Police Officer Smashes Windscreen

Police Officer Smashes Windscreen

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frankenstein12

1,915 posts

96 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Rovinghawk said:
frankenstein12 said:
It does not matter if he is entitled to or not.
Yes it does.
No it really doesn't. People are far too convinced they have these god given entitlements and they are very wrong.

People are "entitled" to be treated fairly and within common sense. Common sense dictates that if you have nothing to hide from a police officer then you assist him with his enquiries so that he can carry on with his duties without delay to him or yourself instead of creating a situation where you both get delayed.

I am not in the police so not sure where the situation would be legally allowed to go where the officer was concerned as assumingly if he believed the car or person in the car was involved in some form of criminal offence I would think he cannot then allow them to leave without first identifying if that is the case.

I am personally beyond fed up with this entitlement victim status nonsense of our so called modern enlightened society of idiots.
The guy in this video is probably the same person who when told by a police officer not to jump off a cliff because he will die will jump off the cliff just to prove that he can do what he wants.


anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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frankenstein12 said:
Ahh you see there we go the word again "Entitled" . It does not matter if he is entitled to or not. Stupid idiot decided that rather than being polite and helpful he would create a situation that was unnecessary. The officer had a suspicion of wrongdoing and was not going to let someone he thought was a criminal or up to criminal deeds just leave

The officer did not stop him and ask him who he was because he was bored or because as someone else on here said because he was black.

The officer stopped him as the car was known to the police and the officer was doing his job.

I brought race into it because another poster did so earlier in the thread and the person involved in this video comes across as trying to make it about race which its not.

As we all know when police officers stop people who are known criminals or who are up to good they are always only too happy to admit who they are what they were doing and to sign a full letter of confession... Not.

Is it really any skin off someones nose if an officer says he believes you to be someone you are not or driving a vehicle you are not entitled to etc to prove to the officer they are wrong if you are not up to any crime?

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 2nd October 18:46


Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 2nd October 18:48
Oh dear.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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frankenstein12 said:
No it really doesn't. People are far too convinced they have these god given entitlements and they are very wrong.
You mean like the PC?

frankenstein12

1,915 posts

96 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Alpinestars said:
frankenstein12 said:
No it really doesn't. People are far too convinced they have these god given entitlements and they are very wrong.
You mean like the PC?
No. The police officer had a job to do and the entitled little idiot in the car decided to impede the police officer which in turn gave the officer further reason to believe he was right.

That is not to say it could and should have been handled better but likewise I dont think the officer should be gettting as much grief as he is for doing his job.

As I have said it is becoming a horribly common issue that people know their "rights" and feel utterly entitled beyond common sense and intelligence.

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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frankenstein12 said:
Alpinestars said:
frankenstein12 said:
No it really doesn't. People are far too convinced they have these god given entitlements and they are very wrong.
You mean like the PC?
No. The police officer had a job to do and the entitled little idiot in the car decided to impede the police officer which in turn gave the officer further reason to believe he was right.

That is not to say it could and should have been handled better but likewise I dont think the officer should be gettting as much grief as he is for doing his job.

As I have said it is becoming a horribly common issue that people know their "rights" and feel utterly entitled beyond common sense and intelligence.
Is there a problem with people knowing their rights? Should they be kept in the dark and let authority trample all over them?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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frankenstein12 said:
No. The police officer had a job to do and the entitled little idiot in the car decided to impede the police officer which in turn gave the officer further reason to believe he was right.

That is not to say it could and should have been handled better but likewise I dont think the officer should be gettting as much grief as he is for doing his job.

As I have said it is becoming a horribly common issue that people know their "rights" and feel utterly entitled beyond common sense and intelligence.
Should we return to the Middle Ages where the average Joe couldn't read so didn't know his rights?

Why do you think the PC has been put on restricted duties and is being investigated?

RobinOakapple

2,802 posts

112 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Alpinestars said:
It may be no skin off his nose but a PC asking someone to step out of the car carries the same weight as me asking you to get out of your car.
Only if you are a uniformed police officer.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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RobinOakapple said:
Only if you are a uniformed police officer.
Uninformed officer.

RobinOakapple

2,802 posts

112 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Alpinestars said:
RobinOakapple said:
Only if you are a uniformed police officer.
Uninformed officer.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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RobinOakapple said:
Alpinestars said:
RobinOakapple said:
Only if you are a uniformed police officer.
Uninformed officer.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
To avoid the risk of having them put in by a PC.

RobinOakapple

2,802 posts

112 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Alpinestars said:
RobinOakapple said:
Alpinestars said:
RobinOakapple said:
Only if you are a uniformed police officer.
Uninformed officer.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
To avoid the risk of having them put in by a PC.
Well, if it's the only way of getting them to comply with the lawful request to come out, then absolutely.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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RobinOakapple said:
Alpinestars said:
RobinOakapple said:
Alpinestars said:
RobinOakapple said:
Only if you are a uniformed police officer.
Uninformed officer.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
To avoid the risk of having them put in by a PC.
Well, if it's the only way of getting them to comply with the lawful request to come out, then absolutely.
About as lawful as you coming round to my glass house and asking me to step out.

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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RobinOakapple said:
Alpinestars said:
RobinOakapple said:
Alpinestars said:
RobinOakapple said:
Only if you are a uniformed police officer.
Uninformed officer.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
To avoid the risk of having them put in by a PC.
Well, if it's the only way of getting them to comply with the lawful request to come out, then absolutely.
Wasting your time.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Greendubber said:
Wasting your time.
Gov.uk has done a noddy guide just for you wink

https://www.gov.uk/stopped-by-police-while-driving...

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Alpinestars said:
Greendubber said:
Wasting your time.
Gov.uk has done a noddy guide just for you wink

https://www.gov.uk/stopped-by-police-while-driving...
Not needed here thanks.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Greendubber said:
Alpinestars said:
Greendubber said:
Wasting your time.
Gov.uk has done a noddy guide just for you wink

https://www.gov.uk/stopped-by-police-while-driving...
Not needed here thanks.
Too many long words?

Unreliable source?

Doesn't say what you want it to?

Go and put their windows through.

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Alpinestars said:
Greendubber said:
Alpinestars said:
Greendubber said:
Wasting your time.
Gov.uk has done a noddy guide just for you wink

https://www.gov.uk/stopped-by-police-while-driving...
Not needed here thanks.
Too many long words?

Unreliable source?

Doesn't say what you want it to?

Go and put their windows through.
Nope.

I am in awe of your inability to let any other posters have a different opinion to you, I dread to think of how much time you've spent constantly berating anyone who dare disagree with you on this thread.

Try going outside or something.



Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Greendubber said:
Nope.

I am in awe of your inability to let any other posters have a different opinion to you, I dread to think of how much time you've spent constantly berating anyone who dare disagree with you on this thread.

Try going outside or something.
Quite the contrary dear boy. I can prove my assertions unlike you. Now get on with what I pay you to do.

frankenstein12

1,915 posts

96 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Bigends said:
frankenstein12 said:
Alpinestars said:
frankenstein12 said:
No it really doesn't. People are far too convinced they have these god given entitlements and they are very wrong.
You mean like the PC?
No. The police officer had a job to do and the entitled little idiot in the car decided to impede the police officer which in turn gave the officer further reason to believe he was right.

That is not to say it could and should have been handled better but likewise I dont think the officer should be gettting as much grief as he is for doing his job.

As I have said it is becoming a horribly common issue that people know their "rights" and feel utterly entitled beyond common sense and intelligence.
Is there a problem with people knowing their rights? Should they be kept in the dark and let authority trample all over them?
No but there is a difference between knowing your rights are being abused and being a belligerent arrogant cock for no reason.

The offier asked him to prove his id as he or the car he was in were known to the police for criminality. That is not some sort of groundbreaking world ending drama If he knew his so called rights he would also know that if he was not committing a crime he had nothing to fear in simply identifying himself.

frankenstein12

1,915 posts

96 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Alpinestars said:
frankenstein12 said:
No. The police officer had a job to do and the entitled little idiot in the car decided to impede the police officer which in turn gave the officer further reason to believe he was right.

That is not to say it could and should have been handled better but likewise I dont think the officer should be gettting as much grief as he is for doing his job.

As I have said it is becoming a horribly common issue that people know their "rights" and feel utterly entitled beyond common sense and intelligence.
Should we return to the Middle Ages where the average Joe couldn't read so didn't know his rights?

Why do you think the PC has been put on restricted duties and is being investigated?
Because the officer was trying to do his job and catch criminals and these days criminals have a "right" not to have to answer for their crimes. We simply cannot have police going around willy nilly doing their job and investigating possible crimes and arresting people.