Greedy Police

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Derek Smith

45,661 posts

248 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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MarshPhantom said:
Stats show Greater London has the safest drivers in the country, we now have a huge amount of camera enforced 20mph zones springing uo everywhere.

Go figure.
I've recently driven along the M25 when there were speed restrictions due to weight of traffic and, on the return in lighter traffic, a broken down vehicle in the inside lane. Both time the traffic flowed smoothing, although at a speed lower than the national speed limit.

There was no sudden braking, no cars swerving into other lanes when surprised by stationary traffic. In fact, most, although not all, vehicles were within 10mph of the posted limit due to the fact that it was difficult to exceed it.

My wife, a non driver, noticed as well. I've become a supporter of reduced limits on motorways enforced by speed cameras.

I would put the lack of accidents down to better enforcement of all limits.




HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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drf765 said:
Not for a long time they haven't.
Fair enough. Still the Police don't take any money from speeding fines.

Druid

1,312 posts

181 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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HantsRat said:
You do realize that no money from speeding fines go to the local police force or the council don't you? They simply just claim back their operating costs. So no this money doesn't go towards the xmas party or a new car.
The cost of the Speed Awareness course however...

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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You're both wrong.

aikmanmosquito said:
but clearly our lovely police force are either needing to save up for one heck of a Christmas party this year, or need a new panda car!!!! Well seeing where their priorities lie!!
aikmanmosquito said:
always smart A's on this site!! No I'm not concerned I got caught!! what I'm trying to say is, living in this town there are far more serious problems the police could be dealing with other than fleecing motorists!!!!!!!!!
drf765 said:
3) It costs the police money to put the vans there and operate them. The fines are not collected by the police. So why would they be fleecing motorists?
http://www.safetycameras.gov.scot/about/

Safety Camera site said:
Although we operate within Police Scotland, funding for Safety Cameras Scotland comes from the Scottish Government, through the Scottish Safety Camera Programme. This grant enables us to deliver safety camera operations without cost to any other organisation. The purpose of safety cameras is to make our roads safer and deter speeding or red-light running - there is no link between the number of offenders paying fines and the funding of safety cameras. All fines resulting from offences detected by safety cameras are paid to the Scottish Court Service and returned to HM Treasury.
Druid said:
The cost of the Speed Awareness course however.
No SACs in Scotland.

Druid

1,312 posts

181 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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La Liga said:
No SACs in Scotland.
Or in Timbuktu I believe, perhaps I shouldn't generalise.


anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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I was just focused on the Scottish aspect from the OP. You are right where SACs do exist, I believe.

imagineifyeswill

1,226 posts

166 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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I have two sons both Police Officers in Police Scotland, the Inverness based one tells me that the within the Road Policing Unit every car is expected to hand out fines totalling £600 every shift. Once theyve reached this target they can go and dissapear to a dark corner for a snooze for the rest of the shift.

BlueHave

4,651 posts

108 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Christmas is coming and the plod shagfest ( I mean Xmas party ) doesn't pay for itself.

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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imagineifyeswill said:
I have two sons both Police Officers in Police Scotland, the Inverness based one tells me that the within the Road Policing Unit every car is expected to hand out fines totalling £600 every shift. Once theyve reached this target they can go and dissapear to a dark corner for a snooze for the rest of the shift.
You could do that on foot in 30mins.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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BlueHave said:
Christmas is coming and the plod shagfest ( I mean Xmas party ) doesn't pay for itself.
Please can you let me know the location of this 'shagfest'. I appear to have never been invited wink

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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MarshPhantom said:
Danattheopticians said:
MarshPhantom said:
Ki3r said:
Just think, if no one sped, there wouldn't be any need for them would there?
If no one sped they'd lower the speed limit.
Would they? If they did that would prove it money before safety.

If we lived in a fantasy world where, common sense prevailed and no body felt a need for speed, and speeds on roads were advisory rather than enforced, and driving too fast for certain surrounding conditions was punishable not by doing 36 in a 30 kind of way but a "collision/damage/injury/death caused by driving excessively above the recommended speed" kind of way (I know this can never happen, or is at least very unlikely) but most good folk would probably drive at speeds very similar to what the limits are now, with the exception IMOA of motorways where people would probable feel safe at higher speeds (70 does feel slow in modern cars with better brakes, stopping distances have halved since the Highway Code was written) 80 mph is pretty safe today in reality.
Stats show Greater London has the safest drivers in the country, we now have a huge amount of camera enforced 20mph zones springing uo everywhere.

Go figure.
Number.

hora

37,131 posts

211 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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aikmanmosquito said:
It is absolutely comforting to know that there cannot be any crime of any description within Kirkintilloch, Glasgow that our Police can waste resources by putting their money making vans on the Waterside Rd 3 times within one week!!! Normally these vans are once in a blue moon, but clearly our lovely police force are either needing to save up for one heck of a Christmas party this year, or need a new panda car!!!! Well seeing where their priorities lie!!
Can't do anything about anything being stolen, but can fleece money from motorisits!!

Cat

3,020 posts

269 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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imagineifyeswill said:
I have two sons both Police Officers in Police Scotland, the Inverness based one tells me that the within the Road Policing Unit every car is expected to hand out fines totalling £600 every shift. Once theyve reached this target they can go and dissapear to a dark corner for a snooze for the rest of the shift.
It's a nice story but it's not true.

Cat

AGK

1,601 posts

155 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Is that Waterside Road that has three primary schools and one high school along it?

If so then some youth giving it big licks a Corsa hit my old man side on at one of the roundabouts along it writing his 4 month old motor off.

I think it's safe to say their presence is justified.


Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

154 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Cat said:
It's a nice story but it's not true.

Cat
Thanks for that,I was totally convinced.

jith

2,752 posts

215 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Cat said:
imagineifyeswill said:
I have two sons both Police Officers in Police Scotland, the Inverness based one tells me that the within the Road Policing Unit every car is expected to hand out fines totalling £600 every shift. Once theyve reached this target they can go and dissapear to a dark corner for a snooze for the rest of the shift.
It's a nice story but it's not true.

Cat
So you're saying that this poster who, unlike you, is not anonymous on here, is a liar; or his sons, both of whom are police officers, are liars? Who would have believed it, eh? Police officers lying!

J

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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La Liga said:
lease can you let me know the location of this 'shagfest'. I appear to have never been invited wink
I suggest you treat it as a personal rejection. wink

Cat

3,020 posts

269 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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jith said:
So you're saying that this poster who, unlike you, is not anonymous on here, is a liar; or his sons, both of whom are police officers, are liars? Who would have believed it, eh? Police officers lying!

J
Jith I am disappointed with you, it is plain to anyone with basic comprehension skills that at no point have I suggested that imagineifyeswill, or his son, is lying. I simply stated that the claim each road policing car is expected to hand out £600 in fines every shift is incorrect (there are no such targets).

I am sure you are not so unintelligent that you actually misunderstood what I wrote so I have to conclude you have deliberately chosen to misinterpret it to try and score a cheap point.

This is both disappointing but also surprising given you have previously posted this in reply to me

jith said:
I said it before but as of now, you don't exist as far as I'm concerned. If you respond to any of my posts from now on I'll report it to the mods.
On a positive note I am glad you once more accept I exist. I will sleep more soundly as a result. smile

Cat

Greendubber

13,209 posts

203 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Cat said:
jith said:
So you're saying that this poster who, unlike you, is not anonymous on here, is a liar; or his sons, both of whom are police officers, are liars? Who would have believed it, eh? Police officers lying!

J
Jith I am disappointed with you, it is plain to anyone with basic comprehension skills that at no point have I suggested that imagineifyeswill, or his son, is lying. I simply stated that the claim each road policing car is expected to hand out £600 in fines every shift is incorrect (there are no such targets).

I am sure you are not so unintelligent that you actually misunderstood what I wrote so I have to conclude you have deliberately chosen to misinterpret it to try and score a cheap point.

This is both disappointing but also surprising given you have previously posted this in reply to me

jith said:
I said it before but as of now, you don't exist as far as I'm concerned. If you respond to any of my posts from now on I'll report it to the mods.
On a positive note I am glad you once more accept I exist. I will sleep more soundly as a result. smile

Cat
hehe

Drumroll

3,756 posts

120 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Sorry OP don't see what your complaining about, unlike speed cameras police in cars can at least look at other offences. (No road fund, insurance, stolen vehicles, wanted etc etc)