Blocked from overtaking
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Some people just can't handle being overtaken, wherever they are...
Last Thursday I pulled up along a Nissan Joke at a set of traffic lights (2 lanes straight ahead).
When they changed I pulled away gently in 2nd gear and Nissan Joke driver takes umbrage at having an "old" car next to him so he speeds up and starts to close the gap next to my passenger side...
All I did was press the accelerator and leave him for dead while he starts "shaking dice" ....
Absolutely no rationale for his behaviour, other than he was a knob,as I'd only joined the road 20 seconds earlier from traffic light controlled T junction and pulled up next to him....
Last Thursday I pulled up along a Nissan Joke at a set of traffic lights (2 lanes straight ahead).
When they changed I pulled away gently in 2nd gear and Nissan Joke driver takes umbrage at having an "old" car next to him so he speeds up and starts to close the gap next to my passenger side...
All I did was press the accelerator and leave him for dead while he starts "shaking dice" ....
Absolutely no rationale for his behaviour, other than he was a knob,as I'd only joined the road 20 seconds earlier from traffic light controlled T junction and pulled up next to him....
Atomic12C said:
As opposed to the continental drivers who do the above before overtaking whilst sat 0.5cm from the vehicle in front 
I know each country has its own inbred behaviours.
Germany - approach car in front at 120mph+ whilst flashing lights to say "I have priority here, move over". Then even if car in front is in the process of overtaking the next step is to close the gap to 0.5cm to show intention of "get the fook out of my way". Once car in front has been intimidated enough its then a process of accelerating as fast as possible to the next car that is using lane 2 on the autobahn.
France - rag the shyte out of your 1.1L 3-door badly built hatchback in order to keep pace with other traffic; to show intention of wanting to get past a car in front the tactic employed is to swerve around on the road so that you appear to be a psychotic individual who has run out of medication whilst on the breach of an epileptic fit. Road markings are totally meaningless and the car in front is intimidated to move out of the way whether this is from lane 1 or lane 2 in order the overtaking vehicle can pass.
YES! I find it all a bit strange at times. Waiting patiently to get past a car on the unrestricted autobahn, nice safety distance, only a matter of 20" to wait till he clears the middle lane car and will undoubtedly pull in BUT you now have Johnny Big Balls with his Disco Lights on your bumper being 'held up'. Johnny feels wronged but I don't really understand that. I too put my left indicator on to suggest the bleedin' obvious that I too want to get past, although am being less of a disco d1ck about it! And then when the vehicle in front clears back to the right its very tempting to give the huggy flasher both banks of 6 in his earholes and gallop off to the sunset! However I do still wonder if its me that is breaking their protocol in their land - maybe someone with more German driving experience could comment? I know each country has its own inbred behaviours.
Germany - approach car in front at 120mph+ whilst flashing lights to say "I have priority here, move over". Then even if car in front is in the process of overtaking the next step is to close the gap to 0.5cm to show intention of "get the fook out of my way". Once car in front has been intimidated enough its then a process of accelerating as fast as possible to the next car that is using lane 2 on the autobahn.
France - rag the shyte out of your 1.1L 3-door badly built hatchback in order to keep pace with other traffic; to show intention of wanting to get past a car in front the tactic employed is to swerve around on the road so that you appear to be a psychotic individual who has run out of medication whilst on the breach of an epileptic fit. Road markings are totally meaningless and the car in front is intimidated to move out of the way whether this is from lane 1 or lane 2 in order the overtaking vehicle can pass.
Ken Figenus said:
YES! I find it all a bit strange at times. Waiting patiently to get past a car on the unrestricted autobahn, nice safety distance, only a matter of 20" to wait till he clears the middle lane car and will undoubtedly pull in BUT you now have Johnny Big Balls with his Disco Lights on your bumper being 'held up'. Johnny feels wronged but I don't really understand that. I too put my left indicator on to suggest the bleedin' obvious that I too want to get past, although am being less of a disco d1ck about it! And then when the vehicle in front clears back to the right its very tempting to give the huggy flasher both banks of 6 in his earholes and gallop off to the sunset! However I do still wonder if its me that is breaking their protocol in their land - maybe someone with more German driving experience could comment?
A lot of high-risk driving DE is borne out of impatience. There is no grace period or courtesy, just instant irritation if any delay is incurred to Johnny.llewop said:
A507 Stotfold bypass is another one - see below. I don't think I have ever been along it without someone using the invisible centre lane....
I use that road daily and the amount of 
s that overtake with no regard for who might be coming in the opposite direction royally fks me off. The best ones are those that do it straight off the roundabout at Henlow, who just assume no-one will be there. Pricksnellyleelephant said:
llewop said:
A507 Stotfold bypass is another one - see below. I don't think I have ever been along it without someone using the invisible centre lane....
I use that road daily and the amount of s that overtake with no regard for who might be coming in the opposite direction royally fks me off. The best ones are those that do it straight off the roundabout at Henlow, who just assume no-one will be there. Pricksks you off it's not your place to impede an overtake whether you judge it to be sound or not. You could end up making things worse by causing hesitation and increasing the time exposed to danger for all concerned.AW111 said:
I have seen this a few times.
Queue of cars behind slow-moving vehicle, waiting for an oppertunity to pass, and then when you get one some complete knob at the back of the queue jumps out and tries to pass everyone at once.
I have nearly been rammed by some idiot doing that : I indicated and pulled out to pass, only to be almost run in to by someone doing the "slingshot" thing from two cars back.
Not one for using mirrors then? Queue of cars behind slow-moving vehicle, waiting for an oppertunity to pass, and then when you get one some complete knob at the back of the queue jumps out and tries to pass everyone at once.
I have nearly been rammed by some idiot doing that : I indicated and pulled out to pass, only to be almost run in to by someone doing the "slingshot" thing from two cars back.
LunarOne said:
I'm not saying that you were, but even if it fks you off it's not your place to impede an overtake whether you judge it to be sound or not. You could end up making things worse by causing hesitation and increasing the time exposed to danger for all concerned.
Trust me, I stay as much out of the way as possible! It's cars coming towards me on my side of the road that's the issue.ks you off it's not your place to impede an overtake whether you judge it to be sound or not. You could end up making things worse by causing hesitation and increasing the time exposed to danger for all concerned.rb5er said:
Get a much faster car.
Is the correct answer.I personally find the advantage to having a car that will do 174mph is that overtaking becomes a delight. Even when you come up behind a queue of cars all sitting behind a slow vehicle because their drivers are all convinced they don't have enough power to make it past, you just drop it a cog or two and obliterate a line of 5-10 cars in a few seconds, leaving a queue of people sitting in cars full of boiling piss. It truly is a great feeling.
Better still when when I had bikes. A litre bike would make mincemeat out of the longest traffic queue that was stuck behind bus/tractor/truck/caravan.
As for morons like the OP described, well if you think they have just booted it to stop you passing, you simply floor it further and watch them fall well behind. Incredibly satisfying.
llewop said:
A507 Stotfold bypass is another one - see below. I don't think I have ever been along it without someone using the invisible centre lane....
Just to give another view, I've tried to imagine it from the perspective of the person being overtaken...
It is a bank holiday. You are stuck on a NSL road at 50 with an unending line of cars in front of you. And very few overtaking opportunities. You know that getting past the person in front is futile because there are a 100 cars in front of him. You grind your teeth and tell yourself you should relax and be sensible and just stay in line as overtaking will not help. What is worse is that you have a reasonably powerful car and if traffic were lighter you could get past and make progress. On bloody hell, just as you have sort of reconciled yourself to your fate the oik in a 1 litre Toyota that has been sitting on your bumper for the last 10 miles is trying to get past you! Doesn't he realise how futile that move is. Out of frustration and pent up anger you will show him that he can't get past......
The above is not a defence of a stupid manoeuvre by the person the OP tried to pass. He should have left himself be overtaken. But I can see how easy it would be to react that way.
It is a bank holiday. You are stuck on a NSL road at 50 with an unending line of cars in front of you. And very few overtaking opportunities. You know that getting past the person in front is futile because there are a 100 cars in front of him. You grind your teeth and tell yourself you should relax and be sensible and just stay in line as overtaking will not help. What is worse is that you have a reasonably powerful car and if traffic were lighter you could get past and make progress. On bloody hell, just as you have sort of reconciled yourself to your fate the oik in a 1 litre Toyota that has been sitting on your bumper for the last 10 miles is trying to get past you! Doesn't he realise how futile that move is. Out of frustration and pent up anger you will show him that he can't get past......
The above is not a defence of a stupid manoeuvre by the person the OP tried to pass. He should have left himself be overtaken. But I can see how easy it would be to react that way.
Esceptico said:
Just to give another view, I've tried to imagine it from the perspective of the person being overtaken...
It is a bank holiday. You are stuck on a NSL road at 50 with an unending line of cars in front of you. And very few overtaking opportunities. You know that getting past the person in front is futile because there are a 100 cars in front of him. You grind your teeth and tell yourself you should relax and be sensible and just stay in line as overtaking will not help. What is worse is that you have a reasonably powerful car and if traffic were lighter you could get past and make progress. On bloody hell, just as you have sort of reconciled yourself to your fate the oik in a 1 litre Toyota that has been sitting on your bumper for the last 10 miles is trying to get past you! Doesn't he realise how futile that move is. Out of frustration and pent up anger you will show him that he can't get past......
The above is not a defence of a stupid manoeuvre by the person the OP tried to pass. He should have left himself be overtaken. But I can see how easy it would be to react that way.
Erm - you don't know there was no progress to be made by mr 1l.It is a bank holiday. You are stuck on a NSL road at 50 with an unending line of cars in front of you. And very few overtaking opportunities. You know that getting past the person in front is futile because there are a 100 cars in front of him. You grind your teeth and tell yourself you should relax and be sensible and just stay in line as overtaking will not help. What is worse is that you have a reasonably powerful car and if traffic were lighter you could get past and make progress. On bloody hell, just as you have sort of reconciled yourself to your fate the oik in a 1 litre Toyota that has been sitting on your bumper for the last 10 miles is trying to get past you! Doesn't he realise how futile that move is. Out of frustration and pent up anger you will show him that he can't get past......
The above is not a defence of a stupid manoeuvre by the person the OP tried to pass. He should have left himself be overtaken. But I can see how easy it would be to react that way.
johnwilliams77 said:
It doesn't explore the mindset if there is a quiet road ahead of mr 1l.
I wouldn't have bothered attempting the overtake if there was a long queue ahead. There was an A class Merc in front of wker in Toyota, & a few cars in the distance. Nice stretch of road where you can (normally...) pick off cars at this point as very wide bypass. I guess I'm too used to leaving people in my motorcycle wake....
IIInteresting comments on this thread, though some of them seem a tad harsh/aggressive... I guess nothing short of trading her indoor's Hyundai for a Caterham Superlight will satisfy you lot!
johnwilliams77 said:
It doesn't explore the mindset if there is a quiet road ahead of mr 1l.
In these types of situation there is usually three viewpoints: the OP's, the other parties actively involved and the impartial view of a theoretical observer who could see it all but wasn't caught up. On here we get the OP's view, which may or may not accurately describe what happened. The passage above was hypothetical but based on experience myself of being stuck in an unending queue but with an aggressive driver behind. Just recently was in rush hour traffic, busy road, I was behind a bus and the person behind me overtook me on a bend....and then has to sit behind the bus (which had traffic in front of it) for a couple of miles until he could turn right. Even then he tried to jump a queue to get into the filter lane turning right and almost hit someone.
Most pointless overtake was done to me by a woman in her Fiesta. I was on my litre Superbike. 30 mph limit but with 60 ahead. I was sitting at about 33 (indicated) waiting for the NSL sign. About 100 yards from the sign Mrs Fiesta overtakes me and roars away at 40 mph. It was a long, straight clear road so as soon as she has completed her overtake (we were now in the NSL) I popped past her and disappeared at 60.
Esceptico said:
Most pointless overtake was done to me by a woman in her Fiesta. I was on my litre Superbike. 30 mph limit but with 60 ahead. I was sitting at about 33 (indicated) waiting for the NSL sign. About 100 yards from the sign Mrs Fiesta overtakes me and roars away at 40 mph. It was a long, straight clear road so as soon as she has completed her overtake (we were now in the NSL) I popped past her and disappeared at 60.
CSBjohnwilliams77 said:
Esceptico said:
Most pointless overtake was done to me by a woman in her Fiesta. I was on my litre Superbike. 30 mph limit but with 60 ahead. I was sitting at about 33 (indicated) waiting for the NSL sign. About 100 yards from the sign Mrs Fiesta overtakes me and roars away at 40 mph. It was a long, straight clear road so as soon as she has completed her overtake (we were now in the NSL) I popped past her and disappeared at 60.
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