Speeding on the A303

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DaveOrange

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882 posts

209 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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A colleague (yes really) has just been zapped by a roadside speed gun. He has received the NIP which he has duly returned naming himself as the driver. His speed was been recorded at 100mph and this was on the DC stretch of the A303.

He will go to court and plead guilty and he knows he is in licence removal territory. He fully accepts that he was wrong and isn't going to make any weak excuses.

Advice and potential outcome most welcome. Comments about kittens/children and being more aware not necessary thanks.

TIA

agtlaw

6,702 posts

206 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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If he values his licence then it would be a mistake to attend court in person.

DaveOrange

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882 posts

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Monday 12th September 2016
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agtlaw said:
If he values his licence then it would be a mistake to attend court in person.
Hi Andrew, would you mind elaborating on this?

Jasandjules

69,868 posts

229 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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DaveOrange said:
Hi Andrew, would you mind elaborating on this?
He is suggesting your friend instructs a lawyer to speak on his behalf.

CoolCurly

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211 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Definately find a local solictor to stand up in court on your friends behalf - if anything to pleed for forgiveness and explain it was a moment of madness and that the use of the car is imperitive to his daily life both work and personal.

A good lawyer will get him a better chance of no ban/big fine or short ban/big fine.

Great road the 303 but seen alot more speed traps along it (while cruising past with my caravan hitched to the back of the SQ5).....


agtlaw

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Monday 12th September 2016
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Jasandjules said:
He is suggesting your friend instructs a lawyer to speak on his behalf.
He isn't. He's suggesting dealing with it by post. In which case, D won't be disqualified but if disqualification is considered, then the case will be adjourned and he will have to attend.

agtlaw

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Monday 12th September 2016
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CoolCurly said:
Definately find a local solictor to stand up in court on your friends behalf ...
Poor advice.

CoolCurly

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Monday 12th September 2016
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agtlaw said:
Poor advice.
Why?

Paying for a solicitor is always better that reprosenting yourself in court. And thats near on a fact.

agtlaw

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Monday 12th September 2016
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CoolCurly said:
Why?

Paying for a solicitor is always better that reprosenting yourself in court. And thats near on a fact.
Try reading the thread before posting nonsense.

CoolCurly

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211 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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agtlaw said:
Try reading the thread before posting nonsense.
Based on your profession I would state that you are in a better position to comment.

But no point being a total tt in your comments though - If it was me, Id be seeking PROFESSIONAL advice before hand.





Alex

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284 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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agtlaw said:
He isn't. He's suggesting dealing with it by post. In which case, D won't be disqualified but if disqualification is considered, then the case will be adjourned and he will have to attend.
Agreed, that will save at least one trip to court.

Does turning up to the first hearing affect the probability of a disqualification in your experience?


agtlaw

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206 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Alex said:
agtlaw said:
He isn't. He's suggesting dealing with it by post. In which case, D won't be disqualified but if disqualification is considered, then the case will be adjourned and he will have to attend.
Agreed, that will save at least one trip to court.

Does turning up to the first hearing affect the probability of a disqualification in your experience?
He won't be disqualified at the first hearing if he is not physically present. If proceedings are commenced by written charge and SJPN then there won't even be a hearing. Why give them the opportunity to ban? Only attend the first hearing if you are seeking a short ban, rather than penalty points. 100/70 is in the middle sentencing bracket. In my experience, much more likely to be dealt with in absence than adjourned.

Paul Dishman

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237 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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DaveOrange said:
A colleague (yes really) has just been zapped by a roadside speed gun. He has received the NIP which he has duly returned naming himself as the driver. His speed was been recorded at 100mph and this was on the DC stretch of the A303.
There's a lot of DC on the A303, could you reveal where he was done?

pim

2,344 posts

124 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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agtlaw knows the business I would listen to his advice.>smile

WJNB

2,637 posts

161 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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A warning to us all for this is a lovely tempting road with fabulous open views & ONCE was a joy to drive if you liked speed.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Was it near sparkford as Avon and Somerset are known to park in stupid places.

XslaneyX

1,334 posts

142 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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I bomb down this stretch to Amesbury quite a lot. I know of 4 usual spots that a van will park up at to catch motorists but never seen a Traffic cop standing out with a gun other then the past the brow of beacon hill going down to the Tidworth turn off or on the other side in the layby's

monthefish

20,441 posts

231 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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DaveOrange said:
A colleague (yes really) has just been zapped by a roadside speed gun. He has received the NIP which he has duly returned naming himself as the driver. His speed was been recorded at 100mph and this was on the DC stretch of the A303.

He will go to court and plead guilty and he knows he is in licence removal territory. He fully accepts that he was wrong and isn't going to make any weak excuses.

Advice and potential outcome most welcome. Comments about kittens/children and being more aware not necessary thanks.

TIA
Make sure it is pointed out to the court that the vehicle was fully insured, taxed, MOT'd and roadworthy at the time of the incident (assuming it was).

surveyor_101

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179 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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monthefish said:
Make sure it is pointed out to the court that the vehicle was fully insured, taxed, MOT'd and roadworthy at the time of the incident (assuming it was).
Why?

monthefish

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231 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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surveyor_101 said:
monthefish said:
Make sure it is pointed out to the court that the vehicle was fully insured, taxed, MOT'd and roadworthy at the time of the incident (assuming it was).
Why?
As it demonstrates compliance with road traffic laws, and indirectly says something about the defendants character. It also helps differentiate the defendant from other defendants the magistrates may have seen recently where none of the above could be said.

It also helps, to a small degree, play down the severity of the offence - the implication is that speeding = dangerous and therefore any factors that makes the alleged offence 'less dangerous' will help the case. For the same reason, the conditions at the time should be mentioned if appropriate. (100 mph in dry conditions can often be much, much safer than 71 mph in heavy rain/poor visibility.)