3 figure speeding d*ckhead

[V8GEE]

A so called friend of mine has been caught by a camera van doing 3 figures. Ive heard through friends that he is also trying to get away with it as the camera caught the back of his car and he is trying to say that other people may of been driving his car at the time.ive been told he has given my name and address to the police saying i could be one of the drivers. I cant believe anyone would do this and im so angry and annoyed that someone could do this. What can i expect from this. Other than i will be losing a friend due to this stupid lad.

[TooMany2cvs]

V8GEE said:

A so called friend of mine has been caught by a camera van doing 3 figures. Ive heard through friends that he is also trying to get away with it as the camera caught the back of his car and he is trying to say that other people may of been driving his car at the time.ive been told he has given my name and address to the police saying i could be one of the drivers. I cant believe anyone would do this and im so angry and annoyed that someone could do this. What can i expect from this. Other than i will be losing a friend due to this stupid lad.

You'll get a NIP requesting you to name the driver or admit it was you.

You reply saying it wasn't you, but you believe it was him. End of.

[Biker 1]

I guess you know who your 'friends' are, so name him as driver on NIP. Perhaps you will see him in court - perverting the course of justice is frowned upon, I believe.

[V8GEE]

That i shall do indeed.. what an idiot

[agtlaw]

Biker 1 said:

I guess you know who your 'friends' are, so name him as driver on NIP.

Unless you know that he was definitely the driver then that would be inappropriate.

The better option would be to reply in these terms - "I am not the Registered Keeper of this vehicle. I was not driving it at the time and date mentioned. I do not know who was driving."

[anonymous-user]

If he thinks he can do something 'half-arsed' like name various people whom he claims may have been driving to try and avoid a penalty, he's probably in for a surprise.

You would be wise to consider agt's advice as he's an expert in this area of law.

[JonV8V]

Have you ever driven his car? Are you insured to drive it? If no to both those questions and he names you as a potential driver I'd hang him out to dry as it's hard to see how he might have been mistaken.

You may recall the MP who got his wife to takes points, both ended up in prison.

[LeoSayer]

If it was my 'friend' I'd be considering how I could return the favour by giving his name and address out to something embarrassing.

[BlueHave]

This calls for another tonne of manure dumped in your so called friends driveway.

[Jasandjules]

Biker 1 said:

I guess you know who your 'friends' are, so name him as driver on NIP. Perhaps you will see him in court - perverting the course of justice is frowned upon, I believe.

No please do not name him as driver unless you are 100% certain he was driving.

You simply reply stating you were not driving and you do not know who was.

[drf765]

agtlaw said:

Biker 1 said:

I guess you know who your 'friends' are, so name him as driver on NIP.

Unless you know that he was definitely the driver then that would be inappropriate.

The better option would be to reply in these terms - "I am not the Registered Keeper of this vehicle. I was not driving it at the time and date mentioned. I do not know who was driving."

Your advice started off well then concluded by suggesting he adds in a lie at the end.

Is that wise?

[anonymous-user]

fine/ban to perverting the course of jusice, good luck to your 'friend'.

[SS2.]

As a person other than keeper, the OP would have a statutory obligation to provide any information which was in his power to give and which may lead to identification of the driver.

[Tango13]

drf765 said:

agtlaw said:

Biker 1 said:

I guess you know who your 'friends' are, so name him as driver on NIP.

Unless you know that he was definitely the driver then that would be inappropriate.

The better option would be to reply in these terms - "I am not the Registered Keeper of this vehicle. I was not driving it at the time and date mentioned. I do not know who was driving."

Your advice started off well then concluded by suggesting he adds in a lie at the end.

Is that wise?

If the OP was not in the car at the time of the alleged offence then they are correct to say that they do not know who was driving.

The OP may think their dhead mate was driving but they don't know their dhead mate was driving hence the correct advice from agtlaw

[drf765]

Tango13 said:

drf765 said:

agtlaw said:

Biker 1 said:

I guess you know who your 'friends' are, so name him as driver on NIP.

Unless you know that he was definitely the driver then that would be inappropriate.

The better option would be to reply in these terms - "I am not the Registered Keeper of this vehicle. I was not driving it at the time and date mentioned. I do not know who was driving."

Your advice started off well then concluded by suggesting he adds in a lie at the end.

Is that wise?

If the OP was not in the car at the time of the alleged offence then they are correct to say that they do not know who was driving.

The OP may think their dhead mate was driving but they don't know their dhead mate was driving hence the correct advice from agtlaw

I don't think that you are correct.

S172 Road Traffic Act
...
(2)Where the driver of a vehicle is alleged to be guilty of an offence to which this section applies—

(a)the person keeping the vehicle shall give such information as to the identity of the driver as he may be required to give by or on behalf of a chief officer of police, and

(b)any other person shall if required as stated above give any information which it is in his power to give and may lead to identification of the driver.

The OP has given information here:

V8GEE said:

A so called friend of mine has been caught by a camera van doing 3 figures. Ive heard through friends that he is also trying to get away with it as the camera caught the back of his car and he is trying to say that other people may of been driving his car at the time.ive been told he has given my name and address to the police saying i could be one of the drivers. I cant believe anyone would do this and im so angry and annoyed that someone could do this. What can i expect from this. Other than i will be losing a friend due to this stupid lad.

that it is in his power to give. Now it is required of him to give that information. To say "I do not know who was driving." is simply a lie and certainly does not fulfil the requirement on the OP.

The advice is to withold information and it deliberately flouts the law. Your interpretation is stretching it to say the least.

[agtlaw]

I am, of course, assuming that OP was not in the car at the time of the offence and therefore does not have certain knowledge of the identity of the driver.

As for what OP is aware of, you might want to research the following word - hearsay.

[Vaud]

La Liga said:

If he thinks he can do something 'half-arsed' like name various people whom he claims may have been driving to try and avoid a penalty, he's probably in for a surprise.

You would be wise to consider agt's advice as he's an expert in this area of law.

OP. Click on agtlaw's profile. Judge his experience to give advice in this area. Act accordingly.

[V8GEE]

Spoke to said person tonight to see what the hell he was thinking. Hes said he was driving and been flashed at 119mph. Someone told him unless they can prove whos driving nothing can be done. My name along with a few others has been used. Sooooo annoyed about this. I will be saying exactly whos driving when/if i recieve anything. Been months since i seen him..! Lets wait and see

[Vaud]

You aren't following advice well.

You weren't there. You don't know who was driving. Declare as such.

[anonymous-user]

V8GEE said:

Someone told him unless they can prove whos driving nothing can be done.

Sounds like pub lawyer advice to me. Acting on it is often expensive. Make sure you resurrect the thread once it's all sorted.

You are free to tell the authorities (whichever Road Safety Partnership or whatever they're called now) what he's doing.