?
BOF
hosedoctor said:
As the OP on this I have to say that I'm not that surprised at all the negative replies on this,but I was only asking for a bit of advice,why do all the self righteous dick heads have to pile in with their clever comments,so no one has ever done anything wrong in a car! Why do people assume I'm lying when I say I was checking the time,to clarify I was in a 2015 Porsche and yes it does have a clock,yes it has Bluetooth! I was looking at my phone for the time to see how my watch was keeping time! It's no big deal really is it girls,but oh no some of you have to sit in your mum and dads spare room with your graphic novels spouting crap! This site used to be good but I'm afraid that as soon as anyone puts something on here that they don't like/agree with they start.
Listen chap, if I act like a weapons grade prat I don't come on PH and shout about it, because, guess what, I'd be told I'm a weapons grade prat !You've been stupid enough to ask a really stupid question and you've been called out for it. What you did was stupid - I and others don't believe your story and your latest statement about your watch sounds even less believable.
Suck it up, learn from it, use Bluetooth and a phone holder, or like many people, put your phone away when driving and focus on the important job you're supposed to be doing.
hosedoctor said:
As the OP on this I have to say that I'm not that surprised at all the negative replies on this,but I was only asking for a bit of advice,why do all the self righteous dick heads have to pile in with their clever comments,so no one has ever done anything wrong in a car! Why do people assume I'm lying when I say I was checking the time,to clarify I was in a 2015 Porsche and yes it does have a clock,yes it has Bluetooth! I was looking at my phone for the time to see how my watch was keeping time! It's no big deal really is it girls,but oh no some of you have to sit in your mum and dads spare room with your graphic novels spouting crap! This site used to be good but I'm afraid that as soon as anyone puts something on here that they don't like/agree with they start.
I think it's you who need to calm down a bit.You were trying to get advice on something and (most) posters have replied saying you've been caught bang to rights - on the basis you were caught "using a handheld defice", rather than "being on the phone"
I'm not going to argue which is right or wrong, but presumably you were seen with a mobile phone in your hand. If you weren't using it, why did you have it in your hand?
And in your post above, while driving you picked up a phone to check the time with your wrist watch and the car has a clock. In terms of not being distracted, or eyes on the road for the maximum time possible, why did you need to do it at that time [no pun intended]. Couldn't you have waited? Couldn't you check your watch with your car's clock? Is your wrist watch likely to be so wrong as to make you very late, is that the impact? In that case a check with the car clock would suffice.
Although another poster has suggested (quite rudely) everyone on PH call a specific lawyer to ask her, the consensus seems to be DON'T HAVE A PHONE IN YOUR HAND WHILE DRIVING. As someone who's been caught once for this and punished you'd think you'd have more insight than most. Apparently not.
You'd rather ask the question, read the replies, then come back with silly comments ("no big deal is it girls") when you don't get the reply you wanted.
I tell you what, get rid of the phone and put the money you save each month towards a decent watch that keeps time. Job done.
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