Selling house after split.
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BlueHave said:
Someone should have retitled this thread 'Reason not to get married"
I guy I used to work used to tell his life story. He bought everything in his marriage, the house, the cars, the contents, everything other half was a 'housewife' even though they had no children. She was very much a kept woman ( how very 1970's)
Someone accused him of having an affair, allegations which then proved to be false. However by that point the wife had made up her mind and had moved on, she also wanted a quickie divorce.
Anyway two years on and after the divorce he walked away from the house he had paid for with absolutely nothing and was living in a 1 bed flat last time I heard.
The ex wife is now living in the house with her new partner and is expecting.
The moral of the story is don't marry anyone that is beneath you, no matter how nice her boobs are. I guy I used to work used to tell his life story. He bought everything in his marriage, the house, the cars, the contents, everything other half was a 'housewife' even though they had no children. She was very much a kept woman ( how very 1970's)
Someone accused him of having an affair, allegations which then proved to be false. However by that point the wife had made up her mind and had moved on, she also wanted a quickie divorce.
Anyway two years on and after the divorce he walked away from the house he had paid for with absolutely nothing and was living in a 1 bed flat last time I heard.
The ex wife is now living in the house with her new partner and is expecting.
Edited by BlueHave on Thursday 22 September 15:04
Edited by BlueHave on Thursday 22 September 15:05
mike various said:
In the case of a split if you haven't agreed the wording on the deeds and you are joint tennants in common then you have crapped out.
I tried taking that line with the ex and getting her to have a lesser share and she said No she wanted 50/50.
I went to see two solicitors at great cost and ended up being told that i could argue all i wanted, but if it went to court i'd lose due to the fact that wife earned less than i do and that we had been married. If you have children then you will be stuffed even more !!
Also consider that all the wife paid for in the monthly bills was the food, telephone and TV licence.
I paid for everything else and could prove it, it made no difference what so ever.
What makes it even harder was that i've been overpaying on the mortgage to reduce it and that means she gets even more money !!
All you can do is try and negotiate, but what you will find is that as a woman scorned she will want every last penny you have and there's nothing you can do about it.
It's a bitter pill to swallow as i was going to be mortgage free at xmas and i will now end up with a £100k mortgage and not many years left to pay it off. I'm in a worse situation than i was 10 years ago when we bought the house.
I will be extra careful next time and make sure that there is a pre nuptual dawn up.
Basically your stuffed.
If there is a next time then you want your head examined :-)I tried taking that line with the ex and getting her to have a lesser share and she said No she wanted 50/50.
I went to see two solicitors at great cost and ended up being told that i could argue all i wanted, but if it went to court i'd lose due to the fact that wife earned less than i do and that we had been married. If you have children then you will be stuffed even more !!
Also consider that all the wife paid for in the monthly bills was the food, telephone and TV licence.
I paid for everything else and could prove it, it made no difference what so ever.
What makes it even harder was that i've been overpaying on the mortgage to reduce it and that means she gets even more money !!
All you can do is try and negotiate, but what you will find is that as a woman scorned she will want every last penny you have and there's nothing you can do about it.
It's a bitter pill to swallow as i was going to be mortgage free at xmas and i will now end up with a £100k mortgage and not many years left to pay it off. I'm in a worse situation than i was 10 years ago when we bought the house.
I will be extra careful next time and make sure that there is a pre nuptual dawn up.
Basically your stuffed.
I'm happily divorced and I will not ever marry again.
Girlfriend and cohabit, yes. Jointly buy property or marry - ummm no. What's in it for me? Other than another attempted ass rape by a scorned woman, solicitors, barristers and a judge? What exactly would I get out of the arrangement? I can have everything from a girlfriend that I can a wife, and without signing a contract to give away half my stuff if we split.
BlueHave said:
Someone should have retitled this thread 'Reason not to get married"
I guy I used to work used to tell his life story. He bought everything in his marriage, the house, the cars, the contents, everything other half was a 'housewife' even though they had no children. She was very much a kept woman ( how very 1970's)
Someone accused him of having an affair, allegations which then proved to be false. However by that point the wife had made up her mind and had moved on, she also wanted a quickie divorce.
Anyway two years on and after the divorce he walked away from the house he had paid for with absolutely nothing and was living in a 1 bed flat last time I heard.
The ex wife is now living in the house with her new partner and is expecting.
Utter b
ks. If no kids, how did she get a 100/0 split of joint assets in her favour?
I guy I used to work used to tell his life story. He bought everything in his marriage, the house, the cars, the contents, everything other half was a 'housewife' even though they had no children. She was very much a kept woman ( how very 1970's)
Someone accused him of having an affair, allegations which then proved to be false. However by that point the wife had made up her mind and had moved on, she also wanted a quickie divorce.
Anyway two years on and after the divorce he walked away from the house he had paid for with absolutely nothing and was living in a 1 bed flat last time I heard.
The ex wife is now living in the house with her new partner and is expecting.
Utter b
ks. If no kids, how did she get a 100/0 split of joint assets in her favour?Edited by BlueHave on Thursday 22 September 15:04
Edited by BlueHave on Thursday 22 September 15:05
Christ, mines making noises for marriage, these kinds of threads really make to never ever want to do it.
I paid 100% deposit on the house, mortgage is in my name, we roughly equal living costs. The mortgage comes out of my account. She grumbles about wanting to be on the mortgage and do understand why to a degree.
Saying we never marry but just split, I would make sure she got something back for her contributions, id never want to see her walk away with nothing but at the same time it has been my astute attitude with money management that allowed us onto the property ladder in the first place.
Its pretty fking scary some of the stories that are read on PH!
I paid 100% deposit on the house, mortgage is in my name, we roughly equal living costs. The mortgage comes out of my account. She grumbles about wanting to be on the mortgage and do understand why to a degree.
Saying we never marry but just split, I would make sure she got something back for her contributions, id never want to see her walk away with nothing but at the same time it has been my astute attitude with money management that allowed us onto the property ladder in the first place.
Its pretty f
king scary some of the stories that are read on PH!TwigtheWonderkid said:
BlueHave said:
Someone should have retitled this thread 'Reason not to get married"
I guy I used to work used to tell his life story. He bought everything in his marriage, the house, the cars, the contents, everything other half was a 'housewife' even though they had no children. She was very much a kept woman ( how very 1970's)
Someone accused him of having an affair, allegations which then proved to be false. However by that point the wife had made up her mind and had moved on, she also wanted a quickie divorce.
Anyway two years on and after the divorce he walked away from the house he had paid for with absolutely nothing and was living in a 1 bed flat last time I heard.
The ex wife is now living in the house with her new partner and is expecting.
Utter bI guy I used to work used to tell his life story. He bought everything in his marriage, the house, the cars, the contents, everything other half was a 'housewife' even though they had no children. She was very much a kept woman ( how very 1970's)
Someone accused him of having an affair, allegations which then proved to be false. However by that point the wife had made up her mind and had moved on, she also wanted a quickie divorce.
Anyway two years on and after the divorce he walked away from the house he had paid for with absolutely nothing and was living in a 1 bed flat last time I heard.
The ex wife is now living in the house with her new partner and is expecting.
ks. If no kids, how did she get a 100/0 split of joint assets in her favour? Trabi601 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
BlueHave said:
Someone should have retitled this thread 'Reason not to get married"
I guy I used to work used to tell his life story. He bought everything in his marriage, the house, the cars, the contents, everything other half was a 'housewife' even though they had no children. She was very much a kept woman ( how very 1970's)
Someone accused him of having an affair, allegations which then proved to be false. However by that point the wife had made up her mind and had moved on, she also wanted a quickie divorce.
Anyway two years on and after the divorce he walked away from the house he had paid for with absolutely nothing and was living in a 1 bed flat last time I heard.
The ex wife is now living in the house with her new partner and is expecting.
Utter bI guy I used to work used to tell his life story. He bought everything in his marriage, the house, the cars, the contents, everything other half was a 'housewife' even though they had no children. She was very much a kept woman ( how very 1970's)
Someone accused him of having an affair, allegations which then proved to be false. However by that point the wife had made up her mind and had moved on, she also wanted a quickie divorce.
Anyway two years on and after the divorce he walked away from the house he had paid for with absolutely nothing and was living in a 1 bed flat last time I heard.
The ex wife is now living in the house with her new partner and is expecting.
ks. If no kids, how did she get a 100/0 split of joint assets in her favour? M3333 said:
Christ, mines making noises for marriage, these kinds of threads really make to never ever want to do it.
I paid 100% deposit on the house, mortgage is in my name, we roughly equal living costs. The mortgage comes out of my account. She grumbles about wanting to be on the mortgage and do understand why to a degree.
Saying we never marry but just split, I would make sure she got something back for her contributions, id never want to see her walk away with nothing but at the same time it has been my astute attitude with money management that allowed us onto the property ladder in the first place.
Its pretty fking scary some of the stories that are read on PH!
If you live together you are not going to escape a costly split just because you don't have a marriage licence. If she goes legal you won't be the one deciding what she gets.I paid 100% deposit on the house, mortgage is in my name, we roughly equal living costs. The mortgage comes out of my account. She grumbles about wanting to be on the mortgage and do understand why to a degree.
Saying we never marry but just split, I would make sure she got something back for her contributions, id never want to see her walk away with nothing but at the same time it has been my astute attitude with money management that allowed us onto the property ladder in the first place.
Its pretty f
king scary some of the stories that are read on PH!This is the only story I have heard of someone winning in a divorce.
LOcal bloke, his wife was shagging various blokes while he was working, she wanted to divorce him, come declaration of assets it turned out that her father had put x acres of development land in her name for some tax reason, said land was in the process of being sold for 120 houses to be built.
Her dad went postal, "it's not really hers, its only for tax reasons etc", anyway he ended up with a few £100k more than he expected
LOcal bloke, his wife was shagging various blokes while he was working, she wanted to divorce him, come declaration of assets it turned out that her father had put x acres of development land in her name for some tax reason, said land was in the process of being sold for 120 houses to be built.
Her dad went postal, "it's not really hers, its only for tax reasons etc", anyway he ended up with a few £100k more than he expected
Monkeylegend said:
If you live together you are not going to escape a costly split just because you don't have a marriage licence. If she goes legal you won't be the one deciding what she gets.
Tell us more because that's basically wrong unless the other person made contributions to the mortgage and upkeep of the property JonV8V said:
Monkeylegend said:
If you live together you are not going to escape a costly split just because you don't have a marriage licence. If she goes legal you won't be the one deciding what she gets.
Tell us more because that's basically wrong unless the other person made contributions to the mortgage and upkeep of the property If she goes legal I think his view is very optimistic and she will be entitled to a bit more than he thinks she is. Having said that we don't know the exact circumstances so I could well be wrong.
Monkeylegend said:
JonV8V said:
Monkeylegend said:
If you live together you are not going to escape a costly split just because you don't have a marriage licence. If she goes legal you won't be the one deciding what she gets.
Tell us more because that's basically wrong unless the other person made contributions to the mortgage and upkeep of the property If she goes legal I think his view is very optimistic and she will be entitled to a bit more than he thinks she is. Having said that we don't know the exact circumstances so I could well be wrong.
JonV8V said:
Monkeylegend said:
JonV8V said:
Monkeylegend said:
If you live together you are not going to escape a costly split just because you don't have a marriage licence. If she goes legal you won't be the one deciding what she gets.
Tell us more because that's basically wrong unless the other person made contributions to the mortgage and upkeep of the property If she goes legal I think his view is very optimistic and she will be entitled to a bit more than he thinks she is. Having said that we don't know the exact circumstances so I could well be wrong.
Monkeylegend said:
I bow to your superior knowledge
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/relationships/living-together-marriage-and-civil-partnership/living-together-and-marriage-legal-differences/Take a read. I cant recall all the OPs details but if it's his house, and even if she's been a kept woman, if there are no kids and they're not married she gets nothing unless she can show a material contribution. If he gives her any money it's a gift out the goodness of his heart. Harsh but true
JonV8V said:
Monkeylegend said:
I bow to your superior knowledge
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/relationships/living-together-marriage-and-civil-partnership/living-together-and-marriage-legal-differences/Take a read. I cant recall all the OPs details but if it's his house, and even if she's been a kept woman, if there are no kids and they're not married she gets nothing unless she can show a material contribution. If he gives her any money it's a gift out the goodness of his heart. Harsh but true
I suppose I read the post as one of self entitlement, ie she's contributed nothing, everything we have is all down to me, but I may reward her for being my partner. I just find it hard to believe that in a proper relationship both partners don't make a significant contribution, not necessarily financial, which would be recognised by the courts, but maybe people do live that way.
Thanks for the link by the way.
Monkeylegend said:
I wasn't being flippant, it clearly depends on the circumstances of each individual relationship. circumstances.
I suppose I read the post as one of self entitlement, ie she's contributed nothing, everything we have is all down to me, but I may reward her for being my partner. I just find it hard to believe that in a proper relationship both partners don't make a significant contribution, not necessarily financial, which would be recognised by the courts, but maybe people do live that way.
Thanks for the link by the way.
Thanks - no offence taken - I agree though, unless you're minted and pick up a trophy bird who doesn't work (yes , stereotype footballer) and when the looks go, get kicked out without a bean. Even worse is old couples who never marry in that scenario - the house owner dies, no will, estranged wife gets the house. It's a murky world and much better to avoid the situation somehowI suppose I read the post as one of self entitlement, ie she's contributed nothing, everything we have is all down to me, but I may reward her for being my partner. I just find it hard to believe that in a proper relationship both partners don't make a significant contribution, not necessarily financial, which would be recognised by the courts, but maybe people do live that way.
Thanks for the link by the way.
Did you have a tenants in common agreement detailing the % split, if not it will be 50/50 split if she/he on morg. I was lucky got an ex-misses to sign one, even though she was dead against it at the time and in her words 'means we will split up at some point' and yes we did but it meant I wasn't shafted.
This time around I bought place morg in my sole name, during morg interview they asked me if anyone over 18 was going to live there so I told them my gf, I thought it was for insurance reasons didn't think anything of it. Fast forward 2 weeks later nice Sunday afternoon and she decides to open her post one of the letters was from morg company asking her to sign a form to say she had no legal right to the property being mortgaged, queue major argument, in the end she signed it.
This time around I bought place morg in my sole name, during morg interview they asked me if anyone over 18 was going to live there so I told them my gf, I thought it was for insurance reasons didn't think anything of it. Fast forward 2 weeks later nice Sunday afternoon and she decides to open her post one of the letters was from morg company asking her to sign a form to say she had no legal right to the property being mortgaged, queue major argument, in the end she signed it.
Edited by PostHeads123 on Monday 26th September 18:24
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