Parking on a grass verge next to zigzag lines
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Very good. One of the objectives of zigzag parking restrictions is to improve visibility for pedestrians about to use the crossing, obviously that applies in both directions. It's not all about not overtaking. Parking a bloody great van in the line of sight should be a ticketable offence.
What the police will tell you is that they are carrying out their lawful duties and thus are exempt from most road traffic laws.
That's what I got told during my seemingly endless 'tit for tat' dispute with the police a few years ago.
Do NOT complain about them. Seriously. They don't like people doing that and you will be hounded and hounded and followed arount and then have false mototing charges pressed against you.
That's what I got told during my seemingly endless 'tit for tat' dispute with the police a few years ago.
Do NOT complain about them. Seriously. They don't like people doing that and you will be hounded and hounded and followed arount and then have false mototing charges pressed against you.
zarjaz1991 said:
What the police will tell you is that they are carrying out their lawful duties and thus are exempt from most road traffic laws.
That's what I got told during my seemingly endless 'tit for tat' dispute with the police a few years ago.
Do NOT complain about them. Seriously. They don't like people doing that and you will be hounded and hounded and followed arount and then have false mototing charges pressed against you.
Ignoring zarjaz's paranoia for one second, OP - you can always complain via your councillor or MP if you wish to remain anonymous.That's what I got told during my seemingly endless 'tit for tat' dispute with the police a few years ago.
Do NOT complain about them. Seriously. They don't like people doing that and you will be hounded and hounded and followed arount and then have false mototing charges pressed against you.
She drove up the kerb.
Having been passed again I don't think the operator chose the spot, if your comming round the bend its as far as possible to the limit of vision so they can catch the maximum of speeders. It looks like plastic grasscrete has been put their especially so they don't get into mudding grass etc and get stuck.
Sad thing is its also very poor in relation to crossing. It seems to have little to do with setting an example to motorist of safety of pedestrians and all to do with best position to catch the most speeders.
Having been passed again I don't think the operator chose the spot, if your comming round the bend its as far as possible to the limit of vision so they can catch the maximum of speeders. It looks like plastic grasscrete has been put their especially so they don't get into mudding grass etc and get stuck.
Sad thing is its also very poor in relation to crossing. It seems to have little to do with setting an example to motorist of safety of pedestrians and all to do with best position to catch the most speeders.
Vaud said:
Ignoring zarjaz's paranoia for one second, OP - you can always complain via your councillor or MP if you wish to remain anonymous.
Yes you can do that if you like, though without names it won't go very far. That said, it won't go very far anyhow.I am not paranoid. My views relate to actual experiences of reporting the police for this type of 'minor' transgression. They didn't like it and came after me with all guns blazing. I successfully fought them off, at considerable expense, but now my trust and respect for the police is practically zero and unless I am legally or morally obliged to do so I will have no dealings with them.
From what i have read on other sites ( pepipoo incl) the DYL rule exists rrom boundary to boundary,eg wall/fence to wall/fence, so if those zig zags were DYL the plod is bang to rights.
because the rules on DYL refer to the highway
zigzags are subject to carriageway rules which cover kerb to kerb, so while the council could do you for parking, it isnt a 'highway code' offence
because the rules on DYL refer to the highway
zigzags are subject to carriageway rules which cover kerb to kerb, so while the council could do you for parking, it isnt a 'highway code' offence
I would get your partner/wife to drive towards the crossing using their dashcam, then you should step out from behind the van to cross the road narrowly avoiding being hit by your partner/wife who couldn't see you because of the positioning of the camera van.
I would then send the video of the incident to the DM.
Maybe.
I would then send the video of the incident to the DM.
Maybe.
surveyor_101 said:
Can you park on a verge next to a pedestrian crossing if your not parked in the road were the zigzag lines are if your not in the road but on the verge.
You would very tight to the pedestrian crossing.
What offence if any would you commit?
If it was a member of the public then you would commit an offence of parking within the prohibited area of the crossing denoted by the zig-zag lines.You would very tight to the pedestrian crossing.
What offence if any would you commit?
It is almost certain that the police have an exemption for that.
While it doesn't look the best place to park and there are alternatives the visibility of a pedestrian to the traffic and by a driver to a pedestrian who is waiting at the crossing is not hindered. The pedestrian is meant to cross and traffic stop when the lights dictate so there is little in the way of safety made worse by that parking.
It would however be better if the van wasn't there because it prevents someone who has it in for this sort of enforcement from whinging and moaning about it. Other than it being a P.R. gaffe for the police what's the issue?
Monkeylegend said:
I would get your partner/wife to drive towards the crossing using their dashcam, then you should step out from behind the van to cross the road narrowly avoiding being hit by your partner/wife who couldn't see you because of the positioning of the camera van.
I would then send the video of the incident to the DM.
Maybe.
...and perhaps ask why the pedestrian was crossing against the lights and perhaps why the driver was driving across the crossing against the lights. Neither of these are made worse by the van being parked there.I would then send the video of the incident to the DM.
Maybe.
Yes the D.M. that would be a paragon of best practice in motoring journalism and road safety.
drf765 said:
Monkeylegend said:
I would get your partner/wife to drive towards the crossing using their dashcam, then you should step out from behind the van to cross the road narrowly avoiding being hit by your partner/wife who couldn't see you because of the positioning of the camera van.
I would then send the video of the incident to the DM.
Maybe.
...and perhaps ask why the pedestrian was crossing against the lights and perhaps why the driver was driving across the crossing against the lights. Neither of these are made worse by the van being parked there.I would then send the video of the incident to the DM.
Maybe.
Yes the D.M. that would be a paragon of best practice in motoring journalism and road safety.
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