Blocked from overtaking

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Red 5

1,058 posts

181 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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There is another breed of 'Blocker' that I've had the amusement of arguing with!

They have decided, upon spotting your 'move' without any forethought and awakening from their stupor, that you are behaving in a dangerous manner and might cause harm to yourself, or even them!

So, they block you from passing to 'School' you in the art of safer progress! THEY are driving at the maximum safe speed for the road and conditions, so NOBODY shall pass!!!

Amazing attitude problem on these people that is quite unshakable. They can't grasp that a competent driver, with good planning, in a decent car, might be safe to overtake them.

I think these are amongst the most wilfully dangerous drivers on the road. They think they save countless people from death on every journey and pat themselves on the back smugly frown

catman

2,490 posts

176 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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Red 5 said:
There is another breed of 'Blocker' that I've had the amusement of arguing with!

They have decided, upon spotting your 'move' without any forethought and awakening from their stupor, that you are behaving in a dangerous manner and might cause harm to yourself, or even them!

So, they block you from passing to 'School' you in the art of safer progress! THEY are driving at the maximum safe speed for the road and conditions, so NOBODY shall pass!!!

Amazing attitude problem on these people that is quite unshakable. They can't grasp that a competent driver, with good planning, in a decent car, might be safe to overtake them.

I think these are amongst the most wilfully dangerous drivers on the road. They think they save countless people from death on every journey and pat themselves on the back smugly frown
Would be highly amusing if they tried that on an un-marked Police car. I'm getting wound up, just reading that!

Tim

Red 5

1,058 posts

181 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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catman said:
Would be highly amusing if they tried that on an un-marked Police car. I'm getting wound up, just reading that!

Tim
Just to be clear, I had this 'chat' with somebody, but it wasn't as a result of them doing it to me thankfully!

They were describing smugly how they help other people learn to be safer drivers, using this among other techniques!!!

At this point I interjected, with an unplanned verbal WTF, along with matching facial expressions wobble

I was convincing enough that others joined me in my indignation, until the point our self appointed 'Saviour' performed another manuver at which he seemed well practiced. He flounced off smile

SPRocco

21 posts

104 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Guybrush said:
I think the problem with the blockers is more deep seated than merely a righteousness from a driving point of view. I'm sure they have a failure complex and see someone overtaking them on the road as somehow synonymous with how they are losing in life and to block someone from overtaking them is the only way they can have an effect on someone else, to assuage their feelings of failure elsewhere in their life.
I had a conversation at work recently with a woman who openly admitted she gets angry if someone wants to overtake her laugh

This definitely exists, outrage at someone wanting to pass!

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

141 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Took some junk to the tip at the weekend, had my father in law with me, never again. Sat at a set of lights, car pulls up to the right of us, lights green, pull away, father in law start giving the other driver the v's and ranting at him from the passenger seat. I pulled over and asked him wtf he was doing, his answer was the other car didn't need to over take us and should have slowed down. I told him his daughter uses the car and he'd just possibly wound up a nutter who could take offence next time he sees the car, rest of the trip was in silence. He's done it before on motorways and dual carriageways, how he hasn't got battered or run off the road astounds me.

Usget

5,426 posts

212 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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The blockers live on the motorways, too.

Doing 85mph, approach car doing 75mph. Pull into L3 to overtake. Car in L2 notices, thinks "gosh, I appear to be dawdling", and increases speed until you are alongside, still doing 85mph, and so are they.

The really belligerent ones will bump the speed up to 90 so you have to drop in behind. Then they'll drop back to 75mph again. Only if you manage to complete the overtake and pull in front do most of them give up.

It must be hard to remember to breathe in and out on schedule when you're that fking stupid.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

171 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Red 5 said:
There is another breed of 'Blocker' that I've had the amusement of arguing with!

They have decided, upon spotting your 'move' without any forethought and awakening from their stupor, that you are behaving in a dangerous manner and might cause harm to yourself, or even them!

So, they block you from passing to 'School' you in the art of safer progress! THEY are driving at the maximum safe speed for the road and conditions, so NOBODY shall pass!!!

Amazing attitude problem on these people that is quite unshakable. They can't grasp that a competent driver, with good planning, in a decent car, might be safe to overtake them.

I think these are amongst the most wilfully dangerous drivers on the road. They think they save countless people from death on every journey and pat themselves on the back smugly frown
I don't think I've ever read a more unintentionally ironic, arrogant, hypercritical and self-unaware post!

You, just as bad as 'them'!

SeeFive

8,280 posts

234 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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It has happened to me twice but with a slightly different outcome.

Pulled out to pass a car as we entered a shortish dual carriageway after him dawdling along ahead of me on a two lane black top 20mph under the 50 limit in great conditions for miles. Another on an almost empty motorway, speed set to safe but slightly illegal cruise late at night.

Both times, the following happened. Once I got clear in front and checked my mirror to signal and pull back to lane 1, the car I had just passed was accelerating beyond the speed limit and undertaking me!

Oddly, both times it was a policeman in an unmarked car, and I was stopped. One occurrence cost me 3 points and a fine as I had to either slam on, or release lots of available horses to complete the manoeuvre as we were coming to the end of the short dual carriageway section.

I will try to put this politely and not invoke the swear filter. These specific officers do nothing for the reputation of good trafpol.

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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When posting on FacePalm, the person said they had no idea why they became a road rage victim.


[All they did was teach the other person a 'valuable lesson' by by forcing them off the road a number of times whilst giving them the v sign and coffee bean shake]


Nobody ever hears about the bit in brackets, but you just know that there is a background to every story.
rolleyes


Without these morons, there wouldn't be any road rage.

Red 5

1,058 posts

181 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Mr GrimNasty said:
I don't think I've ever read a more unintentionally ironic, arrogant, hypercritical and self-unaware post!

You, just as bad as 'them'!
I've not described an incident that happened to me, myself, or any of my driving habits / behaviours.

I didn't set out, or speak this confrontation with a stranger. It was sombody I vaguely knew, spouting this right in front of me!
It then transpired that they perform this 'service' for yours and my benefit, along with similar behaviours on all classes of road, most of the time!


How does your attitude differ to mine on this subject? In posting the above short pop at me, you add nothing to this conversation, so please elaborate.

I was speaking to a persons who likes to police the roads in the manner, who I think any sane person would agree, is a very bad idea. Do you not agree?

I don't do this, or share any of this persons attitudes and I've yet to meet their ilk on the roads.

So I am now and will remain hyper hypercritical of this behaviuor (or even more than that if you prefer)
I'm very well aware of my scathing attitude towards them on the subject.

Red 5

1,058 posts

181 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Usget said:
The blockers live on the motorways, too.

Doing 85mph, approach car doing 75mph. Pull into L3 to overtake. Car in L2 notices, thinks "gosh, I appear to be dawdling", and increases speed until you are alongside, still doing 85mph, and so are they.

The really belligerent ones will bump the speed up to 90 so you have to drop in behind. Then they'll drop back to 75mph again. Only if you manage to complete the overtake and pull in front do most of them give up.

It must be hard to remember to breathe in and out on schedule when you're that fking stupid.
This happens on almost all decent motorway drives and seems to be more of a thing on the continent!

This person also drives next to a car they are passing in lane 2, causing a hold up in lane three for ages, then adds 25mph as they move left after they've eventually completed their pass!

But at least they don't physically move over and try to stop the pass at the last minute, rising life and limb of all concerned!
This seems more like an ingrained habit though, rather than wilfully being dangerous yes?

cirian75

4,263 posts

234 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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happens all the time on motorways.

we all see it.

middle lane hog doing 65, you come up and overtake and doing 70, before you know it, he is still along side and your doing 85.

you just drop behind and let em get on with it, they usually stay at 70/75 after that.


But done on normal roads stopping someone overtaking when they have judged it safe, exposing them on coming cars that would have been zero issue if the person being overtaken had maintained speed or drop it a little.

Most of these fools seem to drive turbo diesels so they have nice midrange grunt too = even more dangerous fool.

Frik

13,542 posts

244 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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I think a lot of it comes from the British mentality for queuing. "How dare someone jump the queue!"

This is also why people are so reluctant to merge in turn and either move over far too early making a queue of traffic longer or make it awkward for the person legitimately using an empty lane to pull in.

This doesn't apply to motorways and closed lanes by the way, as it seems a lot of people apparent don't know what a red cross means.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Hol said:
When posting on FacePalm, the person said they had no idea why they became a road rage victim.


[All they did was teach the other person a 'valuable lesson' by by forcing them off the road a number of times whilst giving them the v sign and coffee bean shake]


Nobody ever hears about the bit in brackets, but you just know that there is a background to every story.
rolleyes


Without these morons, there wouldn't be any road rage.
And this is entirely why dashcam videos are so bloody entertaining...

Usget

5,426 posts

212 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Red 5 said:
This seems more like an ingrained habit though, rather than wilfully being dangerous yes?
Personally I think it's the same mealy-mouthed mentality of "wait your turn, young man!" but, just as you say, with a far less dangerous outcome.

herewego

8,814 posts

214 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Queuing is a perfectly fair, logical, sensible behaviour though isn't it?

Red 5

1,058 posts

181 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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herewego said:
Queuing is a perfectly fair, logical, sensible behaviour though isn't it?
Yes.

So long as you are behind me wink

Red 5

1,058 posts

181 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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DP!

Edited by Red 5 on Tuesday 6th September 09:29

V8RX7

26,903 posts

264 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Traffic lights this morning, dual carriageway merging into single, 100m after the lights, which are on red.

I pull into the empty right lane and sit 3m back from the line, Focus in left lane literally turns right trying to block my lane as the lights change.

I moved slightly right and nearly traded mirrors as I went past him.





Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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herewego said:
Queuing is a perfectly fair, logical, sensible behaviour though isn't it?
So is merging in turn, especially when there's a big sign saying "merge in turn".